PG WW2 films
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Wacky Racer

40,308 posts

267 months

Thursday 30th April 2020
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Beati Dogu said:
Sink The Bismark
The Cruel Sea
The Long And The Short And The Tall

All PG I believe.
Full Sink the Bismarck film here:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cFOAG0wfBw&t=...

durbster

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11,622 posts

242 months

Friday 1st May 2020
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OK, tried Dunkirk last night and he was engaged and asking questions about what was going on for the first half hour, so it seemed about right.

Until the scenes when there were people trapped inside a sinking ship. He started to get uncomfortable with that so we switched it off.

It's good to know where the line is although I might have put him off the idea entirely. whistle

aeropilot

39,082 posts

247 months

Friday 1st May 2020
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durbster said:
OK, tried Dunkirk last night and he was engaged and asking questions about what was going on for the first half hour, so it seemed about right.

Until the scenes when there were people trapped inside a sinking ship. He started to get uncomfortable with that so we switched it off.
Err........when people here suggested Dunkirk, they meant the proper Dunkirk film made in the 1950's starring John Mills, not the awful recent film by the same name, that came out a couple of years ago!


Voldemort

7,122 posts

298 months

Friday 1st May 2020
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aeropilot said:
durbster said:
OK, tried Dunkirk last night and he was engaged and asking questions about what was going on for the first half hour, so it seemed about right.

Until the scenes when there were people trapped inside a sinking ship. He started to get uncomfortable with that so we switched it off.
Err........when people here suggested Dunkirk, they meant the proper Dunkirk film made in the 1950's starring John Mills, not the awful recent film by the same name, that came out a couple of years ago!
Ironically OP himself suggested Dunkirk. And now knows why it was certified 12.

Eric Mc

124,451 posts

285 months

Friday 1st May 2020
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Dr Jekyll said:
Battle of Britain is a good one.

Exciting to watch, but also informative about what the battle was all about. I saw it when I was about 9 (Dominion cinema Tottenham court road), enjoyed it and learnt from it.
I was 10 when I saw it in the cinema on first release and loved it instantly. I still watch it regularly.

Eric Mc

124,451 posts

285 months

Friday 1st May 2020
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Voldemort said:
aeropilot said:
durbster said:
OK, tried Dunkirk last night and he was engaged and asking questions about what was going on for the first half hour, so it seemed about right.

Until the scenes when there were people trapped inside a sinking ship. He started to get uncomfortable with that so we switched it off.
Err........when people here suggested Dunkirk, they meant the proper Dunkirk film made in the 1950's starring John Mills, not the awful recent film by the same name, that came out a couple of years ago!
Ironically OP himself suggested Dunkirk. And now knows why it was certified 12.
The original black and white film was made in 1958 and is an honest and reasonably accurate portrayal of what happened.

A Winner Is You

25,726 posts

247 months

Friday 1st May 2020
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Where Eagles Dare? I can't remember if it has any swearing, but if you go on IMDB there's a parents section which will list any potentially unsuitable content.

irocfan

45,691 posts

210 months

Friday 1st May 2020
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A Winner Is You said:
Where Eagles Dare? I can't remember if it has any swearing, but if you go on IMDB there's a parents section which will list any potentially unsuitable content.
historically accurate it is not though! hehe

Eric Mc

124,451 posts

285 months

Friday 1st May 2020
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A Winner Is You said:
Where Eagles Dare? I can't remember if it has any swearing, but if you go on IMDB there's a parents section which will list any potentially unsuitable content.
As a World War 2 film, it's absolute ste.

As a comic book adventure yarn, it's passable.

yellowjack

17,944 posts

186 months

Friday 1st May 2020
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Eric Mc said:
A Winner Is You said:
Where Eagles Dare? I can't remember if it has any swearing, but if you go on IMDB there's a parents section which will list any potentially unsuitable content.
As a World War 2 film, it's absolute ste.

As a comic book adventure yarn, it's passable.
What Eric said. It's definitively NOT a "war film". It's an action adventure cum spy thriller set in wartime. Typical Alistair MacLean fodder really, much like t'other one he screenplayed, Guns Of Navarone.

Some of the older films are the best war films. There was a sense of realism in them (aside from the effects) due to having the real people involved in those operations as the historical/technical advisers. And in some cases actors who where there at the time, albeit playing different roles to their "real life" roles.

Striking a chord with me?

A Bridge Too Far
The Longest Day
Battle Of The River Plate
Battle Of Britain
Dunkirk (1958 version)
(possibly worth digging around for these, and a few of the others mentioned, and perhaps watching them in the proper timeline order?)

And forgetting his 60s spy thrillers and the cheese-fest comedy Kelly's Heroes, Clint Eastwood (as director) later made two brilliant war films, Flags Of Our Fathers and Letters From Iwo Jima. Although they were 'R' rated in the US (no-one under 17 without a parent/guardian), broadly equal to a '15' certificate here in the UK.

wisbech

3,855 posts

141 months

Friday 1st May 2020
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Grave of the Fireflies. It’s a cartoon, and it is about kids. PG and it will ensure he never thinks war is noble.

aeropilot

39,082 posts

247 months

Friday 1st May 2020
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irocfan said:
A Winner Is You said:
Where Eagles Dare? I can't remember if it has any swearing, but if you go on IMDB there's a parents section which will list any potentially unsuitable content.
historically accurate it is not though! hehe
Its not supposed to be, and never had any intention of being so.

Its an Alstair MacLean adventure thriller that happens to be set in a WW2 backdrop.

Its no more historically inaccurate than many other WW2 films of the period such as 633 Squadron or others.


sgtBerbatov

2,597 posts

101 months

Friday 1st May 2020
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Wacky Racer said:
sgtBerbatov said:

The Keeper (about Bert Trautman, his book is brilliant by the way)


smile

The Pianist.....Bit gruesome in parts but shows reality of life in the Warsaw ghetto.

Went the day well?

The Cruel sea.
To quote Bert.... INCREDIBLE! Everything was incredible!

crofty1984

16,666 posts

224 months

Friday 1st May 2020
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The Great dictator

Simpo Two

90,500 posts

285 months

Friday 1st May 2020
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durbster said:
Our 9 year old is learning about World War 2 at the moment and we were just trying to think of films that might be suitable to watch to help get him interested.

I can't imagine cheesy old stuff like The Dirty Dozen would appeal and he's too young for the sheer brutality of something like Saving Private Ryan, so what's out there that sits somewhere in the middle of that scale?

Current list:
Enemy at the Gates - it's a 15 but I can't remember why
Dunkirk - probably too slow
The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas
Any film is going to be selective at best and fanciful at worst.

The best thing, if they want to learn about WW2 without sensationalism, would be the 'World at War' series narrated by Laurence Olivier. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b4g4ZZNC1E&li...

But hardly suitable for a 9 year old who should, IMHO, be watching children's TV.

I imagine a modern 'perspective' of WW2 would be 60% Holocaust, 30% D-Day and 10% Battle of Britain, not much else.

durbster

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11,622 posts

242 months

Friday 1st May 2020
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aeropilot said:
durbster said:
OK, tried Dunkirk last night and he was engaged and asking questions about what was going on for the first half hour, so it seemed about right.

Until the scenes when there were people trapped inside a sinking ship. He started to get uncomfortable with that so we switched it off.
Err........when people here suggested Dunkirk, they meant the proper Dunkirk film made in the 1950's starring John Mills, not the awful recent film by the same name, that came out a couple of years ago!
Oh I know, it was my own suggestion and an experiment. smile

Ahonen

5,031 posts

299 months

Friday 1st May 2020
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aeropilot said:
Esceptico said:
I think good films for 9 year olds are going to be thin on the ground. Anything that will be a good film about the war, like Das Boot, will likely bore him to tears. Films that will be fun to watch eg Where Eagles Dare won’t teach him much.
At that age, its not about teaching.....its about capturing the interest at a young age enough that when he's older, he'll be able to watch and understand documentaries which is what will teach, not Hollywood.
Agreed. When I was around 8 or 9 I saw Where Eagles Dare for the first time and it had a huge impact on me, sparking a fascination with WW2 that has remained to this day. Ingrid Pitt also had quite an impact, understandably.

aeropilot

39,082 posts

247 months

Friday 1st May 2020
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Ahonen said:
aeropilot said:
Esceptico said:
I think good films for 9 year olds are going to be thin on the ground. Anything that will be a good film about the war, like Das Boot, will likely bore him to tears. Films that will be fun to watch eg Where Eagles Dare won’t teach him much.
At that age, its not about teaching.....its about capturing the interest at a young age enough that when he's older, he'll be able to watch and understand documentaries which is what will teach, not Hollywood.
Agreed. When I was around 8 or 9 I saw Where Eagles Dare for the first time and it had a huge impact on me, sparking a fascination with WW2 that has remained to this day. Ingrid Pitt also had quite an impact, understandably.
hehe

Likewise.

"And what a disguise" biggrin

Still one of my favourite WW2 films even 45 years after first seeing it.



Ahonen

5,031 posts

299 months

Friday 1st May 2020
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aeropilot said:
hehe

Likewise.

"And what a disguise" biggrin

Still one of my favourite WW2 films even 45 years after first seeing it.
Same. The opening music and accompanying footage are perfect, too. I was just reading that the village scenes were filmed in Lofer in Austria, which I've driven through many times to go skiing in Zell am See and Ski Welt but never knew the significance. Next time...


Edited by Ahonen on Friday 1st May 15:53

sinbaddio

2,714 posts

196 months

Friday 1st May 2020
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Hope & Glory is the one for you and your son.

Written, directed and produced by John Boorman (Point Blank, Deliverance etc) - it's his memory of living through the Blitz as a ten year old boy. Don't recall their being much war action, but it's interesting to see how life was affected back in England.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope_and_Glory_(film...