1.0 Ecoboost Focus fuel economy
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It really frustrates me to say the least.....
All these modern cars with small engines and claimed high mpg figures that get free or cheap road tax that just don't live up to the manufactures claims and dissapoint their owners.
Take the point of this thread for example and also two of my mates who's wives both have 1.4 TDCi Fiestas and who are both complaining about fuel consumption. One of my mates has an ST TDCi mondeo and he gets better fuel consumption than the 1.4 TDCi Fiesta.
My 10 year old Mondeo 2 litre TDCi that I've looked after properly for eight years has now covered 184000 miles with no major issues besides a clutch at 152k manages to acheive 47 - 48 mpg consistantly, mixed driving without trying. I can easily get mid 50's on a run.
seems so much better than a lot of these new motors that don't seem to live up to their claims.
All these modern cars with small engines and claimed high mpg figures that get free or cheap road tax that just don't live up to the manufactures claims and dissapoint their owners.
Take the point of this thread for example and also two of my mates who's wives both have 1.4 TDCi Fiestas and who are both complaining about fuel consumption. One of my mates has an ST TDCi mondeo and he gets better fuel consumption than the 1.4 TDCi Fiesta.
My 10 year old Mondeo 2 litre TDCi that I've looked after properly for eight years has now covered 184000 miles with no major issues besides a clutch at 152k manages to acheive 47 - 48 mpg consistantly, mixed driving without trying. I can easily get mid 50's on a run.
seems so much better than a lot of these new motors that don't seem to live up to their claims.
Don't no why your local dealer has not pointed this our but with such small milages on the engines are still running in. I work at a Ford dealer we have sold loads and not had any come back complaining about fuel economy. Come to think of it had no one at all.
If your dealer offered it approx a year or so ago. You could have an econo check carried out. All the info was sent back to Ford and they sent you a nice letter saying how you could improve your fuel economy might be worth a shot.
If your dealer offered it approx a year or so ago. You could have an econo check carried out. All the info was sent back to Ford and they sent you a nice letter saying how you could improve your fuel economy might be worth a shot.
BAAN said:
I have had a Focus Titanium 125 ecoboost since September 2012. Been in once already for fuel consumption issues i.e. driving steady and 37mpg. Ended up with a "re map" from Germany. This around 3,400 miles. Called again last month to register same complaint. Have logged journeys, dates , mileage etc for them over 2 tank fulls. Result 1st trip av speed 35mph av fuel 40.1mpg over 394 miles,2nd trip av speed 29mph av fuel 37.6mpg over 390 miles. Car now done around 7,300 miles. Booked back in on 6th March as need courtesy car. Will keep you posted on outcome. This doesn't seem to be unusual which is worrying. If I put my foot down in 2nd gear does 7mpg according to computer, ouch!!. Amount of fuel i put in and miles done seems to match computer figures. All in all not a happy bunny. Shame because car is quite nice.
Umm, no offence, but with average speeds of 29mph, you're never going to get decent economy. I'd say it's due to you driving around "on boost" in town. The remark about the instant dropping to 7mpg if you floor it... All cars do that, some even drop to near zero!
I took delivery of a new 1.0 ecoboost Titanium with 125BHP in July of last year and clocked 9000 miles up in that amount of time. The engine is superb, makes a great sound when revved, punchy and torquey. So long as you don't want to accelerated up hills but just maintain speed then its excellent, sure its no hot hatch but for 3 cylinders its just sublime. Its only the steepest of hills you need to change down for...and overtaking...but that just makes it more fun...
The question of fuel economy comes as a surprise to me reading some of these posts. I regularly get 400/450 miles to a tank and average around 45mpg. I re-set my trip computer every time I fill up and my weekly journeys consist of 2x 10 mile trip through central Birmingham in stop start-traffic, and 2x 25 mile journeys on A and B roads and the odd mile or two on the motorway. I have only ever completed one journey of sub 40mpg and that was just before Christmas, doing a 150 mile trip down the M5 travelling at 70mph with a 70+mph head wind, and then I averaged 39mpg. On the way back later on in the week with the wind behind me I averaged 54mpg. On a standard motorway journey with the cruise control set to 70mph, its not uncommon to see 50+mpg.
Filling up in general can cause problems; I get more miles to a tank and slightly better MPG if I fill up at my Ford garage (where they use good quality fuel and there isn't a limit set on the pumps, but I pay about 4pence per litre more than a supermarket) than I do at the supermarket; where they use rubbish fuel and set a limiter, so you're pulled in by the cheap prices but actually you're getting less fuel than you think you're getting for your money.
At this point I'd like to point out I'm 20 years of age, not 70, and don't deem myself to be a slow driver (Nor a boy racer) by any stretch of the imagination. At least twice with each tank of fuel I would have thought, I take it up to the red line in 2nd gear and then up to about 5000rpm in third. (Purely because it sounds so good to rev !!) Additionally I often find myself overtaking other drivers and pressing on a bit...
I had a mk2 focus 1.6tdci (DO NOT BUY) before this one, and not including the £2000 worth of repair bills I had in 9 months and £2000 it lost in depreciation, I was averaging about 45mpg with that too but of course it was diesel so cost a lot more to run. A full tank in the mk3 1.0 costs me abut £55 paying £1.27pl ! I don't think I've ever paid more than £60 for a full tank and I regularly use more expensive garages, along with running into till the fuel light comes on ! The mk3 is a phenomenal leap forward in every respect over the previous model. The build quality and quality of materials is astonishing for a Ford, the ride comfort is amazing, the quietness of the cabin is well received and the seats are ridiculously comfortable. After 3 hours of driving I'd arrive with no back ache whatsoever, whereas in the mk2 I'd have to stop and break the journey for that reason !
I'm extremely happy with the mk3, a few minor issues have been ironed out through the warranty but I can't praise this car highly enough. The engine is a work of genius and when asked what it's like by people I always say, you've got the economy and torque of a diesel, but the sound, cheapness and smoothness of a petrol - its a blend of both and it works really well !
The question of fuel economy comes as a surprise to me reading some of these posts. I regularly get 400/450 miles to a tank and average around 45mpg. I re-set my trip computer every time I fill up and my weekly journeys consist of 2x 10 mile trip through central Birmingham in stop start-traffic, and 2x 25 mile journeys on A and B roads and the odd mile or two on the motorway. I have only ever completed one journey of sub 40mpg and that was just before Christmas, doing a 150 mile trip down the M5 travelling at 70mph with a 70+mph head wind, and then I averaged 39mpg. On the way back later on in the week with the wind behind me I averaged 54mpg. On a standard motorway journey with the cruise control set to 70mph, its not uncommon to see 50+mpg.
Filling up in general can cause problems; I get more miles to a tank and slightly better MPG if I fill up at my Ford garage (where they use good quality fuel and there isn't a limit set on the pumps, but I pay about 4pence per litre more than a supermarket) than I do at the supermarket; where they use rubbish fuel and set a limiter, so you're pulled in by the cheap prices but actually you're getting less fuel than you think you're getting for your money.
At this point I'd like to point out I'm 20 years of age, not 70, and don't deem myself to be a slow driver (Nor a boy racer) by any stretch of the imagination. At least twice with each tank of fuel I would have thought, I take it up to the red line in 2nd gear and then up to about 5000rpm in third. (Purely because it sounds so good to rev !!) Additionally I often find myself overtaking other drivers and pressing on a bit...
I had a mk2 focus 1.6tdci (DO NOT BUY) before this one, and not including the £2000 worth of repair bills I had in 9 months and £2000 it lost in depreciation, I was averaging about 45mpg with that too but of course it was diesel so cost a lot more to run. A full tank in the mk3 1.0 costs me abut £55 paying £1.27pl ! I don't think I've ever paid more than £60 for a full tank and I regularly use more expensive garages, along with running into till the fuel light comes on ! The mk3 is a phenomenal leap forward in every respect over the previous model. The build quality and quality of materials is astonishing for a Ford, the ride comfort is amazing, the quietness of the cabin is well received and the seats are ridiculously comfortable. After 3 hours of driving I'd arrive with no back ache whatsoever, whereas in the mk2 I'd have to stop and break the journey for that reason !
I'm extremely happy with the mk3, a few minor issues have been ironed out through the warranty but I can't praise this car highly enough. The engine is a work of genius and when asked what it's like by people I always say, you've got the economy and torque of a diesel, but the sound, cheapness and smoothness of a petrol - its a blend of both and it works really well !
SCarrivick said:
Filling up in general can cause problems; I get more miles to a tank and slightly better MPG if I fill up at my Ford garage (where they use good quality fuel and there isn't a limit set on the pumps, but I pay about 4pence per litre more than a supermarket) than I do at the supermarket; where they use rubbish fuel and set a limiter, so you're pulled in by the cheap prices but actually you're getting less fuel than you think you're getting for your money.
Eh? Limiter?Mines a Jan '13 1.0 Ecoboost 125 Focus, 12k miles.
I get about 43mpg during my 20 miles each way commute cross country keeping to 60mph.
I can get 53 mpg at a steady 60mph on the motorway on a long run, easing off over the hills.
Not bad, but as others have said, no better than my 1.7L TD Mondy with 180k on the clock. Still the road tax is ALOT cheaper, as is the fuel.
I gather the oil bathed timing belt may not be as long lasting as Henry's claim of 10 years or 125k miles. Reports of early failures already.
I get about 43mpg during my 20 miles each way commute cross country keeping to 60mph.
I can get 53 mpg at a steady 60mph on the motorway on a long run, easing off over the hills.
Not bad, but as others have said, no better than my 1.7L TD Mondy with 180k on the clock. Still the road tax is ALOT cheaper, as is the fuel.
I gather the oil bathed timing belt may not be as long lasting as Henry's claim of 10 years or 125k miles. Reports of early failures already.
Thanks for your continued replies people, I'm on my second 1.0 ecoboost now (ink blue Zetec S) still only averaging 38-39 on my 80 mile round trip commute but as others have said, fuel is cheaper and the driving experiance is so much better than the diesel, I'll be getting another as I've heard the residuls on the 1.6 180 are not as good as the 1.0! I change my car often and was considering testing the 1.6
Centurion07 said:
SCarrivick said:
Filling up in general can cause problems; I get more miles to a tank and slightly better MPG if I fill up at my Ford garage (where they use good quality fuel and there isn't a limit set on the pumps, but I pay about 4pence per litre more than a supermarket) than I do at the supermarket; where they use rubbish fuel and set a limiter, so you're pulled in by the cheap prices but actually you're getting less fuel than you think you're getting for your money.
Eh? Limiter?what is a limiter and how does it make you get less fuel than the pump says you have ?
I go from London to Swansea and back once a month and have done so for the last 5 years, it doesn't matter if i fill up at Tesco or Shell, i get the same ave MPG every run (same route no motorways, via Oxford and the forest of dean at night) same time ect ect
BUT i do run an old 80's diesel which only gets 47 MPG, i can get slightly more on the motorways but they bore me so, i do understand modern cars are more finiky on fuel quality (or rather how mutch water is in the fuel) and on my own blend of fuel i get over 50 MPG but i only use it in the summer
[quote]Filling up in general can cause problems; I get more miles to a tank and slightly better MPG if I fill up at my Ford garage (where they use good quality fuel and there isn't a limit set on the pumps, but I pay about 4pence per litre more than a supermarket) than I do at the supermarket; where they use rubbish fuel and set a limiter, so you're pulled in by the cheap prices but actually you're getting less fuel than you think you're getting for your money.
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This is nonsense
you get a litre or gallon where ever you buy it.
whom ever told you this was either taking the P or the one selling you pricier fuel..
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This is nonsense
you get a litre or gallon where ever you buy it.
whom ever told you this was either taking the P or the one selling you pricier fuel..
Alech said:
Computer on mine reads 42.5mpg however calculating manually, ( miles travelled and actual fuel used I calculate I am getting 38.83. Clearly the computer is badly calibrated. Not a happy chappy.
Virtually all cars over-read, they're not calibrated at all, it's just an estimate based on the ECU's demands of the engine.Had mine for about 10k miles; mpg never better than 38mpg for first month or so . But now? 44-45 mpg . Why ? I suspect my driving technique is the answer; having been beguiled by all the road test hype about how it would pull high gears at low revs (which it does happily )I got bored with glacial acceleration after a series of torquey diesels . I now habitually change up well up the rev range and use 4, 5 and 6th for maintaining speed but not gaining it.As it does 60 + in 2nd and 90 in 3rd this is not a problem . The other trick in driving it is to exploit the complete absence of engine braking - meaning that you are effectively free wheeling in many situations , even in town, for ludicrously long periods compared to anything else I have driven .
It is a fabulous little engine- creamy smooth and uncannily quiet, but with a nice 'wannabe a 911 when I grow up ' noise when roused.
It is a fabulous little engine- creamy smooth and uncannily quiet, but with a nice 'wannabe a 911 when I grow up ' noise when roused.
I had a 100bhp Fiesta for 3 years and over 28,000 miles it averaged 50.4mpg. Then again, it never once broke the speed limit, it was mostly motorway driving and my smoothness and anticipation is almost god-like. I even had all five leaves in every category on the eco report thingy. I loved that car.
A chap I worked with had an identical car and he was struggling with 35mpg. I've seen how he drives, so I was quietly surprised that he managed to get it as high as 35.
A chap I worked with had an identical car and he was struggling with 35mpg. I've seen how he drives, so I was quietly surprised that he managed to get it as high as 35.
coppice said:
Had mine for about 10k miles; mpg never better than 38mpg for first month or so . But now? 44-45 mpg . Why ? I suspect my driving technique is the answer; having been beguiled by all the road test hype about how it would pull high gears at low revs (which it does happily )I got bored with glacial acceleration after a series of torquey diesels . I now habitually change up well up the rev range and use 4, 5 and 6th for maintaining speed but not gaining it.As it does 60 + in 2nd and 90 in 3rd this is not a problem . The other trick in driving it is to exploit the complete absence of engine braking - meaning that you are effectively free wheeling in many situations , even in town, for ludicrously long periods compared to anything else I have driven .
It is a fabulous little engine- creamy smooth and uncannily quiet, but with a nice 'wannabe a 911 when I grow up ' noise when roused.
Definitely this. If you're driving at 30mph in 3rd with the 1.0 Ecoboost you're doing it wrong. It is a fabulous little engine- creamy smooth and uncannily quiet, but with a nice 'wannabe a 911 when I grow up ' noise when roused.
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