First retail ‘name’ to pop off 2018
First retail ‘name’ to pop off 2018
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Yipper

5,964 posts

107 months

Sunday 31st December 2017
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Fastpedeller said:
What about Little Chef - or have they already gone?
They'll be gone by mid-2018. All being replaced with Greggs and Starbucks franchises.

snuffy

11,547 posts

301 months

Sunday 31st December 2017
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Jazzy Jag said:
I'm gonna suggest Travel Lodge.

Crap hotels, poor or non existent service, shoddy food arrangements, if any.

While Premier Inn is not the last word in accommodation, it's much better than Travel Lodge.
I stay at both for work, and given the choice I'd always go for Premier Inn. Travel Inn are a bit crap. They sold off 50 or so about 4 years ago and they nearly went pop.

snuffy

11,547 posts

301 months

Sunday 31st December 2017
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Fastpedeller said:
What about Little Chef - or have they already gone?
This is interesting (if you like that sort of thing). It's the rise and fall of Little Chefs:

https://motorwayservicesonline.co.uk/History:Littl...


Matt p

1,093 posts

225 months

Sunday 31st December 2017
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Just to counter the constant Maplin bashing. I’ve popped into three separate branches over the past few months while working in town. Each time I’ve been greeted by friendly enthusiastic staff who are willing to help and locate parts etc. I’ve left the stores with more or less what I needed to get me out of a spot. Some of the stock is real random shizzle but to a get a chiller back up and running its saved my bacon a few times.

If I can wait till next day I use RS components as it will be exactly what I need but you really do pay through the nose unfortunately.

Now Cromwell tools don’t even get me started on how inept those clowns are. Nothing in stock that is advertised on their website and always on back order. Both luton and Rochester let me down. Ended up getting what I needed from Amazon.

snuffy

11,547 posts

301 months

Sunday 31st December 2017
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Matt p said:
If I can wait till next day I use RS components as it will be exactly what I need but you really do pay through the nose unfortunately.
RS have always been expensive, but they if you want something, they will have it. I suppose you are paying a premium for them carrying such a huge amount of stock.


Jazzy Jag

3,548 posts

108 months

Sunday 31st December 2017
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snuffy said:
Jazzy Jag said:
I'm gonna suggest Travel Lodge.

Crap hotels, poor or non existent service, shoddy food arrangements, if any.

While Premier Inn is not the last word in accommodation, it's much better than Travel Lodge.
I stay at both for work, and given the choice I'd always go for Premier Inn. Travel Inn are a bit crap. They sold off 50 or so about 4 years ago and they nearly went pop.
Likewise.

The last time I had to stay in a Travel Lodge, the only catering was a BK and Subway next door.

WiFi in the rooms was £6 a night but if you bought a coke in BK you could have unlimited WiFi and free refills.




Thankyou4calling

10,803 posts

190 months

Sunday 31st December 2017
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I always thought that was the USP of Travelodge.

A bed for the night, a shower in the morning.

Minimal "Extras" such as food, toiletries, phone etc and the price reflected it.

I know many will say people want more now but there is definitely a huge market for a budget offering.

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

241 months

Sunday 31st December 2017
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king arthur said:
Yep. Greggs is another good shout. Who wants to eat that muck?
Need to watch thier prices tbh, they will kill the golden goose if not careful. Also like a lot of places they are reducing the quality of the product, the chicken in the chicken bake recently like chewing on a car tyre, its junk but it has to be of a certain quality.

RATATTAK

15,722 posts

206 months

Sunday 31st December 2017
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markcoznottz said:
king arthur said:
Yep. Greggs is another good shout. Who wants to eat that muck?
Need to watch thier prices tbh, they will kill the golden goose if not careful. Also like a lot of places they are reducing the quality of the product, the chicken in the chicken bake recently like chewing on a car tyre, its junk but it has to be of a certain quality.
I stopped using Greggs years ago when nothing was done after I found lumps of un-spread butter in my sandwich ... lazy bar stewards

Edited by RATATTAK on Sunday 31st December 15:18

anonymous-user

71 months

Sunday 31st December 2017
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I think greggs is o.k, not the est bakery but pretty tasty and will be around for a while.

king arthur

7,347 posts

278 months

Sunday 31st December 2017
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markcoznottz said:
Need to watch thier prices tbh, they will kill the golden goose if not careful. Also like a lot of places they are reducing the quality of the product, the chicken in the chicken bake recently like chewing on a car tyre, its junk but it has to be of a certain quality.
The post about Greggs was tongue in cheek, I wish I had bought shares before they rolled out the breakfast offerings.

tumble dryer

2,215 posts

144 months

Sunday 31st December 2017
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The Spruce goose said:
I think greggs is o.k, not the est bakery but pretty tasty and will be around for a while.

anonymous-user

71 months

Sunday 31st December 2017
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tumble dryer said:
You think those figures mean Greggs will be gone next year, then you are wrong, any analysis shows that.








jakesmith

9,471 posts

188 months

Sunday 31st December 2017
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Yipper said:
WH Smith is actually in very good shape. Growing and profitable.

Its travel shops, at airports and rail stations, are performing very well. And the high-street stores are holding steady (and profitable).

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-wh-smith-results...
Probably the only thing you’ve ever written that I agree with,m

Maplin and Office Outlet (formerly Staples) not looking so good despite the latter a purchase and restructuring presently in play with Hilco who did a decent job on HMV

Tryke3

1,609 posts

111 months

Sunday 31st December 2017
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markcoznottz said:
Need to watch thier prices tbh, they will kill the golden goose if not careful. Also like a lot of places they are reducing the quality of the product, the chicken in the chicken bake recently like chewing on a car tyre, its junk but it has to be of a certain quality.
Think a sausage roll costs about 5p - 15p to make, pastry in general has extremely good margins

Rich_W

12,548 posts

229 months

Sunday 31st December 2017
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Tryke3 said:
markcoznottz said:
Need to watch thier prices tbh, they will kill the golden goose if not careful. Also like a lot of places they are reducing the quality of the product, the chicken in the chicken bake recently like chewing on a car tyre, its junk but it has to be of a certain quality.
Think a sausage roll costs about 5p - 15p to make, pastry in general has extremely good margins
Of course.

But if Greggs start making their food less well to cut costs/laziness/whatever. People will walk away. Especially if there's a Tescos Express or Sainsburys local nearby.

Coughlans are normally not too far away from a Greggs. But they are never as busy. Wonder how they will fair long term

Gareth79

8,453 posts

263 months

Sunday 31st December 2017
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kylos27 said:
Claire's
Wimpy burger
The South African owners are refurbishing the UK stores, and opened a new one in Sittingbourne this month. Apparently the food/service is excellent, the Farnborough one still seems to be pretty busy despite a new McD opening nearby recently.

limpsfield

6,357 posts

270 months

Sunday 31st December 2017
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Greggs share price up 40% over the past year.


But I reckon they will go bust as I don’t like their tomato sauce. We should launch a PH hedge fund.

Have you seen that iPhone X? It’s st. They won’t be around in a year.

menousername

2,262 posts

159 months

Sunday 31st December 2017
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Enjoying the “main street” views much more than the shareprice comments. Both are equally valid though.

Most share prices are up and have been going up for a decade. As far as retail goes it is probably more surprise/relief that we have not had a brexit-driven recession (yet).

Our economy is heavily dependent upon retail and the consumer, who as well as having too much personal debt is already being squeezed by inflation and poor wage growth. Most of those earnings and shareprice growth could reverse quite quickly if consumer sentiment, and spending, heads South, which it might do next year. Does anybody believe it will expand rather than contract?

What people are seeing with their own eyes now may well feed into next years earnings reports. Who knows. But the anecdotal stuff is still interesting and insightful as to what is happening on the ground and locally


Robertj21a

18,009 posts

122 months

Sunday 31st December 2017
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menousername said:
Enjoying the “main street” views much more than the shareprice comments. Both are equally valid though.

Most share prices are up and have been going up for a decade. As far as retail goes it is probably more surprise/relief that we have not had a brexit-driven recession (yet).

Our economy is heavily dependent upon retail and the consumer, who as well as having too much personal debt is already being squeezed by inflation and poor wage growth. Most of those earnings and shareprice growth could reverse quite quickly if consumer sentiment, and spending, heads South, which it might do next year. Does anybody believe it will expand rather than contract?

What people are seeing with their own eyes now may well feed into next years earnings reports. Who knows. But the anecdotal stuff is still interesting and insightful as to what is happening on the ground and locally
Some earnings and shareprice growth may well improve next year, or at any time for that matter. It's going to be at least partly dependant on the specific business sector, management skills, takeovers etc. I doubt that Brexit will affect too much next year (or 2019.....)