BBC Top Gear Thread 2021/2022
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A.J.M

8,387 posts

215 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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Caught half of it on Sunday and rewatched it all last night.

I really enjoyed it, I had big concerns for the new line up but I really like Freddy in ALOTO, PM may need to tone it down just a touch but there was chemistry between them which is good to build on.

CH is for now, best at doing the in depth car stuff, he may need some polish for presenting but he knows his stuff and it’s a fine line to tread between going full car bore with knowledge and giving nothing.

I’ll watch the rest of the series with hope.

SS2.

14,712 posts

267 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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We watched it last night. The pair of us really enjoyed it - it was much better than we'd expected.

Some laughs, stunning scenery, great camera work and the start of what appears to be some genuine chemistry between the trio.

Looking forward to next week, and that's something I've not said about TG for several years.

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Edited by SS2. on Tuesday 18th June 09:25

mikal83

5,340 posts

281 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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hairykrishna said:
I almost didn't bother with it. Paddy McGuiness and Freddy Flintoff? Really?

Turns out three people genuinely having a laugh actually makes for quite good TV though.
So its not scripted at all then, just all 100% "off the cuff". they dont go thru any scenarios at all, where they can make a joke etc??

otolith

68,853 posts

233 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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Red 4 said:
Well, a quick google of Mr McGuiness says he's actually from Farnworth - so that puts him even closer still to Manchester.

I reckon he spent his youth smashed out of his tree at The Hacienda and has a huge stash of Happy Mondays, Stone Roses and Oasis CDs.

Lancashire my arse biggrin
I grew up about as far out as Farnworth on the opposite side of the city and always considered myself a Lancashire lad.

Doofus

34,381 posts

202 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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One anachronistoc bigot on here says he doesn't like Northerners on his wireless, and the next thing we know, PH has turned into an "I'm Spartacus" competition.

Johnspex

5,249 posts

213 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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mikal83 said:
hairykrishna said:
I almost didn't bother with it. Paddy McGuiness and Freddy Flintoff? Really?

Turns out three people genuinely having a laugh actually makes for quite good TV though.
So its not scripted at all then, just all 100% "off the cuff". they dont go thru any scenarios at all, where they can make a joke etc??
F



How good do you think they are as actors?
You have to be good to laugh convincingly and to show surprise at something you've seen 2 or 3 times before in previous takes. I'm not sure I explained that very well.
Basically, it's easier to get a bloke to look surprised if he really is surprised than it is to get a non-actor to do it.
The bit in the quarry which included the lines about there's a grenade on your roof and machine guns trained on you was so un-funny it couldn't possibly have been scripted. It was FF ( I think) trying and failing to stretch the joke. So, no, definitely not all scripted.

Doofus

34,381 posts

202 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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mikal83 said:
So its not scripted at all then, just all 100% "off the cuff". they dont go thru any scenarios at all, where they can make a joke etc??
Why do people willfully refuse to understand that there's a difference between being told what to do and being told what to say?

Mr-B

5,014 posts

223 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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chrisironside said:
Can anyone tell me what the yellow car shown in look-ahead was?
Looked like a cross between a LaFerrari and a McLaren Senna, but think it's perhaps something a little more obscure.


It's a LaFerrari I believe.



Doofus

34,381 posts

202 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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Mr-B said:
chrisironside said:
Can anyone tell me what the yellow car shown in look-ahead was?
Looked like a cross between a LaFerrari and a McLaren Senna, but think it's perhaps something a little more obscure.


It's a LaFerrari I believe.
I thought it was a Dallara Stradale.

DS240

5,676 posts

247 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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Pleasantly surprised how much I enjoyed the first episode.

Having followed Harris throughout his motor journalism career, it is his persona on TG I can’t get used to though. His web based work was fantastic but I just can’t get the direction he’s been pushed in or decided to go.

FF is always a character, messing around on things like ‘league of their own’ on sky.

PM is shouty, but he has been since breaking through on ‘Phoenix Nights’. It was his name I least looked forward to when they announced this line up. But I think he was actually alright.

FF isn’t a studio presenter type but I think he will just be funny in a spontaneous way on the films.

So far so good I think.

The BBC keeping the TG format exactly the same since CHM has not helped anyone presenting who has followed after. A shake up would have helped the others bed in and not have direct comparison.

mikal83

5,340 posts

281 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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Doofus said:
mikal83 said:
So its not scripted at all then, just all 100% "off the cuff". they dont go thru any scenarios at all, where they can make a joke etc??
Why do people willfully refuse to understand that there's a difference between being told what to do and being told what to say?
depends on what the script says I guess!

Emeye

9,781 posts

252 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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Bit Meh for me - It felt too much like another rehash or some guys dicking around in cars, Last of the Summer Wine style, in another country - during the challenges, the cars seem to be the third consideration after "being funny" and the scenery. The culture of the country takes fourth place.

I learnt nothing about Ethiopia, apart from part of it looks great, or the cars - I guess that's the challenge of squeezing the journey into 45mins - they would be better making them 90mins specials and adding some substance.

I'll probably watch it again - but don't expect to leave satisfied.



thegreenhell

23,923 posts

248 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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mikal83 said:
Doofus said:
mikal83 said:
So its not scripted at all then, just all 100% "off the cuff". they dont go thru any scenarios at all, where they can make a joke etc??
Why do people willfully refuse to understand that there's a difference between being told what to do and being told what to say?
depends on what the script says I guess!
The way some people go on about it, the show is either scripted right down to when the presenters can take a breath, or it is unscripted and therefore 100% ad libbed and filmed in a single take. There is no middle ground on the internet.

V8covin

10,167 posts

222 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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The accents grate a little....and that's coming from a north midlander with a horrible whiney accent....had to rewind at 1 point to catch what Paddy said.
Some childish stuff,some boring stuff,some funny stuff... FF and his old escort quip got me laughing.
Not bad overall....looks like Paddy is running the show a la Clarkson

T-195

2,671 posts

90 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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thegreenhell said:
There is no middle ground on the internet.
Yes there is.



chrisironside

967 posts

191 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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Mr-B said:
chrisironside said:
Can anyone tell me what the yellow car shown in look-ahead was?
Looked like a cross between a LaFerrari and a McLaren Senna, but think it's perhaps something a little more obscure.


It's a LaFerrari I believe.
🤣🤣🤣 That wasn't the actual car shown.
Thanks to those that replied with Dallara Stradale. 👍🏻

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

202 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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DonkeyApple said:
The thing is that regional accents, even dialects in the extreme cases, are part of what makes this country. They add a cultural richness that simply doesn’t exist in many other countries and it is over such a short distance even with neighbouring towns/cities being apart.

The BBC has always employed individuals with regional accents for their shows, there is nothing new here. It is an organisation that exists to serve the whole of the UK and to also protect and promote culture.

In contrast, I hated the way that Clarkson, who was the recipient of a high quality education and family background, in the last decade had begun to speak like a toddler with his jeuvenile inflection on words such a ‘stupid’.

With regards to the current show it is Harris who offends me with his posture. Again the recipient of a good education and yet he is unable to sit up straight and has even begun to walk like an old lady.

All in last nights show was excellent. It’s the classic BBC pairing of public school with working class, North with South and between the two groups there is always amusing banter and piss taking that flows naturally.

None of them are studio presenters and that shows but is likely to improve but it is outside where you see the benefit of three blokes who clearly need far less scripting than anyone who has ever hosted TG and as an intelligent and educated individual I always found the need for scripting a bit low brow.

The show was good and the bits that were a little rough round the edges are all bits that will improve with time.

The fact that they will have to include subtitles on the worldwide syndication is an added bit of amusement.
It makes me laugh when Clarkson plays on his Doncaster roots. I grew up in the same village as him, a good 20+ years later mind, however was not the recipient of a Repton education.

It's hardly a story of being dragged up by his bootstraps that he sometimes likes to portray.

He brags about doing very little at school or atleast to being thick academically. We have loads of those types of guys and girls in Doncaster, the difference being the alumni from comprehensive schools end up on building sites or in call centres.

anonymous-user

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83 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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Just watched it on iplayer. I have to say it was a lot better than I expected. Looking forward to the rest of the series now.

Blown2CV

31,649 posts

232 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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don't get why much of the focus of this conversation is on regional accents. Have you never been out of your own county?

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

219 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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Well I have to say, I thought that was a very good episode of Top Gear. It seemed to be about people enjoying cars, which I think is a very good thing for a motoring show.

I am also so pleased that I didn't need to fast forward through the awful celebrity bit either. I very much hope this is a trend to continue.