Top level footballers' pay is now simply obscene.

[CoolHands]

If they didn’t get it the club would just earn more. Ie someone’s getting it whether it be the club, investors, or the players. It won’t be going back to the fans so it makes sense for players to max their value. Without them there wouldn’t be the fans and money etc

[MrJuice]

Agents earn enormous money by signing up young talent when said talent know jack st. Bit like selling student loans to 17 year olds IMO

Football agent industry needs reform and regulation IMO

[Police State]

BroadsRS6 said:

Yes i've heard all the counter arguments about a brief 15 year career and ''good luck if they can get it'', etc.
BUT.

Ronaldo now gets a A MILLION pounds per Instagram advert on his page. That's on top of the Facebook, Twitter and other online earnings. Then there is the money he earns for, erm, oh yes, being him, whatever they call that now. Add in the £500,000 he charges to open a big shop or centre, etc. and of course add in the million pounds a fortnight for playing football. Mental!
Rashford has total income around a million pounds a month, as another example.

People tell me that their boot deal worth often 10 million quid a year is not at the expense of anyone and good luck to him. Actually it's hard up parents paying way over the odds for his boots who suffer whilst he collects telephone number money without leaving his bed.
Ronaldo (countless other players are on insane money too) made 12 million pounds in 24 hours last month and was out of his house for an hour that day.
The pie is only so big, it's time the stupidly wealthy paid a lot more to the have nots and have little.
This from someone far enough right that i've been called a Nazi by wokes in the past.

Here's the fundamental issue in one simple short video. Watch to the end, and compare the 'before' and 'after' phenomenon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKr-U1r1AlM

[Evanivitch]

Out of interest, what is not obscene wage and who's allowed to earn it?

[untakenname]

The wages will likely reduce in the future as youngsters aren't interested as older generations in mainstream sports.
Was in the park when the first England game was on and it was only youngsters around all the older people were inside watching.




https://morningconsult.com/2020/09/28/gen-z-poll-s...

[btdk5]

untakenname said:

The wages will likely reduce in the future as youngsters aren't interested as older generations in mainstream sports.
Was in the park when the first England game was on and it was only youngsters around all the older people were inside watching.




https://morningconsult.com/2020/09/28/gen-z-poll-s...

How can they ask over twice the number of adults than Gen Z participants and extrapolate the results out against each other

[beambeam1]

What irks me more is that further down the chain, the sport scientists, physios and all sorts of staff that keep a club ticking over get very little in the way of salary. Heads of departments often compensated OK but it can be grim for some even at premiership level clubs.

[AW111]

btdk5 said:

untakenname said:

The wages will likely reduce in the future as youngsters aren't interested as older generations in mainstream sports.
Was in the park when the first England game was on and it was only youngsters around all the older people were inside watching.




https://morningconsult.com/2020/09/28/gen-z-poll-s...

How can they ask over twice the number of adults than Gen Z participants and extrapolate the results out against each other

I watch when my team's matches are televised - which isn't every week, and the season isn't year-long.
And test matches.

What option am I supposed to chose?

[anonymous-user]

JeffreyD said:

ambuletz said:

all of whats been mentioned is marketing. what people are willing to pay. How much does he (or others) get paid to kick the ball around for their country?

England players get around 2k a match but they donate it to a charity. (Or they did a few years ago at least)

Which was their way of saying they regard £2k as loose change.

[Voldemort]

I'm guessing that the renumeration package for the board members of, say, Halliburton or Shell Oil, make the footballers look like paupers.

[Blib]

I blame Jimmy Hill.

[hyphen]

BroadsRS6 said:

it's time the stupidly wealthy paid a lot more to the have nots and have little

That's a question over taxation, not earnings.

The OPs post is off the mark, as Ronaldo isn't an employer making money off the work of employees. He is getting paid for his own services, as are other footballers.

Modern Capitalism is essentially about the exploitation of the stupid & human nature as a whole.

Most people have dull uninteresting lives, or if Instagram are young and learning. They want to see Ronaldo or Kardashians and are shown to react positively to whatever brand or product the person they 'follow uses.

Companies don't pay unless they get multiples of that money back on that spend.

OP, don't hate the players, hate the game. The Fans are the ones who are driving all pay levels.

We live in a consumer system, people get money and spend money. And everyone fights to be the one the money is spent on. Football fans at times have risen up against price increases and the clubs have backed down, as that is ultimately what it's about, finding the maximum a person is willing to pay and trying to ensure they don't pay a penny less.

If people click on Ronaldo on Instagram and watch and buy whatever he is associating with, then he provided a service that companies will pay for.

Edited by hyphen on Monday 5th July 07:14

[MrJuice]

hyphen said:

OP, don't hate the players, hate the game. The Fans are the ones who are driving all pay levels.

This is the long and short of it

I do not want to be a part of this and gave up following football about ten years ago. Everything is just too distastefully commercial

[200Plus Club]

Blib said:

I blame Jimmy Hill.

How did repeatedly slapping that little bald fella on the nut create this scenario though?.....

[CustardOnChips]

Where do you draw the line?

Surely anyone who can afford an RS6 and multiple other cars has too much money. Why not sell them and give some of your money to poorer people?

[greygoose]

CustardOnChips said:

Where do you draw the line?

Surely anyone who can afford an RS6 and multiple other cars has too much money. Why not sell them and give some of your money to poorer people?

I think with RS6s that the poor people come and take the car themselves to save you the bother.

Ronaldo getting loads of cash to market stuff doesn't bother me, at least he has a talent and works hard to maintain it, I struggle with the "social media influencers" who appear to have no talent at all yet somehow influence the youth of today.

[anonymous-user]

Wacky Racer said:

Good luck to them, it's a short career.

In the 1950's top stars were earning £15pw playing in front of 60,000 every week, Bert Trautmann used to travel to games with fans on the bus.

80s/90s Forest and England player Neil Webb became a postie after his management career fell through in 2000.

[hyphen]

greygoose said:

I struggle with the "social media influencers" who appear to have no talent at all yet somehow influence the youth of today.

They do have a talent, you just dont see it.

The influencers who get to the top and actually make real money have out competed the millions of their peers.

No real difference between 20 million pretty women, but only a handful take all the followers. Getting on top takes some luck, staying on top takes hard work.

These people are street smart, they understand what the followers want and generate the content to keep them addicted.

Edited by hyphen on Monday 5th July 08:18

[greygoose]

Newarch said:

Wacky Racer said:

Good luck to them, it's a short career.

In the 1950's top stars were earning £15pw playing in front of 60,000 every week, Bert Trautmann used to travel to games with fans on the bus.

80s/90s Forest and England player Neil Webb became a postie after his management career fell through in 2000.

He took "you're getting the sack" a bit too literally.

[anonymous-user]

greygoose said:

Newarch said:

Wacky Racer said:

Good luck to them, it's a short career.

In the 1950's top stars were earning £15pw playing in front of 60,000 every week, Bert Trautmann used to travel to games with fans on the bus.

80s/90s Forest and England player Neil Webb became a postie after his management career fell through in 2000.

He took "you're getting the sack" a bit too literally.

I just can't imagine any modern player doing anything so mundane once their playing days are over. I'm sure some people do, I know people who could have retired at 40 but work because they enjoy it and it brings structure to their lives.