Conspiracy Theories for Cynics
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vixen1700 said:
Not sure about this site, but there are sites for everything I suppose.
Deaths in Europe being one of them.
http://www.euromomo.eu/slices/map_2017_2020.html



So excess deaths were far higher in 2017/18.
The world economy didn't grind to a halt with half the world's population in some form of lockdown then.
Something to think about.
Why do it for week 1 2017? And not week 12 like you did for 2020? Oh because if you do it for the same week (12) of 2017 then it doesn't go along with what youre trying to say..Deaths in Europe being one of them.
http://www.euromomo.eu/slices/map_2017_2020.html



So excess deaths were far higher in 2017/18.
The world economy didn't grind to a halt with half the world's population in some form of lockdown then.
Something to think about.

Woah
LHRFlightman said:
You think it's the commercial airlines that are spreading the chemtrails?
Bless.
Well of course. It'd be bloody obvious if "they" had military planes flying over us. Though I'm not quite sure where "they" fit in all this gear, bearing in mind that one of the conspiracy theorists "proved' that there was no room in airliners' wings for fuel, and that they were driven by compressed air. He didn't mention where the bloody massive compressed air tanks where.Bless.

And obviously every single airline pilot is in on the conspiracy, because they also help keep the flat earth "truth" from us.

Mobilecommute said:
Why do it for week 1 2017? And not week 12 like you did for 2020? Oh because if you do it for the same week (12) of 2017 then it doesn't go along with what youre trying to say..
Woah
Because there were more deaths in week 1 2017 than week 12 2020. Woah
No global shutdown in 2017.
Just clarifying the post.

grumbledoak said:
I think it likely that CoVID-19 will be used to push mandatory vaccination. Bill Gates' involvement here does not help me feel good about it.
Why do you use the word "push" as if it wasn't wanted. There's 2 ways out of this, natural heard immunity or a vaccine, the first one will take a long time, the 2nd isn't an option in the near future.Why have an issue with Bill Gates?
If I was wanting someone to help to try to sort it this lot out, it would be someone with limitless funds and looking for something interesting to do in his retirement with an interest in virology. For the world its win win (no pun intended).
Eagleye said:
Why do you use the word "push" as if it wasn't wanted. There's 2 ways out of this, natural heard immunity or a vaccine, the first one will take a long time, the 2nd isn't an option in the near future.
Why have an issue with Bill Gates?
If I was wanting someone to help to try to sort it this lot out, it would be someone with limitless funds and looking for something interesting to do in his retirement with an interest in virology. For the world its win win (no pun intended).
Wow. Top trolling. No-one can be this dumb.Why have an issue with Bill Gates?
If I was wanting someone to help to try to sort it this lot out, it would be someone with limitless funds and looking for something interesting to do in his retirement with an interest in virology. For the world its win win (no pun intended).
uncleluck said:
coldel said:
To be honest though, your window cleaner wont be paying more tax, he will be paying the correct amount of tax 
The one thing I love about all these global conspiracies are the monumental amount of people that need to be involved to make it happen, and that none ever say a word, to anyone, ever. It really isn't possible to have the millions of people it would take over the decades to make these things happen to keep quiet.
Sure, I can imagine the US government tapped a Mr Zuckerburg on the shoulder when Facebook started growing and had a chat with him - but the idea that it is now a platform to do some of the stuff the conspiracy theorists might think it is doing...
I work for a popular shopper loyalty company, we sent an email to someone, they started completing a survey but gave up halfway through but had put their phone number in by that point. Ten minutes later he got a cold call from a company completely unrelated to us, it's called coincidence. Anyway they put two and two together and decided in that ten minutes we had illegally harvested his info, sold it on the open market, and a company bought it and called them up. They were adamant thats whats happened despite our claims to the contrary
Well that’s easy as it happens every second of the day.
The one thing I love about all these global conspiracies are the monumental amount of people that need to be involved to make it happen, and that none ever say a word, to anyone, ever. It really isn't possible to have the millions of people it would take over the decades to make these things happen to keep quiet.
Sure, I can imagine the US government tapped a Mr Zuckerburg on the shoulder when Facebook started growing and had a chat with him - but the idea that it is now a platform to do some of the stuff the conspiracy theorists might think it is doing...
I work for a popular shopper loyalty company, we sent an email to someone, they started completing a survey but gave up halfway through but had put their phone number in by that point. Ten minutes later he got a cold call from a company completely unrelated to us, it's called coincidence. Anyway they put two and two together and decided in that ten minutes we had illegally harvested his info, sold it on the open market, and a company bought it and called them up. They were adamant thats whats happened despite our claims to the contrary

All people ever do is follow orders from above, and above them. Look at the police currently, it’s down to them following orders.
Look at the stuff that went on years ago with child grooming. Police just towed the line due to orders from above. Some have since spoke out confirming this.
My GF is a nurse and I often ask her about stuff they do and she just says she’s following orders and the higher up she gets it’s like she gets more ‘tow the line’
In reality it’s not as far fetched as “conspiracy theory” shouting people think.
As we’ve seen recently our government isn’t in control (like most people here would imagine). A few weeks ago Boris was telling us he was shaking hands and carrying on as normal, next thing he’s being told what to do and shutting the country down and talking about vaccines.
I’m very interested in actual death figures, if those pics posted above are correct it’s all a bit strange really isn’t it? I’ve heard this a no. of times about Italy having worse flu seasons etc.
The real figure that matters is healthy people who’ve died from covid 19, not sick people who die WITH Coronavirus!
Eagleye said:
Why do you use the word "push" as if it wasn't wanted. There's 2 ways out of this, natural heard immunity or a vaccine, the first one will take a long time, the 2nd isn't an option in the near future.
Why have an issue with Bill Gates?
If I was wanting someone to help to try to sort it this lot out, it would be someone with limitless funds and looking for something interesting to do in his retirement with an interest in virology. For the world its win win (no pun intended).
I am going to assume this is sarcasm. The alternatives are bewildering.Why have an issue with Bill Gates?
If I was wanting someone to help to try to sort it this lot out, it would be someone with limitless funds and looking for something interesting to do in his retirement with an interest in virology. For the world its win win (no pun intended).
DanL said:
’m with him - what’s the problem with:
Your problems are failure to read and ignorance.- Vaccination for this, once we have something that’s effective, and
- the involvement of Bill Gates, assuming he is involved (I’ve not looked it up)?
1. I said mandatory vaccination - this has long been a goal of the pharmaceutical companies. It would be far easier than having a product that sells on it's merits, or selling products to civil servants, and
2. Bill Gates made his billions from monopoly abuse, not competition. If they are anything like his software his vaccines will be low quality, untested, and compulsory.
Lemming Train said:
Eagleye said:
Why do you use the word "push" as if it wasn't wanted. There's 2 ways out of this, natural heard immunity or a vaccine, the first one will take a long time, the 2nd isn't an option in the near future.
Why have an issue with Bill Gates?
If I was wanting someone to help to try to sort it this lot out, it would be someone with limitless funds and looking for something interesting to do in his retirement with an interest in virology. For the world its win win (no pun intended).
Wow. Top trolling. No-one can be this dumb.Why have an issue with Bill Gates?
If I was wanting someone to help to try to sort it this lot out, it would be someone with limitless funds and looking for something interesting to do in his retirement with an interest in virology. For the world its win win (no pun intended).
Apologies if my post came across as a troll but would genuinely appreciate any inaccurate points I've made correcting.
Every day is a school day as far as I'm concerned.
grumbledoak said:
Eagleye said:
Why do you use the word "push" as if it wasn't wanted. There's 2 ways out of this, natural heard immunity or a vaccine, the first one will take a long time, the 2nd isn't an option in the near future.
Why have an issue with Bill Gates?
If I was wanting someone to help to try to sort it this lot out, it would be someone with limitless funds and looking for something interesting to do in his retirement with an interest in virology. For the world its win win (no pun intended).
I am going to assume this is sarcasm. The alternatives are bewildering.Why have an issue with Bill Gates?
If I was wanting someone to help to try to sort it this lot out, it would be someone with limitless funds and looking for something interesting to do in his retirement with an interest in virology. For the world its win win (no pun intended).
grumbledoak said:
DanL said:
’m with him - what’s the problem with:
Your problems are failure to read and ignorance.- Vaccination for this, once we have something that’s effective, and
- the involvement of Bill Gates, assuming he is involved (I’ve not looked it up)?
1. I said mandatory vaccination - this has long been a goal of the pharmaceutical companies. It would be far easier than having a product that sells on it's merits, or selling products to civil servants, and
2. Bill Gates made his billions from monopoly abuse, not competition. If they are anything like his software his vaccines will be low quality, untested, and compulsory.
With regards to the word mandatory - I read it but ignored it. If there was a safe vaccine, who wouldn't want it - other than crazy anti-vaccers of course so mandatory which sounds quite intimidating is irrelevant. Yes, pharmaceutical companies want to make easy money - so do most businesses.
And as for BG - I fail to see a correlation between his forays in OS development and the current situation. It's like saying Richard Branson shouldn't be involved in air travel because of his track record with shonky 70s musicians. That's assuming BG will have any involvement anyway.
grumbledoak said:
Your problems are failure to read and ignorance.
1. I said mandatory vaccination - this has long been a goal of the pharmaceutical companies. It would be far easier than having a product that sells on it's merits, or selling products to civil servants, and
2. Bill Gates made his billions from monopoly abuse, not competition. If they are anything like his software his vaccines will be low quality, untested, and compulsory.
Hmm, insults - an excellent way to get engagement and sway an opinion. If you’re a dick. 1. I said mandatory vaccination - this has long been a goal of the pharmaceutical companies. It would be far easier than having a product that sells on it's merits, or selling products to civil servants, and
2. Bill Gates made his billions from monopoly abuse, not competition. If they are anything like his software his vaccines will be low quality, untested, and compulsory.

Your problems are:
- you assume that the vaccine will come from Bill, rather than one of the many pharma companies or research organisations who are also doubtless working on it.
- that the vaccine will be mandatory, or even that people when offered a choice between having the vaccine or not having it will opt to not have it. The vaccine will sell itself - people want one, same as a cure for baldness would sell itself.
- that the QA threshold for software and medicinal products (particularly where there’s a good chance they may be administered to a large proportion of the population) are in any way comparable, and
- that I’m an idiot.

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