How should we run the country

[thinfourth2]

So AV has bit the dust and we will have FPTP for the rest of the century and our MPs will continue to use our money to buy our votes.

I think it sucks

What would you want as an electoral system to run the country.

I'm sure i have missed loads of options

[JonnyFive]

Boris for PM?

[thinfourth2]

JonnyFive said:

Boris for PM?

He would be better as a dictator

[Puggit]

We already have direct rule from Brussels. Where is the 'leave EU' option?

[JagLover]

One important option you have missed is the current system supplemented by an direct voting system.

Some matters need to be decided by a parliamentary system, such as the budget because it involves trading off many different issues.

There are many single issues that could easily be decided by popular vote.

Smoking in Pubs
Legalisation of cannabis
Legal status of Foxhunting
etc

[thinfourth2]

Puggit said:

We already have direct rule from Brussels. Where is the 'leave EU' option?

Then what?

Leaving europe is not relevant to this as once we have left europe we still have to run ourselves some way.

If you want to leave the EU then vote UKIP but you can't vote UKIP as that might let the wrong party in.

[thinfourth2]

JagLover said:

One important option you have missed is the current system supplemented by an direct voting system.

Some matters need to be decided by a parliamentary system, such as the budget because it involves trading off many different issues.

There are many single issues that could easily be decided by popular vote.

Smoking in Pubs
Legalisation of cannabis
Legal status of Foxhunting
etc

Thats closer to a direct democracy then the current system which is an X once every 5 years and then fk off you little peasants and give me your money for 5 years

[anonymous-user]

I picked three options, I would like to see a combination of an electronic direct democracy, randomly selected 'MPs' and and electro-anarchist commune thingy.

[Puggit]

Leaving Europe is very relevant. I voted against AV as it doesn't matter how I vote, Parliament just rubber stamps EU law. I see no reason to change how we elect MPs on the basis that they don't really run this country anyway.

For the record, my Tory MP had a 250 majority going in to 2010 and I still voted UKIP.

I'm sure you'll tell me that UKIP favour AV and it would give them a greater voice. As UKIP votes prevented the Tories gaining an outright majority, I feel FPTP suits my vote better.

[thinfourth2]

Puggit said:

For the record, my Tory MP had a 250 majority going in to 2010 and I still voted UKIP.

I'm sure you'll tell me that UKIP favour AV and it would give them a greater voice. As UKIP votes prevented the Tories gaining an outright majority, I feel FPTP suits my vote better.

If everyone had the courage and conviction to vote for who they want we would be better off as a nation and FPTP would be fine.

Sadly huge parts of the population votes for who they believe has the best change to defeat the party they dislike the most.

[GKP]

I'm not convinced we should leave the EU, but we should certainly be able to pick and choose which of their directives we decide to implement.


Like every other EU country already does.

[Mon Ami Mate]

When you say "workers", do you mean taxpayers?

If you subscribe to the view that there should be no taxation without representation, is it not logical to argue that there should be no representation without taxation?

[Mon Ami Mate]

When you say "workers", do you mean taxpayers?

If you subscribe to the view that there should be no taxation without representation, is it not logical to argue that there should be no representation without taxation?

[thinfourth2]

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[Asterix]

Whatever Switzerland has.

[thinfourth2]

Mon Ami Mate said:

When you say "workers", do you mean taxpayers?

If you subscribe to the view that there should be no taxation without representation, is it not logical to argue that there should be no representation without taxation?

Everyone payes tax of some form, just some get money from breeding

[cymtriks]

Three boxes ticked. Workers, Direct democracy and current system.

By "workers" I assume that means "people who pay in or have paid in for a minimum number of years but are currently retired or ill".

Direct democracy for important issues would be nice. Europe, , independence for UK regions, immigration, welfare reform, tax reform, spending cuts, funding for the NHS, etc. Three or four referendums a year. Politicians might actually be forced to take us seriously.

Proportional representation looks like a good idea until you see the reality. Countries that have it do not view their governments as being better, they aren't more engaged, what they vote for frequently gets negociated away in back room deals and the countries as a whole do not appear be any better off as a result of it.

[GKP]

Asterix said:

Whatever Switzerland has.

Nazi gold?

[thinfourth2]

GKP said:

Asterix said:

Whatever Switzerland has.

Nazi gold?

Agressive chocolate?

[Halb]

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