RE: Volvo confirms 2014 V8 Supercars entry
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good news. with the new cotf (car of the future) rules it allows almost any major manufacturer the ability to enter.
all the cars are almost mechanically identical sans the engine. control chassi, brakes, gear box, rear end etc.
i believe the amg has a flat plane crank so sounds different to the gm and ford engines.
all the cars are almost mechanically identical sans the engine. control chassi, brakes, gear box, rear end etc.
i believe the amg has a flat plane crank so sounds different to the gm and ford engines.
Kong said:
So are they using the Volvo V8 or a US crate engine? I know the article says Polestar build it but I hightly doubt it will be their design from scratch.
According to a report on Speedcafe.com, Volvo are going to resurrect their B8444S engine (currently 4.4 litres) and expand that out to a 5.0 V8 to meet the series requirements.http://www.speedcafe.com/2013/06/18/polestar-undau...
The regs around the V8 Supercars Car Of The Future can be found here
http://www.v8supercars.com.au/championship/technic...
What was interesting in watching the last round from Darwin is how far back the engine was sitting in the Nissan's. The Mercedes-AMG Erebus team were having cooling issues in the Darwin heat, and under the bonnet there wasn't much of a gap between the front of the car the front of the engine. The Nissan had a massive gap which was aiding cooling.
It'll be interesting to see what the volvo is going to be like
Credits to Speedhunters.com for the engine pics
Edited by WyleECoyote on Tuesday 18th June 02:14
Edited by WyleECoyote on Tuesday 18th June 02:16
WyleECoyote said:
What was interesting in watching the last round from Darwin is how far back the engine was sitting in the Nissan's. The Mercedes-AMG Erebus team were having cooling issues in the Darwin heat, and under the bonnet there wasn't much of a gap between the front of the car the front of the engine. The Nissan had a massive gap which was aiding cooling.
It'll be interesting to see what the volvo is going to be like]
I found that really interesting too - I suspect the Volvo will be similar to the Altima. That engine packaging is due to the Altima's body design being based cosmetically on a FWD design, so the front axle-line is a lot further back, the cabin further forward, and the front overhang much greater than with a RWD design (which places the front axle-line further forward in relationship to the rest of the body). The V8 regs require the motor to be within the wheelbase, so the end result is the Altima has it's motor stuffed way back in the engine bay to get behind that front axle-line.It'll be interesting to see what the volvo is going to be like]
I think it is a pity we don't still have a race following the original concept of the Bathurst 500. Not an either or, but an additional race for stock standard vehicles, with only tyres & brake material optional.
Yes the Bathurst layout could favor things with more torque to some extent, but it was the only thing that ever answered that old question, of which production car was best at what.
It really was a great way to spend a Sunday, & by the end a lot of people, not just petrol heads, had firmed up what car to buy.
I once had a neighbor show me his new 1300 Ford Cortina, telling me they must be a good car, after all one, [a limited production, GT500 Cortina] had won that Bathurst race. He didn't care, & quite possibly didn't know, that the GT was hand ported & polished, & cost twice what his cost, it was still a Cortina.
Yes the Bathurst layout could favor things with more torque to some extent, but it was the only thing that ever answered that old question, of which production car was best at what.
It really was a great way to spend a Sunday, & by the end a lot of people, not just petrol heads, had firmed up what car to buy.
I once had a neighbor show me his new 1300 Ford Cortina, telling me they must be a good car, after all one, [a limited production, GT500 Cortina] had won that Bathurst race. He didn't care, & quite possibly didn't know, that the GT was hand ported & polished, & cost twice what his cost, it was still a Cortina.
Janesy B said:
matt3001 said:
You can see which economy in the world is booming...
Perhaps Volvo using Ford's departure from Australia to gain a foothold in the market?I had a fast lap in the Polestar at Eastern Creek at the Top Gear Festival.... it is brutally quick. GT-R quick..... 911 quick. Their entry into the V8's will be a welcome addition... as an exiled Pom in Oz, I have never got the whole Holden and Ford thing.... but with Nissan and Merc and now Volvo, this harks back to the BTCC halcyon days of the 90's. Bring it on. I for one am going to take more Interest in the V8 Supercars from now.... and I'm going to get a Volvo t-shirt and speak Swedish.
Hasbeen said:
I think it is a pity we don't still have a race following the original concept of the Bathurst 500. Not an either or, but an additional race for stock standard vehicles, with only tyres & brake material optional.
Yes the Bathurst layout could favor things with more torque to some extent, but it was the only thing that ever answered that old question, of which production car was best at what.
It really was a great way to spend a Sunday, & by the end a lot of people, not just petrol heads, had firmed up what car to buy.
I once had a neighbor show me his new 1300 Ford Cortina, telling me they must be a good car, after all one, [a limited production, GT500 Cortina] had won that Bathurst race. He didn't care, & quite possibly didn't know, that the GT was hand ported & polished, & cost twice what his cost, it was still a Cortina.
I know I always disagree with you, but isn't this a large part of what the bathurst 12 hour sets out to do?Yes the Bathurst layout could favor things with more torque to some extent, but it was the only thing that ever answered that old question, of which production car was best at what.
It really was a great way to spend a Sunday, & by the end a lot of people, not just petrol heads, had firmed up what car to buy.
I once had a neighbor show me his new 1300 Ford Cortina, telling me they must be a good car, after all one, [a limited production, GT500 Cortina] had won that Bathurst race. He didn't care, & quite possibly didn't know, that the GT was hand ported & polished, & cost twice what his cost, it was still a Cortina.
My mechanic is entering a Renault Clio Sport in it, as well as some other production car enduros.
I love that kind of motorsport - the production level stuff, or production with some minor enhancements. I guess it's why I like tarmac rallying so much.
Edited by Colonial on Tuesday 18th June 06:07
I find it strange that the UK has no national series with any sort of global reach. I'm guessing in terms of facilities, circuits, spectators and sheer volume of club motorsport were pretty much top of the pile (or near it) in world motorsport, yet we have nothing that extends out aside from a few championships that have one or two rounds in Europe.
It's impressive that Australia can sustain and grow such a series with such a small population as its core base.
It's impressive that Australia can sustain and grow such a series with such a small population as its core base.
ukaskew said:
It's impressive that Australia can sustain and grow such a series with such a small population as its core base.
That's because many Australian's are addicted to ANY kind of sport. For some of them there is nothing else in life!They're not really into UK Football, the Aussie football is only really popular in the West so the V8 races are there to fill the gap.
Also, a big percentage of people drive a V8 so they can watch "their car" racing at the weekend.
Colonial said:
I know I always disagree with you, but isn't this a large part of what the bathurst 12 hour sets out to do?
My mechanic is entering a Renault Clio Sport in it, as well as some other production car enduros.
I love that kind of motorsport - the production level stuff, or production with some minor enhancements. I guess it's why I like tarmac rallying so much.
I thought they were more a "modified", rather than stock cars.My mechanic is entering a Renault Clio Sport in it, as well as some other production car enduros.
I love that kind of motorsport - the production level stuff, or production with some minor enhancements. I guess it's why I like tarmac rallying so much.
Edited by Colonial on Tuesday 18th June 06:07
Unfortunately it does not get the coverage to make it well known. I guess that's a matter of there only enough people to support one class in a big way.
Is there a "fallen of my chair in amazement" smilie?
No....I think I need one.
Utterly Bonkers decision but from an entertainment point of view welcomed.
Australia may be booming but (according to family and friends there) local news isnt so favorable.
Cant wait for Motors TV to cover it but it would also be nice for a terrestrial channel to do their bit (he looks hopefully at ITV4).
No....I think I need one.
Utterly Bonkers decision but from an entertainment point of view welcomed.
Australia may be booming but (according to family and friends there) local news isnt so favorable.
Cant wait for Motors TV to cover it but it would also be nice for a terrestrial channel to do their bit (he looks hopefully at ITV4).
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