The BAD PARKING thread [vol4]
The BAD PARKING thread [vol4]
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vikingaero

13,103 posts

197 months

Thursday 28th May
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Sticks. said:
vikingaero said:
There's a real culture now in many tourist beauty hotspots where people think dumping cars on DYL, kerbs, verges and generally on the other side of double yellow lines magically means they are parked OK. Is it a generational thing where the current orange tan brigade seem to do this as a right? I'm fairly sure that most of us old/older farts on PH know the significance of DYLs extending to property boundaries and know not to park on zigzags. But the current parc of drivers seem to DO AS I FACKING PLEASE!

A £70 fine reduced to £35 if paid within 14 days is no longer a deterrent. I would give Police and Councils the ability to issue a superfine where parking is dangerous, say £500 with no discount.
Camber had a 2.5 mile queue of stationary traffic just to get there on Monday, as usual. There's not enough parking and the council has decided it's a good idea to charge £30 a day. So, DYL parking and parking on people's drives is the norm. Sometimes it's gridlock due to the parking. Having a st in someone's garden isn't uncommon too.

This is not new. People know before they come, but still do.
We go away on a lot of UK short breaks and one time we went to South Wales. Tenby was our first stop and we were the first to arrive, park up with no problems, had breakfast and an explore. Upon leaving around lunchtime, the place was heaving. On to our next place, St.Davids, and there was no chance in hell of parking anywhere, so we offskied to Cardigan - no dumping the car on a verge or obstructing anyone. I think we had a better time in Cardigan that St Davids considering the scrum.

Rusty Old-Banger

7,591 posts

241 months

Thursday 28th May
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DKS said:
mac96 said:
The neighbour seems to want the entire width of their plot as access to their paved garden. Obviously unreasonable and I doubt they would get permission for a dropped kerb that wide.

If everyone did that there would be no room for any parking on the road!
I'm lucky the council elected to effectively drop the kerbs along the entire length of my road allowing anyone access to their front garden, which has allowed most people to park 2 cars off the road with relative ease (some including me have a garage too). Although access is implied rather than explicitly offered maybe. Very sensible in my opinion and has resulted in very few parking issues in over 20 years.
I'm surprised at that - unless they are encouraging 50/50 footway parking, allowing residents to effectively block their own driveways (a more common practice than you might think). My LA will not allow a double width dropped kerb (unless shared with a neighbour) because it removes availability of on-road parking. There must be a minimum of 5m between dropped sections for this reason.




POIDH

3,606 posts

93 months

Thursday 28th May
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CMTMB said:
tomsugden said:
Interesting article on the BBC today, and I'm inclined to agree with the person parking there.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3perwwny1o
My first thought is it must be an extremely slow news day.
My first thought was the moral high ground of the neighbour is diminished by her pavement parking...

Rusty Old-Banger

7,591 posts

241 months

Thursday 28th May
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POIDH said:
CMTMB said:
tomsugden said:
Interesting article on the BBC today, and I'm inclined to agree with the person parking there.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3perwwny1o
My first thought is it must be an extremely slow news day.
My first thought was the moral high ground of the neighbour is diminished by her pavement parking...
No issue with the pavement parker. Big issue with the neighbour who hasn't applied for a vehicle access.

See this road near me: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.913938,0.8949132...

I reckon over half of the houses have "driveways" but no actual, official vehicle accesses, meaning parking on the road is exceptionally limited for the number of resident vehicles. Their day is coming... Maybe spiteful of me (as it is a pet hate of mine), but I am in the process of looking at a maintenance scheme along here which will reset the kerb height to the full 125mm, and only official dropped kerb accesses will remain. And then if people still insist on driving across the footway, bollards will go in.

DKS

1,904 posts

212 months

Thursday 28th May
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Rusty Old-Banger said:
I'm surprised at that - unless they are encouraging 50/50 footway parking, allowing residents to effectively block their own driveways (a more common practice than you might think). My LA will not allow a double width dropped kerb (unless shared with a neighbour) because it removes availability of on-road parking. There must be a minimum of 5m between dropped sections for this reason.



Yes - there's a defined patch that may have been grass a long time ago that is kind of marked parking that still allows front drive or rear garage access.



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joshcowin

7,578 posts

204 months

Thursday 28th May
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Rusty Old-Banger said:
No issue with the pavement parker. Big issue with the neighbour who hasn't applied for a vehicle access.

See this road near me: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.913938,0.8949132...

I reckon over half of the houses have "driveways" but no actual, official vehicle accesses, meaning parking on the road is exceptionally limited for the number of resident vehicles. Their day is coming... Maybe spiteful of me (as it is a pet hate of mine), but I am in the process of looking at a maintenance scheme along here which will reset the kerb height to the full 125mm, and only official dropped kerb accesses will remain. And then if people still insist on driving across the footway, bollards will go in.
What a waste of time and money, get a grip!

Rusty Old-Banger

7,591 posts

241 months

Thursday 28th May
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joshcowin said:
Rusty Old-Banger said:
No issue with the pavement parker. Big issue with the neighbour who hasn't applied for a vehicle access.

See this road near me: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.913938,0.8949132...

I reckon over half of the houses have "driveways" but no actual, official vehicle accesses, meaning parking on the road is exceptionally limited for the number of resident vehicles. Their day is coming... Maybe spiteful of me (as it is a pet hate of mine), but I am in the process of looking at a maintenance scheme along here which will reset the kerb height to the full 125mm, and only official dropped kerb accesses will remain. And then if people still insist on driving across the footway, bollards will go in.
What a waste of time and money, get a grip!
It's literally my job. I'm a highways engineer for the local authority. A 125mm kerb face is standard - putting in anything less is non-standard, therefore against policy. If I build something which facilitates people to continue crossing a non-VA, then we (and by extension, the taxpayer) become liable for damage to utilities (mega£££), safety incidents, etc etc.

donkmeister

12,700 posts

128 months

Thursday 28th May
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Rusty Old-Banger said:
joshcowin said:
Rusty Old-Banger said:
No issue with the pavement parker. Big issue with the neighbour who hasn't applied for a vehicle access.

See this road near me: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.913938,0.8949132...

I reckon over half of the houses have "driveways" but no actual, official vehicle accesses, meaning parking on the road is exceptionally limited for the number of resident vehicles. Their day is coming... Maybe spiteful of me (as it is a pet hate of mine), but I am in the process of looking at a maintenance scheme along here which will reset the kerb height to the full 125mm, and only official dropped kerb accesses will remain. And then if people still insist on driving across the footway, bollards will go in.
What a waste of time and money, get a grip!
It's literally my job. I'm a highways engineer for the local authority. A 125mm kerb face is standard - putting in anything less is non-standard, therefore against policy. If I build something which facilitates people to continue crossing a non-VA, then we (and by extension, the taxpayer) become liable for damage to utilities (mega£££), safety incidents, etc etc.
As a home owner who had to go through the rigmarole of planning permission, followed by paying for a survey, having to revise plans due to the proximity of a service access, then paying for the LA contractor to do the dropped kerb at government contract prices, I say you're doing god's work there.

It's annoying to go through the effort and expense of doing something properly and legally, only for others to do as they like. I've seen broken service covers, bits of wood and rubber screwed to the road or free-floating near the kerb. If people want vehicle access, make them pay for it. If they rent, their landlord should pay for it and put the rent up to cover the additional amenity. They'll also benefit ultimately, from a greater resale value.

The cheekiest one I saw was a pair of people who had no driveway until the council built a pedestrian crossing. Now they use the pedestrian crossing as access to drive onto their front gardens. I've been stood, waiting to cross when they arrive and start driving up. One of those situations where you jump out of the way because they're clearly a bit mental, and later wonder what would have happened if you had just refused to move. hehe

joshcowin

7,578 posts

204 months

Thursday 28th May
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Rusty Old-Banger said:
It's literally my job. I'm a highways engineer for the local authority. A 125mm kerb face is standard - putting in anything less is non-standard, therefore against policy. If I build something which facilitates people to continue crossing a non-VA, then we (and by extension, the taxpayer) become liable for damage to utilities (mega£££), safety incidents, etc etc.
Upon review, carry on, keep up the good work smile

PSRG

840 posts

154 months

Thursday 28th May
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Now I realise that parking in an EV spot is not the most heinous crime in this picture, but even so…


Rusty Old-Banger

7,591 posts

241 months

Thursday 28th May
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joshcowin said:
Rusty Old-Banger said:
It's literally my job. I'm a highways engineer for the local authority. A 125mm kerb face is standard - putting in anything less is non-standard, therefore against policy. If I build something which facilitates people to continue crossing a non-VA, then we (and by extension, the taxpayer) become liable for damage to utilities (mega£££), safety incidents, etc etc.
Upon review, carry on, keep up the good work smile
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paddy1970

1,458 posts

137 months

Friday 29th May
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cherie171

373 posts

145 months

Saturday 30th May
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We had to laugh at this one today. Absolutely nothing behind it.


Saleen836

12,475 posts

237 months

Saturday 30th May
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Leaving Dorchester this morning and spotted this...

Ok, it is broken down but no effort made at all to be as less as an obstruction as possible, you can see the que of traffic behind
(Yes I know sometimes a vehicle will just die and make it impossible to roll out of the way)


mac96

6,312 posts

171 months

Saturday 30th May
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Saleen836 said:
Leaving Dorchester this morning and spotted this...

Ok, it is broken down but no effort made at all to be as less as an obstruction as possible, you can see the que of traffic behind
(Yes I know sometimes a vehicle will just die and make it impossible to roll out of the way)

It seems unlikely he couldn't have got further left though, unless he was already stopped in a queue when it died!

droopsnoot

14,587 posts

270 months

Sunday 31st May
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mac96 said:
Saleen836 said:
Leaving Dorchester this morning and spotted this...

Ok, it is broken down but no effort made at all to be as less as an obstruction as possible, you can see the que of traffic behind
(Yes I know sometimes a vehicle will just die and make it impossible to roll out of the way)

It seems unlikely he couldn't have got further left though, unless he was already stopped in a queue when it died!
Recently there was a Mini broken down in the entrance to my local Sainsbury's, and it caused absolute chaos - queues for some distance to get out, and lots of congestion on the road outside whether you're trying to get in or not. It seemed as if they'd been asked "Can't we just push it out of the way" a few times before I asked the same thing. Apparently the handbrake was locked on.

RicksAlfas

14,469 posts

272 months

Sunday 31st May
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droopsnoot said:
Recently there was a Mini broken down in the entrance to my local Sainsbury's, and it caused absolute chaos - queues for some distance to get out, and lots of congestion on the road outside whether you're trying to get in or not. It seemed as if they'd been asked "Can't we just push it out of the way" a few times before I asked the same thing. Apparently the handbrake was locked on.
Friend of ours experienced similar embarrassment when her electric BMW had a wobbly in the exit of a busy shoppers car park. Couldn’t do anything with it at all!

POIDH

3,606 posts

93 months

Sunday 31st May
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Yes the Vauxhall is 'parked'.


Paul_77

1,408 posts

121 months

Sunday 31st May
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At my local Tesco today.


donkmeister

12,700 posts

128 months

Sunday 31st May
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RicksAlfas said:
droopsnoot said:
Recently there was a Mini broken down in the entrance to my local Sainsbury's, and it caused absolute chaos - queues for some distance to get out, and lots of congestion on the road outside whether you're trying to get in or not. It seemed as if they'd been asked "Can't we just push it out of the way" a few times before I asked the same thing. Apparently the handbrake was locked on.
Friend of ours experienced similar embarrassment when her electric BMW had a wobbly in the exit of a busy shoppers car park. Couldn t do anything with it at all!
Even old cars with electronic handbrakes usually need something a bit beyond most people's technical skills to release. I've got a 20 year old car with an electronic handbrake and you have to empty the boot, remove the spare wheel, pop out a bung and then use the special long tool to release something. At least I think that's it, I remember seeing there's a procedure in the (paper) manual. Which leads to another issue: for a good 10 years cars seem to have had the manual as part of the infotainment. So if the car has thrown a proper electric wobbly, you might not be able to access the instructions to release the brake!