why are cherrybomb exhausts hated so much?
why are cherrybomb exhausts hated so much?
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anonymous-user

76 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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DeejRC said:
Besides, as everybody knows - real TVRs were all pre-cats... ????
Its not the de catting. That gives a modest effect. Its removing / bypassing the silencer, or replacing with a cherry bomb that makes the big step up in noise. That's what this thread is about. I mentioned de catting as it's almost always part of the process.

My old 400SE was pre-cat and sounded much nicer than my Griff 500. Hence I was tempted with the de catting idea , but I just cant find any 400/ 500 de cat videos where they have not also sleeved the silencer, removed it or cherry bombed it. Which put me off. Way too loud. Imho.

Adrian250

167 posts

150 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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Who remembers the Peko Big Bore 4?!!

aeropilot

39,331 posts

249 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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Chris32345 said:
Because they are are always fitted to something with a small low displacement engine nobody's cares about

If I hear. A noisy exhaust I want to see a nice car when I turn around
E.g lambo high end Audi arbarth something sporty not a clapped out Corsa with a body kit on
Yep.

Proper US made Cherrybomb (or Smithy's etc, etc) glasspack mufflers give a proper old 60's style sound to a proper engine......



Drooles

1,510 posts

78 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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Adrian250 said:
Who remembers the Peko Big Bore 4?!!
I had a Peco on my Mini in 1996!

anonymous-user

76 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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ging84 said:
They make a car sound faster (to some extent) but rarely make it actually faster, that's not going to go down with enthusiasts of performance, they make a load of noise are are generally illegal, that doesn't go down well with those who are not motoring enthusiasts.
And yet almost all modified cars have a replacement exhaust that is louder, and often contributes nothing but extra noise. Some cars even have that ability as standard with the bypass flaps in the exhaust, sport modes etc.

Most people, if they are honest, would admit that making your car louder makes it more fun to drive. Many are too silent as standard, especially newer cars with sporting aspirations. The exhaust noise of a Lambo or Ferrari, or even an MX5 or a Fiat 500, contributes much to the appeal. We can't all afford a Ferrari so we make do and modify what we do have.

Proper petrolheads understand this, and have probably done it too.

Sadly PH is now filled with a lot of people who have disappeared so far up their own backsides that they have lost all sight of what makes cars appeal to people.

anonymous-user

76 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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Adrian250 said:
Who remembers the Peko Big Bore 4?!!
I'm embarrassed to admit I had one on an otherwise standard 1.3 Escort. Black paint, white hubcaps, 4 inch exhaust. What a pillock

pidsy

8,569 posts

179 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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eliot said:
UnderSteerD said:
Do they still exist? I haven't seen, heard or heard of a cherry bomb for years.
Still being made and sold:
https://www.cherrybomb.co.uk/epages/wduqaub4xva7.m...
Genuinely surprised at that. I thought they died out with all the XR3i’s in the 80’s and early 90’s.

cerb4.5lee

40,917 posts

202 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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JimSuperSix said:
ging84 said:
They make a car sound faster (to some extent) but rarely make it actually faster, that's not going to go down with enthusiasts of performance, they make a load of noise are are generally illegal, that doesn't go down well with those who are not motoring enthusiasts.
And yet almost all modified cars have a replacement exhaust that is louder, and often contributes nothing but extra noise. Some cars even have that ability as standard with the bypass flaps in the exhaust, sport modes etc.

Most people, if they are honest, would admit that making your car louder makes it more fun to drive. Many are too silent as standard, especially newer cars with sporting aspirations. The exhaust noise of a Lambo or Ferrari, or even an MX5 or a Fiat 500, contributes much to the appeal. We can't all afford a Ferrari so we make do and modify what we do have.

Proper petrolheads understand this, and have probably done it too.

Sadly PH is now filled with a lot of people who have disappeared so far up their own backsides that they have lost all sight of what makes cars appeal to people.
When I was looking to buy my 370Z I didn't want one that was standard for the reasons you mention(far too quiet). It has high flow cats and a custom made full exhaust on It. It is a bit too loud to use everyday(it drones like mad and is very boomy), but it does put a big smile on my face(I love driving it) because the sound a car makes is one of the most favourite bits for me.

Hence why TVR is one of my favourite marques because they all make a nice(loud) noise. I've had two V8 Bmw's and you couldn't even hear the exhaust when you were driving them. frown

The Li-ion King

3,777 posts

86 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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roscobbc said:
robbor said:
everytime I hear about a cherrybomb, universal hate. for someone who has no idea about them, why the hate?
Cherry Bombs related to currently are not the 'real' thing - same as Thrush Mufflers.......poor facsimile of what once was 50 years ago.
https://cherrybombusa.com/glasspack-mufflers.html
https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/1928010984...
I'm no obstetrician, but muffling thrush doesn't sound like a good idea getmecoat

anonymous-user

76 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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JimSuperSix said:
Most people, if they are honest, would admit that making your car louder makes it more fun to drive. Many are too silent as standard, especially newer cars with sporting aspirations. The exhaust noise of a Lambo or Ferrari, or even an MX5 or a Fiat 500, contributes much to the appeal. We can't all afford a Ferrari so we make do and modify what we do have.

Proper petrolheads understand this, and have probably done it too.

Sadly PH is now filled with a lot of people who have disappeared so far up their own backsides that they have lost all sight of what makes cars appeal to people.
I agree with all of this! Its easy to turn your nose up at someone with a loud, st exhaust, but ultimately it is more fun to drive when you can hear it. Granted its annoying for others, but who can honestly say they cared about that when they were teens

anonymous-user

76 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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RogerDodger said:
Its not the de catting. That gives a modest effect. Its removing / bypassing the silencer, or replacing with a cherry bomb that makes the big step up in noise. That's what this thread is about. I mentioned de catting as it's almost always part of the process.

My old 400SE was pre-cat and sounded much nicer than my Griff 500. Hence I was tempted with the de catting idea , but I just cant find any 400/ 500 de cat videos where they have not also sleeved the silencer, removed it or cherry bombed it. Which put me off. Way too loud. Imho.
I had just the cherry bomb system, not loud enough, added Clive Y. Nice, but still a bit tame. Removed pre-cats, just about perfect.

It’s not that loud compared to the likes of a chav’d up Audi fart box, and unlike anything modern makes real pops and bangs on demand biggrin

anonymous-user

76 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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Many 4 cylinder cars have an awful exhaust note and I don't see why anyone would want to amplify it! Induction, by all means.

anonymous-user

76 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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cerb4.5lee said:
When I was looking to buy my 370Z I didn't want one that was standard for the reasons you mention(far too quiet). It has high flow cats and a custom made full exhaust on It. It is a bit too loud to use everyday(it drones like mad and is very boomy), but it does put a big smile on my face(I love driving it) because the sound a car makes is one of the most favourite bits for me.

Hence why TVR is one of my favourite marques because they all make a nice(loud) noise. I've had two V8 Bmw's and you couldn't even hear the exhaust when you were driving them. frown
The 360 with a free flowing exhaust sounds lovely. Can be very annoying at 70 though

anonymous-user

76 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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yonex said:
I had just the cherry bomb system, not loud enough, added Clive Y. Nice, but still a bit tame. Removed pre-cats, just about perfect.

It’s not that loud compared to the likes of a chav’d up Audi fart box, and unlike anything modern makes real pops and bangs on demand biggrin
Weren't you selling that y piece to me? :-)

anonymous-user

76 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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JimSuperSix said:
And yet almost all modified cars have a replacement exhaust that is louder, and often contributes nothing but extra noise. Some cars even have that ability as standard with the bypass flaps in the exhaust, sport modes etc.

Most people, if they are honest, would admit that making your car louder makes it more fun to drive. Many are too silent as standard, especially newer cars with sporting aspirations. The exhaust noise of a Lambo or Ferrari, or even an MX5 or a Fiat 500, contributes much to the appeal. We can't all afford a Ferrari so we make do and modify what we do have.

Proper petrolheads understand this, and have probably done it too.

Sadly PH is now filled with a lot of people who have disappeared so far up their own backsides that they have lost all sight of what makes cars appeal to people.
To a point, but I soon found on my old mini that the big bore system droned on and on, and added little , if any power. I spent a lot of time trying to shut it up. I'll not deny at first it felt a little epic.

My 996 had the sports button for the exhaust - bypass valve. I found it embarrassing.

My mate has a TCR and when it's in full sports mode the exhaust note through the stereo is cringe and annoying after a short while.

I guess it's all about authenticity. We love the howl of a lambo V10 because we know it's a high revving powerful beast. The sound is it's heart, and a product of its function.

A "howling" hot hatch is just pretending and unecessary.


anonymous-user

76 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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RogerDodger said:
Weren't you selling that y piece to me? :-)
Yes, it’ll be off when the CF manifold comes smile

BigsimonY

634 posts

147 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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Loved my cherry bomb on my XR2 in the 90s...... 😅 😅 😅

vixen1700

27,567 posts

292 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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There's a bloke from Austria on the Facebook Chimaera group with a 500 fitted with Clive Ford's Y piece, manifolds and cherry bomb system.

Sounds just about perfect. No chaviness or tug boat sounding sleeved exhaust there. smile

anonymous-user

76 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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I’ll upload the Griff exhaust later smile

Mikebentley

8,171 posts

162 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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hucumber said:
Adrian250 said:
Who remembers the Peko Big Bore 4?!!
I'm embarrassed to admit I had one on an otherwise standard 1.3 Escort. Black paint, white hubcaps, 4 inch exhaust. What a pillock
I think for the real “noise” you required the Peco back box with twin upswept tail pipes. About 1984 these were the thing to have. Mate had one on a tuned 1275Gt and I think it added about 2000hp,.....