Do NOT call me Miss!
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nikaiyo2 said:
InitialDave said:
Due to inheriting my father's middle name, my initials are DR, so I very occasionally get someone think I'm Dr Xxxx, e.g. where a format is all caps or something and its not very obvious. I don't take it personally, even though I'm an engineer, which is clearly better!
It would amuse me if I were Dr DR Xxxx though.
A number of my friends have doctorates, but they're not pretentious idiots, so I've never seen minor hiccups in titling cause a hissy fit.
I used to work with a guy in the MOD who's name was Richard Head, he was a serving Major at the time... (The Army still uses/used Dick for Richard) It would amuse me if I were Dr DR Xxxx though.
A number of my friends have doctorates, but they're not pretentious idiots, so I've never seen minor hiccups in titling cause a hissy fit.
I also used to work with a Tony Major, who was also a Major, this resulted in a number of predictable Moes Tavern type misunderstandings.
Back to the woman, it is rather fitting that no one has ever assumed her to be a Mrs isnt it...
http://www.warfare.today/tag/rob-sergeant/Puggit said:
nikaiyo2 said:
InitialDave said:
Due to inheriting my father's middle name, my initials are DR, so I very occasionally get someone think I'm Dr Xxxx, e.g. where a format is all caps or something and its not very obvious. I don't take it personally, even though I'm an engineer, which is clearly better!
It would amuse me if I were Dr DR Xxxx though.
A number of my friends have doctorates, but they're not pretentious idiots, so I've never seen minor hiccups in titling cause a hissy fit.
I used to work with a guy in the MOD who's name was Richard Head, he was a serving Major at the time... (The Army still uses/used Dick for Richard) It would amuse me if I were Dr DR Xxxx though.
A number of my friends have doctorates, but they're not pretentious idiots, so I've never seen minor hiccups in titling cause a hissy fit.
I also used to work with a Tony Major, who was also a Major, this resulted in a number of predictable Moes Tavern type misunderstandings.
Back to the woman, it is rather fitting that no one has ever assumed her to be a Mrs isnt it...
http://www.warfare.today/tag/rob-sergeant/Saleen836 said:
Oh dear, I know there are a lot of university grads on here so what do you think to this news story?
https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/academic-fuming-afte...
It popped up on my FB earlier and the comments were funny, someone posted "I didn't spend a few years and be left with a mountain of student debt to learn a trade, I would like to be now called Master Sparky!
Another commented saying if there had been an incident on the flight where an attendant asked if there was a doctor on board, would she have stuck her hand up and said me!?
What a tool (not the op, the 'Dr' numpty). https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/academic-fuming-afte...
It popped up on my FB earlier and the comments were funny, someone posted "I didn't spend a few years and be left with a mountain of student debt to learn a trade, I would like to be now called Master Sparky!
Another commented saying if there had been an incident on the flight where an attendant asked if there was a doctor on board, would she have stuck her hand up and said me!?
Didn't read the whole thread but without exception, all the medics that I know don't care to use their title at all. On the subject they seem to be pretty anonymous; 'I know that I'm a doc, so do people that I work with, for everyone else it's irrelevant'. And whatever you do, don't bring the subject up with surgeons. Funny bunch.
Breadvan72 said:
Outside the Anglosphere, use of titles is more common in non academic contexts. For example, in Germany and Italy, professionals such as engineers and lawyers tend to be addressed by titles.
In Germany, all male doctors are trichologists.Re the woman who thinks the airline assumed she was a man because she is a Dr - there was a woman with a misgendered ticket on my flight today, I don’t think they actually need any sexism to screw that one up.
I can't believe this topic is 10 pages in and no-one's linked to this yet . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vuW6tQ0218
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vuW6tQ0218
J4CKO said:
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Philosophy is cock all use as a degree/PHD a
... it says Barrister but I thought you kind of needed to do a law degree ?
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1. Google what PhD stands for. Not all PhDs are in philosophy. PhD is a medieval title that has stuck, and is used for many doctoral degrees, in many subjects. Philosophy is cock all use as a degree/PHD a
... it says Barrister but I thought you kind of needed to do a law degree ?
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2. You do not need a law degree to be a barrister. You need a degree in something, and if that something is not law, you then do a one year diploma in law.
3. A degree in any rigorous academic subject (and philosophy is one of those) may be useful in all sorts of ways, job related and not. it is a pity to reduce study to a simply monetised thing.
Breadvan72 said:
1. Google what PhD stands for. Not all PhDs are in philosophy. ...
To be fair the original article and the Aussy press specifically said ''PhD in Philosophy'' but you're right her Bio says;... qualifications in Psychology, Human Movement Studies, and Higher Education.
...Bachelor of Arts (2003)
Doctor of Philosophy (2009)
Graduate Certificate in Higher Education (2010)...
So PhD in Human Movement Studies?
I'm sticking with pretentious twerp.
Dicky Knee said:
At Sixth Form College our history teacher's surname was Death. He also had a doctorate.
We never, ever missed an opportunity to call him Dr Death.
Our local GP was Dr Payne, not the correct spelling but pronounced the same We never, ever missed an opportunity to call him Dr Death.
Edited by Dicky Knee on Friday 7th September 14:53
Breadvan72 said:
I infer from that post that you do not know what PhD stands for.
The article in the original link states that her PhD is in philosophy. This is contradicted elsewhere, but of course someone reading the link would take it at face value.In your normal haste to try to appear superior you’ve made yourself look stupid again.
Shakermaker said:
As this happened on board a Qantas airline, does anyone know how much this type of deference is paid to people in Australia?
The image of the Aussies being a laid-back group with their easy going nature, not too worried about formalities such as this, would that be accurate? and would that transcend into the workplace, where an Australian aircraft cabin crew member would be doing their best not to call everyone "Mate" as they got on board by using Mr/Miss instead, where Sir/Madam is just too formal for them?
Yes, or if the hostie on the door is in a good mood you might get called Knackers!The image of the Aussies being a laid-back group with their easy going nature, not too worried about formalities such as this, would that be accurate? and would that transcend into the workplace, where an Australian aircraft cabin crew member would be doing their best not to call everyone "Mate" as they got on board by using Mr/Miss instead, where Sir/Madam is just too formal for them?
If you're an aussie bloke boarding an aussie plane you'll already know your seat number and exactly where to walk. The hostie will will see that you know what you're doing and give you a '...know where you're going, Knackers?' on the way past, to which you'll reply 'yep...' without breaking stride. If you aren't quite that organised and sully up to the hostie, ticket in hand like you're some sort of beggar, you'll be met with a cheery 'cheesus what are you - a flamin' poofter?', given directions and sent on your way.
Let's get this straight. She's got to a level in her studies. So? What's that got to do with me or the Qantas bod?
I can understand it might have some importance internally in her job, but to the rest of us, who gives a damn?
If a person collapses in a theatre and someone calls out 'Is there a doctor in the house?' one hopes that her conceit is not so strong that she'd put herself forward.
It's important to her, I get that. I've passed a number of exams in my time and I was chuffed at the time, but I would not expect anyone to call me 'Basic driving course Derek Smith'. Does she use her course honorific with friends? If she came to a party you were throwing and demanded to be called D.Phil, you'd take the drink out of her hand and tell her to go.
A chap I used to work with got his masters. I was impressed and bought him a drink. That's as far as I'd go.
I can understand it might have some importance internally in her job, but to the rest of us, who gives a damn?
If a person collapses in a theatre and someone calls out 'Is there a doctor in the house?' one hopes that her conceit is not so strong that she'd put herself forward.
It's important to her, I get that. I've passed a number of exams in my time and I was chuffed at the time, but I would not expect anyone to call me 'Basic driving course Derek Smith'. Does she use her course honorific with friends? If she came to a party you were throwing and demanded to be called D.Phil, you'd take the drink out of her hand and tell her to go.
A chap I used to work with got his masters. I was impressed and bought him a drink. That's as far as I'd go.
James_B said:
Breadvan72 said:
I infer from that post that you do not know what PhD stands for.
The article in the original link states that her PhD is in philosophy. This is contradicted elsewhere, but of course someone reading the link would take it at face value.In your normal haste to try to appear superior you’ve made yourself look stupid again.
Here is the post that I was commenting on: -
Jasandjules said:
Her education is Philosophy? Well firstly that ought to preclude the title of doctor for starters, should we not reserve such titles for those who actually have to think and put in effort to get a PhD?
I shall try to assist James B further by explaining why he has indeed just made himself look stupider than usual (quite an achievement!). Note that the poster whom I quoted suggested that only those who think and put in effort should be eligible to receive a PhD. The poster appears to suggest that those who study philosophy should not be eligible for a degree that is called PhD but that those who study other subjects should be. From that it seems reasonable to infer that the poster is perhaps unaware what the Ph in PhD stands for. The irony of denying the title of Doctor of Philosophy to anyone who studies for a Doctorate in, er... philosophy appears to be as lost on James B as it appeared to be on Jasandjules. It matters not in this context that the grumpy airline passenger apparently has a PhD in a subject other than philosophy. 
I wonder if JasandJules would like to come round and explain to me what the book by Schopenhauer is all about that I'm trying to read at the moment, because I can't understand very much of it.
By the way, I am reminded of the story of the Jewish matron in the theatre who suddenly screamed out, "is there a doctor in the house?" A young man came running up and asked, "did you call for a doctor?" She said, "yes, how would you like to marry a nice Jewish girl, cooks well, can keep a kosher home ... "
By the way, I am reminded of the story of the Jewish matron in the theatre who suddenly screamed out, "is there a doctor in the house?" A young man came running up and asked, "did you call for a doctor?" She said, "yes, how would you like to marry a nice Jewish girl, cooks well, can keep a kosher home ... "
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