F1 on Channel 4

F1 on Channel 4

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catfood12

1,501 posts

157 months

Sunday 18th July 2021
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The opening ten minutes with Tom Cruise and the three GT3s was the best Channel 4 (Whisper) production for years. The subtleties that the producers got in there... lines from Cruise about 'Not bad for a No.2 driver' and 'multi 21', and by the looks of things they gave him the PDK and the proper drivers the manuals. Obvs all a thinly disguised promo for the upcoming film, but entertaining nonetheless. Then their (the presenters') genuine chat about it, and that it was a 9 hour shoot!

I'm certainly not a Tom Cruise Fanboi, but for pure entertainment, that part of the show was mega! I might go and watch it again on catch up now...

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

239 months

Sunday 18th July 2021
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jsf said:
another howler from DC, saying Ferrari can use a higher engine mode to defend. laugh
He isn’t particularly technically savvy. Also uses ‘steering angle’ and ‘under rotation’ every second sentence.

CoolHands

20,714 posts

210 months

Sunday 18th July 2021
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A lot of negativity about weber but I still like home and think he’s pretty honest.

bristolbaron

5,251 posts

227 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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jsf said:
another howler from DC, saying Ferrari can use a higher engine mode to defend. laugh
When MV was digging himself out of the wall, DC said something along the lines of “and that’s what you want to see, Max Verstappen having a big crash” rather than anything about being okay laugh

anonymous-user

69 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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Really enjoyed seeing the race on ch4 shame there’s not more.

Zetec-S

6,450 posts

108 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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El stovey said:
Really enjoyed seeing the race on ch4 shame there’s not more.
Yep, it's taken a while for me to come round but I quite like the presenting team they have, I think the chemistry they have make up for some of the other shortfalls.

Leftfootwonder

1,262 posts

73 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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catfood12 said:
The opening ten minutes with Tom Cruise and the three GT3s was the best Channel 4 (Whisper) production for years. The subtleties that the producers got in there... lines from Cruise about 'Not bad for a No.2 driver' and 'multi 21', and by the looks of things they gave him the PDK and the proper drivers the manuals. Obvs all a thinly disguised promo for the upcoming film, but entertaining nonetheless. Then their (the presenters') genuine chat about it, and that it was a 9 hour shoot!

I'm certainly not a Tom Cruise Fanboi, but for pure entertainment, that part of the show was mega! I might go and watch it again on catch up now...
I'm not I would describe them as subtleties but I certainly enjoyed it. As others have said, the C4 presenting crew are head and shoulders above Sky but I do find Steve Jones a bit annoying.

rdjohn

6,708 posts

210 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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The thing that I like is that they set out to make it an entertaining show, rather than just covering a sporting event.

One minor criticism was that by sucking up to their ex employer both DC and Mark did not present a balanced viewpoint of the incident. Trying to force Lando into apportioning the blame was out of order.

The stewards decision is final and they have way more data to work with than the pundits but they then feed the Troll that results in racist messages in social media.

cgt2

7,247 posts

203 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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The CH4 guys have way more charisma and expertise. Aside from Karun and JB, there is no comparison.

The Cruise piece was fun but when he had that slightly maniacal look on his face I kept remembering this and other similar moments that got a lot of coverage a few years ago.
(Scroll to 8:40 rather than endure the whole thing)


Obviously there was no sofa in the vicinity for him to jump over.

https://youtu.be/UFBZ_uAbxS0

Wills2

26,026 posts

190 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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Yeah it certainly was the Max fan club from Coulthard and Webber but of course both ex RB, the F1 TV stuff with Will Buxton is much more balanced, looking forward to Palmers analysis on the incident.

Calling Max a legend of the sport was way over the top as well.




cgt2

7,247 posts

203 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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Anyone catch the funny moment in commentary when Webber said he hit DC's leg when the crash happened then DC deadpanned "That wasn't my leg" - comedy gold!

Leftfootwonder

1,262 posts

73 months

Monday 19th July 2021
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cgt2 said:
Anyone catch the funny moment in commentary when Webber said he hit DC's leg when the crash happened then DC deadpanned "That wasn't my leg" - comedy gold!
There's a definite bromance between DC, MW and SJ. Can get a bit awkward at times though. hehe

CABC

5,964 posts

116 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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rdjohn said:
One minor criticism was that by sucking up to their ex employer both DC and Mark did not present a balanced viewpoint of the incident. Trying to force Lando into apportioning the blame was out of order.
I agree. otherwise they're very balanced.
problem is not only does Grumpy Spice give a lot of air time to C4, they also regularly allow DC to drive the cars!
it's difficult, but they could step back rather than cross the line. Still, best coverage by far.

TechBod

81 posts

75 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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I was sooo relieved to see Billy monger wasn't on the C4 commentary team for this weekends F1 at Silverstone.

He is obviously is a bright lad and has great determination, but I'm afraid, for me, it ends there.

He ran into the back of a car, two other drivers managed to avoid; and they were much closer than him too, and as a result, he unfortunately loses both legs in the incident, but after a staggering recovery (honestly, absolutely no pun intended), C4 employs him as a F1 commentator? Really? Based on the fact he crashes an F4 car and is badly injured as a result? Please... monger failed big style, whilst competing in his early stages of F4, the lowest level of single seat non cart racing.

Apart from a few UK racing tracks, he has never raced at any of the F1 world diary circuits in competition, apart from maybe Silverstone and Brands Hatch, but he delivers a commentary, criticising the F1 drivers skills on the world circuit, when he has never raced at any of them...

I know he is a fighter, and I cannot fault his determination and fund raising work, but was so pleased to see that we didn't have to listen to his wittering's based upon nothing apart from pure conjecture, what others might have told him, or what he has read in a book.

Webber is my favourite closely followed by Coulthard, with Jones learning all the time and bouncing off the other two for a really entertaining program... This weekends coverage with Cruise was pure magic... and so entertaining... CH4s got a winning formula!!


This weekends full CH4 coverage was brilliant... And thats because 2/3 of the team had years of F1 racing behind them... and the other third has personality!



BBC: Now, for a good Top Gear line up, you could do a lot worse than try these three...

anonymous-user

69 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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Leftfootwonder said:
There's a definite bromance between DC, MW and SJ. Can get a bit awkward at times though. hehe
They were all over Tom cruise also. I think they actually fell in love with him.

It was a great segment and interview though.

Boom78

1,436 posts

63 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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TechBod said:
I was sooo relieved to see Billy monger wasn't on the C4 commentary team for this weekends F1 at Silverstone.

He is obviously is a bright lad and has great determination, but I'm afraid, for me, it ends there.

He ran into the back of a car, two other drivers managed to avoid; and they were much closer than him too, and as a result, he unfortunately loses both legs in the incident, but after a staggering recovery (honestly, absolutely no pun intended), C4 employs him as a F1 commentator? Really? Based on the fact he crashes an F4 car and is badly injured as a result? Please... monger failed big style, whilst competing in his early stages of F4, the lowest level of single seat non cart racing.

Apart from a few UK racing tracks, he has never raced at any of the F1 world diary circuits in competition, apart from maybe Silverstone and Brands Hatch, but he delivers a commentary, criticising the F1 drivers skills on the world circuit, when he has never raced at any of them...

I know he is a fighter, and I cannot fault his determination and fund raising work, but was so pleased to see that we didn't have to listen to his wittering's based upon nothing apart from pure conjecture, what others might have told him, or what he has read in a book.

Webber is my favourite closely followed by Coulthard, with Jones learning all the time and bouncing off the other two for a really entertaining program... This weekends coverage with Cruise was pure magic... and so entertaining... CH4s got a winning formula!!


This weekends full CH4 coverage was brilliant... And thats because 2/3 of the team had years of F1 racing behind them... and the other third has personality!



BBC: Now, for a good Top Gear line up, you could do a lot worse than try these three...
The poor lad suffered a terrible life changing accident through no fault of his own, a car ahead had broken down on the racing line and his view was blocked by a car in front, he had no idea it was there!!

Despite his lack of top flight experience he is very knowledgable of the tracks, drivers and tactics. Good on the lad for making something of himself.

Emeye

9,780 posts

238 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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TechBod said:
I was sooo relieved to see Billy monger wasn't on the C4 commentary team for this weekends F1 at Silverstone.

He is obviously is a bright lad and has great determination, but I'm afraid, for me, it ends there.

He ran into the back of a car, two other drivers managed to avoid; and they were much closer than him too, and as a result, he unfortunately loses both legs in the incident, but after a staggering recovery (honestly, absolutely no pun intended), C4 employs him as a F1 commentator? Really? Based on the fact he crashes an F4 car and is badly injured as a result? Please... monger failed big style, whilst competing in his early stages of F4, the lowest level of single seat non cart racing.

Apart from a few UK racing tracks, he has never raced at any of the F1 world diary circuits in competition, apart from maybe Silverstone and Brands Hatch, but he delivers a commentary, criticising the F1 drivers skills on the world circuit, when he has never raced at any of them...

I know he is a fighter, and I cannot fault his determination and fund raising work, but was so pleased to see that we didn't have to listen to his wittering's based upon nothing apart from pure conjecture, what others might have told him, or what he has read in a book.

Webber is my favourite closely followed by Coulthard, with Jones learning all the time and bouncing off the other two for a really entertaining program... This weekends coverage with Cruise was pure magic... and so entertaining... CH4s got a winning formula!!


This weekends full CH4 coverage was brilliant... And thats because 2/3 of the team had years of F1 racing behind them... and the other third has personality!



BBC: Now, for a good Top Gear line up, you could do a lot worse than try these three...
Bit harsh - he didn't see the car he hit as the other two were in the way, though the adulation he received seemed over the top considering we had soldiers returning from Afghanistan returning almost weekly with missing limbs, bks, half their face etc and no one seemed to blink an eyelid.

And to be fair, many pundits are uber-fans rather than motor racing veterans - Murray Walker didn't drive an F1 car.

Personally, I think C4 F1 coverage would be greatly improved if they got Paddy and Flintoff on the presenting team... wink

cgt2

7,247 posts

203 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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Emeye said:
Bit harsh - he didn't see the car he hit as the other two were in the way, though the adulation he received seemed over the top considering we had soldiers returning from Afghanistan returning almost weekly with missing limbs, bks, half their face etc and no one seemed to blink an eyelid.

And to be fair, many pundits are uber-fans rather than motor racing veterans - Murray Walker didn't drive an F1 car.

Personally, I think C4 F1 coverage would be greatly improved if they got Paddy and Flintoff on the presenting team... wink
Murray in fact did try a McLaren once, great footage if you can find it!

M1C

1,999 posts

126 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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Boom78 said:
TechBod said:
I was sooo relieved to see Billy monger wasn't on the C4 commentary team for this weekends F1 at Silverstone.

He is obviously is a bright lad and has great determination, but I'm afraid, for me, it ends there.

He ran into the back of a car, two other drivers managed to avoid; and they were much closer than him too, and as a result, he unfortunately loses both legs in the incident, but after a staggering recovery (honestly, absolutely no pun intended), C4 employs him as a F1 commentator? Really? Based on the fact he crashes an F4 car and is badly injured as a result? Please... monger failed big style, whilst competing in his early stages of F4, the lowest level of single seat non cart racing.

Apart from a few UK racing tracks, he has never raced at any of the F1 world diary circuits in competition, apart from maybe Silverstone and Brands Hatch, but he delivers a commentary, criticising the F1 drivers skills on the world circuit, when he has never raced at any of them...

I know he is a fighter, and I cannot fault his determination and fund raising work, but was so pleased to see that we didn't have to listen to his wittering's based upon nothing apart from pure conjecture, what others might have told him, or what he has read in a book.

Webber is my favourite closely followed by Coulthard, with Jones learning all the time and bouncing off the other two for a really entertaining program... This weekends coverage with Cruise was pure magic... and so entertaining... CH4s got a winning formula!!


This weekends full CH4 coverage was brilliant... And thats because 2/3 of the team had years of F1 racing behind them... and the other third has personality!



BBC: Now, for a good Top Gear line up, you could do a lot worse than try these three...
The poor lad suffered a terrible life changing accident through no fault of his own, a car ahead had broken down on the racing line and his view was blocked by a car in front, he had no idea it was there!!

Despite his lack of top flight experience he is very knowledgable of the tracks, drivers and tactics. Good on the lad for making something of himself.
Very good on him. He's brilliant! I think he's a great talent. All the BS above criticising him about having the accident - yes it was clearly intentional!? A horrendous crash that totally changed his life. What a moronic load of guff!

Yes, the link between what he drove and F1 is tenuous at best - but he's got given a chance at a time when who knew/knows what his future will be? He's mature beyond his years and comes across very well.

Anyway!

I like the C4 coverage, think Billy adds to it when he's on - and i find Steve Jones absolutely annoying as hell. Not funny. Clearly still doesn't know much about the subject, cringyn awkward. Leigh McKenzie a much better presenter! She should be on all the time! Just have David and Mark on there, they've done it before and managed great.


Porsche guy

3,465 posts

242 months

Tuesday 20th July 2021
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