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sebhaque said:
Another thing - if you want your piss well and truly boiled, watch "Young, Dumb, and Living off Mum" - it's on iPlayer. Spoilt kids like you wouldn't imagine, and if you can watch a whole programme without wanting to throttle at least one of the kids, I'll buy you a beer.
Funny you mentioned this Seb, I was just about to post a referance up toward that simply shocking TV show.Are my kids spoiled by comparison to today's standards? No.
Are they spoiled by comparison to MY childhood? Absolutely yes.
I'm 34 now, and I was in secondary school before my parents could afford a car or VCR. I was 16 before I got a TV for my room. My daughter is 5 and she has a matching pink TV/DVD combi....and she's only here 2 nights a week!
Are they spoiled by comparison to MY childhood? Absolutely yes.
I'm 34 now, and I was in secondary school before my parents could afford a car or VCR. I was 16 before I got a TV for my room. My daughter is 5 and she has a matching pink TV/DVD combi....and she's only here 2 nights a week!
Is it more a case of parents spoiling the kids or the kids manipulating the parents ?
I am very strict with my nieces and nephew but I cannot undo what my sister and brother have done with their kids. They are all nice and bright kids but it is the little things that I would change. I realise that not being a parent it is easy to judge
I am very strict with my nieces and nephew but I cannot undo what my sister and brother have done with their kids. They are all nice and bright kids but it is the little things that I would change. I realise that not being a parent it is easy to judge
How does one define spoiled, as surely it differs depending on various factors?
At various points in life.
Is a new E30 325i Cab as an 18th present spoilt?
Is a G-Wagen as a 21st present spoilt?
Is a flat in South Ken for Uni spoilt?
Is having no material posessions but equally no work ethic whatsoever due to an intrinsic near slavery of carers spoilt?
Horses for courses really...
At various points in life.
Is a new E30 325i Cab as an 18th present spoilt?
Is a G-Wagen as a 21st present spoilt?
Is a flat in South Ken for Uni spoilt?
Is having no material posessions but equally no work ethic whatsoever due to an intrinsic near slavery of carers spoilt?
Horses for courses really...
Well I wa just going by my own standards, I know when I first started off on PH everyone thought I was a troll for saying about a first car, particularly MGZRod but made that damn business work and I've done alright out of it I guess but there were weeks when I wouldn't sleep because of all the work!
I guess I call that spoilt that I had that chance.
Looking around my bedroom I can list the things I've got:
A ps3 slim 320gb
An original xbox 360
A 32" LCD tv
A decent computer (for work)
A stereo
An iPhone 4
A blackberry( work phone)
All this stuff I work for and I pay my mums total rent even though she lives here because shes looked after me and brought me up!
I guess I call that spoilt that I had that chance.
Looking around my bedroom I can list the things I've got:
A ps3 slim 320gb
An original xbox 360
A 32" LCD tv
A decent computer (for work)
A stereo
An iPhone 4
A blackberry( work phone)
All this stuff I work for and I pay my mums total rent even though she lives here because shes looked after me and brought me up!
Shuvi Tupya said:
GF's Kid is spoilt , but not because he has the most expensive toys.
He is spoilt because his Mum's life revolves around him and his constant whinging.
His mum is his provider, his litter bin, his clothes carrier, his food hamper, his shoe lace doer upper etc etc.
The other day i bought him a used coldbox for his den in the woods and then i found it lying around near my car.
Me: "What is that doing here, it is going to get driven over, why not put it in your den?"
Him: "It is too heavy, mum will move it"
Me: "Oh! i didn't realise it was too heavy for you to move, i will take it home if it is no good to you"
He looked around for his mum, realised she was not around and then picked up the cold box and carried it to his den, easily..
He will stand in the rain with no coat on and complain of being cold, knowing his mum will make a fuss of him. I just look at him like he is some kind of idiot and tell him to go put a coat on/get out of the rain and he does just that, with a cheeky grin.
Of course i can't do that if his mum is around, as i am being horrible and mean...
Sounds like a little brat.He is spoilt because his Mum's life revolves around him and his constant whinging.
His mum is his provider, his litter bin, his clothes carrier, his food hamper, his shoe lace doer upper etc etc.
The other day i bought him a used coldbox for his den in the woods and then i found it lying around near my car.
Me: "What is that doing here, it is going to get driven over, why not put it in your den?"
Him: "It is too heavy, mum will move it"
Me: "Oh! i didn't realise it was too heavy for you to move, i will take it home if it is no good to you"
He looked around for his mum, realised she was not around and then picked up the cold box and carried it to his den, easily..
He will stand in the rain with no coat on and complain of being cold, knowing his mum will make a fuss of him. I just look at him like he is some kind of idiot and tell him to go put a coat on/get out of the rain and he does just that, with a cheeky grin.
Of course i can't do that if his mum is around, as i am being horrible and mean...
(No offence intended, but..)
sebhaque said:
Another thing - if you want your piss well and truly boiled, watch "Young, Dumb, and Living off Mum" - it's on iPlayer. Spoilt kids like you wouldn't imagine, and if you can watch a whole programme without wanting to throttle at least one of the kids, I'll buy you a beer.
Cool. You owe me a beerI was far from spoilt. Lived in horrible flats that were damp and smelt, if we had a car it was something like a skoda bought for £85 (back in the day!). Ran out of petrol on the way to school often and sometimes there was not enough food for us to take lunch to school.
But I wouldn't change a thing - my mum tried her best and my dad crawled on bloody stumps to see me every fortnight. Adversity certainly made me a stronger person than most I know, and certainly anyone my age that I know.
If you have everything you want then what more is there to aim for? My OH's half brother is 13 and has a quad bike, a laptop, ipod touch, mobile phone etc and his dad has just bought a kit car for him. And he's a little b
d, rude and doesn't try at school.
But I wouldn't change a thing - my mum tried her best and my dad crawled on bloody stumps to see me every fortnight. Adversity certainly made me a stronger person than most I know, and certainly anyone my age that I know.
If you have everything you want then what more is there to aim for? My OH's half brother is 13 and has a quad bike, a laptop, ipod touch, mobile phone etc and his dad has just bought a kit car for him. And he's a little b
d, rude and doesn't try at school. I may count as spoilt but not a spoilt brat. My OH certainly thinks I am spoilt.
She was given nothing but love and support while she grew up anything she wanted she had to earn and pay for. She did get pocket money though. She came from a fairly poor family, doing OK now though, they had 4 kids which was a struggle
I was given love and support but I rarely had to pay for anything I wanted. I did not get pocket money but every now and then would be bought something. I never demanded anything but my parents liked to treat me, obviously I was well behaved and an only child.
I am very lucky to have what I have and am very humble about it all.
But I have been given things such as, couple of cars, jet ski, good job in the family business.
I did not have stuff paid for since I have been earning and moved out of home.
My OH has said that if we have kids I am not allowed to buy them a car or similar as they wont appreciate it or learn the value of money. I don't understand this. I understand the value of money and appreciated everything I got. I know a girl who was bought a Boxter as a first car for passing her exams. My parents could have afforded similar but when out car shopping I picked a 10 year old Mazda 323 for £1300 and loved it.
Similarly with my older step brother he is very wealthy but does not flash the cash as such. His kids never go wanting for anything, they have a nice house and go on lovely holidays and get to do all sorts of amazing things that most people wouldn't dream of but when his eldest learnt to drive my bro bought him a £800 Fiesta rather than a Lambo and he was happy with that just having something to get around in.
She was given nothing but love and support while she grew up anything she wanted she had to earn and pay for. She did get pocket money though. She came from a fairly poor family, doing OK now though, they had 4 kids which was a struggle
I was given love and support but I rarely had to pay for anything I wanted. I did not get pocket money but every now and then would be bought something. I never demanded anything but my parents liked to treat me, obviously I was well behaved and an only child.
I am very lucky to have what I have and am very humble about it all.
But I have been given things such as, couple of cars, jet ski, good job in the family business.
I did not have stuff paid for since I have been earning and moved out of home.
My OH has said that if we have kids I am not allowed to buy them a car or similar as they wont appreciate it or learn the value of money. I don't understand this. I understand the value of money and appreciated everything I got. I know a girl who was bought a Boxter as a first car for passing her exams. My parents could have afforded similar but when out car shopping I picked a 10 year old Mazda 323 for £1300 and loved it.
Similarly with my older step brother he is very wealthy but does not flash the cash as such. His kids never go wanting for anything, they have a nice house and go on lovely holidays and get to do all sorts of amazing things that most people wouldn't dream of but when his eldest learnt to drive my bro bought him a £800 Fiesta rather than a Lambo and he was happy with that just having something to get around in.
walm said:
Well, back in my day we had it tough... blah, blah...
(Not sure why Rowan Atkinson is in this pic, but you get the idea...)

Because it's from The Secret Policeman's Ball and Graham Chapman was dead.(Not sure why Rowan Atkinson is in this pic, but you get the idea...)

My Sister In Law has just given birth to my parent's first Grandchild. That kid is going to get spoilt.
And in a year's time I'm buying it a drumkit. And a recorder. And ten kilos of chocolate
My niece is totally spoilt by my brother and his missus. She doesn't lift a finger around the house, pays no rent, eats for free, only has to moan a little for bags of attention. Her toys and gadgets totally fill their house and she is always being bought more and more, not just by them but by her grandparents too! My childhood was never like this; I'm so jealous it's so unfair!
She's 1!
She's 1!

escortcosworth12 said:
I wouldnt say im spoilt. I have an xbox, tv, computer, ipod and a phone, but the xbox was a birthday present and generally if i want a game or anything i pay for it, the tv was the old one from our kitchen....
Well, I'm 25 (for the last day today
) and I know the old adage "in my time", but I often see this amongst the 16 yo, an Xbox, smartphone, computer, TV, all stuff costing hundreds of pounds.Ten years ago, I'd never thought of asking for something more than £50 from my parents.
Has this standard of living changed so much? Of course, at 16, I worked in the weekends and bought me all that stuff for myself, but it took me several months to come op with the money (and asking some money on my birthday to buy myself a secondhand £150 TV).
I'm guessing that, when I have kids, I'd buy them too much as well, but I still missed the part where these hundreds-of-pounds birthday gifts became common ground :/.
I have just turned 26, I still live at home but am viewing houses at the moment.
I have a 32" TV - given by parents when they upgraded to 42" 18 months ago (I offered £50 but dad is stubborn and wouldn't take it)
Surround Sound - Bought myself as a Xmas pressie £100
PS3 - Bought myself as a birthday pressie £270
Wii - Present from family (joint present from numerous family members) £150
PSP - OH bought me it a few years ago for Xmas £200 (at a guess)
Iphone 4 - my contract
Sky+ - I contribute
Broadband - I pay for
Netbook - I bought but mum and dad contributed as a present for Xmas
I was bought my first car as my brother was bought his (£600 Citroen AX 1.0ltr) I was so grateful & I loved that car to pieces, I should have kept it as a second car when I got the AX GTi
I started paying board by force 3 years ago as dad didn't want it as he didn't think it was fair as I don't spend a lot of time at home really, I am out with mates/ OH the majority of the time & I don't eat much (also brother lived at home til 26 and paid no board) - I got their savings account details and set up a DD
I have my washing done & meals cooked (mostly) but that is only because my parents don't really let me do anything, when they are away (like now) I love cleaning up & cooking! If I had the chance to help out more, I would. I occasionally do the washing up, shopping for bits & ironing
I am certainly not spoilt but I have always been given help if I needed it, I would never have acted "spoilt brattish" and kicked up a fuss if given something that wasn't what I wanted.
I've never really asked for anything too big, I usually ask for pressies around the £30 mark from rents and £10-£15 mark for brother, OH we set a £100 budget usually but thats a 2 way thing
I have a 32" TV - given by parents when they upgraded to 42" 18 months ago (I offered £50 but dad is stubborn and wouldn't take it)
Surround Sound - Bought myself as a Xmas pressie £100
PS3 - Bought myself as a birthday pressie £270
Wii - Present from family (joint present from numerous family members) £150
PSP - OH bought me it a few years ago for Xmas £200 (at a guess)
Iphone 4 - my contract
Sky+ - I contribute
Broadband - I pay for
Netbook - I bought but mum and dad contributed as a present for Xmas
I was bought my first car as my brother was bought his (£600 Citroen AX 1.0ltr) I was so grateful & I loved that car to pieces, I should have kept it as a second car when I got the AX GTi
I started paying board by force 3 years ago as dad didn't want it as he didn't think it was fair as I don't spend a lot of time at home really, I am out with mates/ OH the majority of the time & I don't eat much (also brother lived at home til 26 and paid no board) - I got their savings account details and set up a DD
I have my washing done & meals cooked (mostly) but that is only because my parents don't really let me do anything, when they are away (like now) I love cleaning up & cooking! If I had the chance to help out more, I would. I occasionally do the washing up, shopping for bits & ironing
I am certainly not spoilt but I have always been given help if I needed it, I would never have acted "spoilt brattish" and kicked up a fuss if given something that wasn't what I wanted.
I've never really asked for anything too big, I usually ask for pressies around the £30 mark from rents and £10-£15 mark for brother, OH we set a £100 budget usually but thats a 2 way thing
Edited by axgizmo on Friday 26th August 12:53
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