CCM Spitfire

[Rubin215]

BACK ON TOPIC.

No, I don't have one.

















But I know a man who does.

[Ed.]

Think I saw one, not sure which exactly coming off the M3 at Winchester a couple of weeks ago.

[FocusRS3]

Ed. said:

Think I saw one, not sure which exactly coming off the M3 at Winchester a couple of weeks ago.

The flat tracker versions have literally just started leaving the factory so I’m tipping it may have been the original one .

They sound great and typically Husky.

Lots of interchangeable parts to them too which stops me from getting bored and having it up for sale after 5 minutes I’m hoping

[Rubin215]

FocusRS3 said:

Ed. said:

Think I saw one, not sure which exactly coming off the M3 at Winchester a couple of weeks ago.

The flat tracker versions have literally just started leaving the factory so I’m tipping it may have been the original one .

They sound great and typically Husky.

Lots of interchangeable parts to them too which stops me from getting bored and having it up for sale after 5 minutes I’m hoping

Have you swapped the start button yet?

[FocusRS3]

Rubin215 said:

Have you swapped the start button yet?

I’ve not taken delivery yet, March Is the anticipated date .

What do you mean by ‘swapped’ ?

[Rubin215]

FocusRS3 said:

Rubin215 said:

Have you swapped the start button yet?

I’ve not taken delivery yet, March Is the anticipated date .

What do you mean by ‘swapped’ ?

Look at the start button on the bike; it is just a basic push-button.

Look at the control column (the spade) of a proper Spitfire and have a look at the fire button.
It has a ring round it that acts as the safety; when set to fire, it has a bevel for your thumb that allows you to press the button, when set to safe, the bevel is out of line with your thumb so you can't press the button by accident.





Given that it isn't exactly difficult to produce a combined start button/rotating kill-switch I'm stunned that a bike that is sold primarily on heritage and attention to detail doesn't have one.

Trick missed...?

Edited by Rubin215 on Tuesday 15th January 08:04

[FocusRS3]

Rubin215 said:

Look at the start button on the bike; it is just a basic push-button.

Look at the control column (the spade) of a proper Spitfire and have a look at the fire button.
It has a ring round it that acts as the safety; when set to fire, it has a bevel for your thumb that allows you to press the button, when set to safe, the bevel is out of line with your thumb so you can't press the button by accident.





Given that it isn't exactly difficult to produce a combined start button/rotating kill-switch I'm stunned that a bike that is sold primarily on heritage and attention to detail doesn't have one.

Trick missed...?

Edited by Rubin215 on Tuesday 15th January 08:04

Good point. I have seen a couple of vids and the actual starting isnt the easiest in that the throttle and 'fire' button is on the same side so its awkward using the throttle to help start the bike as well as holding down the 'fire' button.
I dunno maybe you get used to it easily.

[Prof Prolapse]

Biker 1 said:

Will you have to ditch craft beer & umpteen brands of limited edition flavoured gin??

Never.

You'll have to pry my bottle of "Fruity McArshole super organic authentic hops bottled piss", from my cold, dead, heavily-tattoo'd-with-pretty-pictures, hands.

[Mad Jock]

Rubin215 said:

Look at the start button on the bike; it is just a basic push-button.

Look at the control column (the spade) of a proper Spitfire and have a look at the fire button.
It has a ring round it that acts as the safety; when set to fire, it has a bevel for your thumb that allows you to press the button, when set to safe, the bevel is out of line with your thumb so you can't press the button by accident.





Given that it isn't exactly difficult to produce a combined start button/rotating kill-switch I'm stunned that a bike that is sold primarily on heritage and attention to detail doesn't have one.

Trick missed...?

Edited by Rubin215 on Tuesday 15th January 08:04

I've been looking in to this very subject, as the same thought had crossed my mind, although I wasn't aware that others had had the same. It would take a bit of machining of the billet instrument block, and I suspect would invalidate any warranty should problems arise later.

I am disappointed though that CCM didn't think of this themselves. I did suggest to them that they should have re-named the Scrambler as the Spitfire Scramble, much more appropriate given the same WWII association with the name, but it had simply not occurred to them.

The Optimate charger offered with the bike can be sourced cheaper elsewhere, but getting at the battery to fit the damn thing is a right pain, as it's under the fuel tank. Part of the Optimate package is to fit remote connectors, which I'll get done at the first service. Got mine in mid-October, had very little opportunity to ride it, and it's now tucked up inside the house.

Unless you plan to use your Flat Tracker or Café Racer on a track, I wouldn't bother with a second front disk, the single front disk is fine. The bike only weighs around 140 Kg. The same goes for the Ohlins pack, not really necessary unless you plan to really push the bike to the limit, which is really not the point for me, it's just for pootling around the B roads around East Lothian and the Borders.

Edited by Mad Jock on Tuesday 15th January 11:29

[FocusRS3]

Mad Jock said:

I've been looking in to this very subject, as the same thought had crossed my mind, although I wasn't aware that others had had the same. It would take a bit of machining of the billet instrument block, and I suspect would invalidate any warranty should problems arise later.

I am disappointed though that CCM didn't think of this themselves. I did suggest to them that they should have re-named the Scrambler as the Spitfire Scramble, much more appropriate given the same WWII association with the name, but it had simply not occurred to them.

The Optimate charger offered with the bike can be sourced cheaper elsewhere, but getting at the battery to fit the damn thing is a right pain, as it's under the fuel tank. Part of the Optimate package is to fit remote connectors, which I'll get done at the first service. Got mine in mid-October, had very little opportunity to ride it, and it's now tucked up inside the house.

Unless you plan to use your Flat Tracker or Café Racer on a track, I wouldn't bother with a second front disk, the single front disk is fine. The bike only weighs around 140 Kg. The same goes for the Ohlins pack, not really necessary unless you plan to really push the bike to the limit, which is really not the point for me, it's just for pootling around the B roads around East Lothian and the Borders.

Tks Mad Jock the sort of post i was looking for.

I've spec'd the Optimate from build as i figure it'll save a lot of messing around if the battery dies on my if not used for a period. I did have a chat with the parts guys at CCM who said the battery doesn't like being hooked up to a charger full time so suggested a timer for the charger.

I had figured the standard brakes and suspension were up to the job hence not blowing extra cash on those. I couldn't resist the Billet pack.

Did you get an accurate delivery date once you'd paid for the bike ?

[Mad Jock]

FocusRS3 said:

Tks Mad Jock the sort of post i was looking for.

I've spec'd the Optimate from build as i figure it'll save a lot of messing around if the battery dies on my if not used for a period. I did have a chat with the parts guys at CCM who said the battery doesn't like being hooked up to a charger full time so suggested a timer for the charger.

I had figured the standard brakes and suspension were up to the job hence not blowing extra cash on those. I couldn't resist the Billet pack.

Did you get an accurate delivery date once you'd paid for the bike ?

The delivery dates changed quite a lot, but CCM were still sorting out delivery problems with the fuel tanks coming from Italy, coupled with a holiday period in Italy and also trying to ramp up production to meet demand, which had caught them out. I have to say that from ordering at the Scottish Bike Show in March 2018, to delivery in October 2018 is much shorter than most, but then I had taken advantage of a cancelled order, so production was already started. I'm not sure, but they are either building the bikes in order of model release (Spitfire, Scrambler, Café Racer, Flat Tracker, Bobber), or they are building by order number, so it could be a while before you see yours. Take into consideration that because of the limited run, they have to go through a few type approval hoops etc at DVLA before the bike can be registered, and that can hold things up. They say that they are managing "up to" 20 bikes a week.

I consider myself to be very lucky, as when I managed to order mine, they had all been sold out, but for that cancelled order.

For those who dislike the bare metal frame, the latest version (Spitfire Six) has a choice of frame colours, (but not bare metal), and is a clone of the original Spitfire, but with different tank, frame and seat colours available. I believe that this version might also be available in Europe, which the previous versions were not. Whether it is limited to 250 bikes, I can't say, and it doesn't mention that at all in their brochure.

[FocusRS3]

Mad Jock said:

The delivery dates changed quite a lot, but CCM were still sorting out delivery problems with the fuel tanks coming from Italy, coupled with a holiday period in Italy and also trying to ramp up production to meet demand, which had caught them out. I have to say that from ordering at the Scottish Bike Show in March 2018, to delivery in October 2018 is much shorter than most, but then I had taken advantage of a cancelled order, so production was already started. I'm not sure, but they are either building the bikes in order of model release (Spitfire, Scrambler, Café Racer, Flat Tracker, Bobber), or they are building by order number, so it could be a while before you see yours. Take into consideration that because of the limited run, they have to go through a few type approval hoops etc at DVLA before the bike can be registered, and that can hold things up. They say that they are managing "up to" 20 bikes a week.

I consider myself to be very lucky, as when I managed to order mine, they had all been sold out, but for that cancelled order.

For those who dislike the bare metal frame, the latest version (Spitfire Six) has a choice of frame colours, (but not bare metal), and is a clone of the original Spitfire, but with different tank, frame and seat colours available. I believe that this version might also be available in Europe, which the previous versions were not. Whether it is limited to 250 bikes, I can't say, and it doesn't mention that at all in their brochure.

Great tks for this.

There doesnt seem to be any rhyme nor reason with build numbers and delivery dates as you say. I'm over bike number 150 and i'm told march whereas others who got allocated one of the first bikes have still heard nothing.

I've not heard of any major issues with the original spitfire and the 600cc husky engine should be robust enough.

Roll on March

[Krikkit]

I would guess it's related to the options picked as well - perhaps they're getting some of the "easier" orders out of the way first, or if they have quite a few billet kits but not many of the other gucci options getting those done.

I bet it's a bloody headache.

[FocusRS3]

Krikkit said:

I would guess it's related to the options picked as well - perhaps they're getting some of the "easier" orders out of the way first, or if they have quite a few billet kits but not many of the other gucci options getting those done.

I bet it's a bloody headache.

Yup fair point.
Maybe those that have ticked all the spec boxes are getting pushed back as they concentrate on at least getting some bikes out.

Hand built as well remember and they have only just increased staff numbers so there will be some bedding in of new employees.

By their own admission they never expected to be this busy

[MrOrange]

FocusRS3 said:

I'm over bike number 150 and i'm told march whereas others who got allocated one of the first bikes have still heard nothing.

That’s interesting - I’m No.158 for a FT6, with similar options to you IIRC, and I have no date or meaningful communication yet.

[FocusRS3]

MrOrange said:

That’s interesting - I’m No.158 for a FT6, with similar options to you IIRC, and I have no date or meaningful communication yet.

Best place a call to CCM.

There can be other reasons such as spec and finances although I’m not sure I understand them.

I have a feeling I’ll not see my bike till post April.

Best of luck let me know the upshot of the call pls

[Pedro1340]

Hi new member here.looking for advice from anyone who has one of these ccms,I have been offered the chance of buying a friends scramblerfor £9000.150 miles on clock.love the looks and it would be used as a summer toy.Went over to see the bike but the starting procedure was pretty involved,fiddling around under the seat and juggling with the cold start lever ,,seemed a bit hit or miss..don’t want to end up spending 10mins farting about trying to get moving every ride..thanks for any personal experience update,,peter

[FocusRS3]

Pedro1340 said:

Hi new member here.looking for advice from anyone who has one of these ccms,I have been offered the chance of buying a friends scramblerfor £9000.150 miles on clock.love the looks and it would be used as a summer toy.Went over to see the bike but the starting procedure was pretty involved,fiddling around under the seat and juggling with the cold start lever ,,seemed a bit hit or miss..don’t want to end up spending 10mins farting about trying to get moving every ride..thanks for any personal experience update,,peter

9K sounds good although be good to know what he paid for it and why he's selling after just 150 miles?

Starting is like anything, you get used to it after a few goes.

Most flood the cr4p out of them by using too much choke and its just not needed.

The seat thing is just the on switch so i cant see that as hassle personally.

These bikes arent offered in abundance so it seems a very good deal to me

[Pedro1340]

Yes I thought the fob was held against the back of the seat but the fob is placed under the seat to activate it.My mate has 3 other bikes and is getting rid of it to but a new speed twin to use for every day transport.The spitfire was purchased at cost price as he joined the waiting list as soon as it was open.Only change I would make is rear hugger,,sprocket cover,and battery charge lead,,very tempted

[FocusRS3]

Pedro1340 said:

Yes I thought the fob was held against the back of the seat but the fob is placed under the seat to activate it.My mate has 3 other bikes and is getting rid of it to but a new speed twin to use for every day transport.The spitfire was purchased at cost price as he joined the waiting list as soon as it was open.Only change I would make is rear hugger,,sprocket cover,and battery charge lead,,very tempted

Whats your downside you cant buy them anymore new they are all sold out and most are asking a premium. You will also own something very different that i'm sure is still 9k in a year or so's time.

If i hadn't already ordered and paid for a flat tracker i'd have it.