Fascinating F1 Facts
Fascinating F1 Facts
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BrettMRC

5,782 posts

186 months

Monday 9th December 2024
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Supersam83 said:
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Hans Heyer is the only driver to be credited with a DNQ (Did Not Qualify), DNF (Did Not Finish), and DSQ (Disqualified) in the same race.

He didn't qualify for the 1977 German Grand Prix, so he snuck his car onto the track and raced 10 laps. Only when his gearbox jammed (he couldn't finish the race) did the officials realise what he had done, and disqualified him.

In the process, he earned himself a lifetime ban from Formula One. He's still alive, so the ban is still in effect. biggrin
That's a proper stat! hehe

TikTak

2,914 posts

45 months

Monday 9th December 2024
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BrettMRC said:
Supersam83 said:
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Hans Heyer is the only driver to be credited with a DNQ (Did Not Qualify), DNF (Did Not Finish), and DSQ (Disqualified) in the same race.

He didn't qualify for the 1977 German Grand Prix, so he snuck his car onto the track and raced 10 laps. Only when his gearbox jammed (he couldn't finish the race) did the officials realise what he had done, and disqualified him.

In the process, he earned himself a lifetime ban from Formula One. He's still alive, so the ban is still in effect. biggrin
That's a proper stat! hehe
That's brilliant. biggrin

coppice

9,637 posts

170 months

Monday 9th December 2024
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ralphrj said:
The WDC trophy only dates back to 1995/96 and was created by Bernie specifically because there was no WDC trophy.

This doesn't mean that Nina Rindt wasn't given something to commemorate her husband's posthumous title but it wasn't the WDC trophy.
And here it is. Looking like a trophy, if not Bernie's bauble!

ralphrj

4,018 posts

217 months

Monday 9th December 2024
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coppice said:
ralphrj said:
The WDC trophy only dates back to 1995/96 and was created by Bernie specifically because there was no WDC trophy.

This doesn't mean that Nina Rindt wasn't given something to commemorate her husband's posthumous title but it wasn't the WDC trophy.
And here it is. Looking like a trophy, if not Bernie's bauble!
It certainly is a trophy but it isn't the WDC trophy which was commissioned in 1995.


TwentyFive

366 posts

92 months

Monday 9th December 2024
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My favourite one is that you have to go all the way back to 1978 to find an F1 grid without a driver that raced against Michael Schumacher in F1. Ricardo Patrese started that run, and it continues 46 years later.

thegreenhell

22,806 posts

245 months

Monday 9th December 2024
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ralphrj said:
It certainly is a trophy but it isn't the WDC trophy which was commissioned in 1995.

You mean it wasn't the current WDC trophy. The trophy presented for winning the WDC is by definition the WDC trophy, even if the trophy was different every year. Physical trophies can change over time, but the symbolism and meaning is the same.

Similarly, when England won the football world cup in 1966 they were presented with the world cup trophy, but it wasn't the current world cup trophy.

Dynion Araf Uchaf

5,127 posts

249 months

Monday 9th December 2024
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StevieBee said:
All of the used F1 tyres are shipped to a concrete making factory in Didcot where they're used as fuel to make concrete. The process of turning them into a fuel creates secondary materials that are used in the manufacture of flooring materials.

Tyrrell failed to score sufficient points to trigger prize money payments one year, banking on a good final race in Adelaide to at least earn enough to cover the airfreight back to the UK. They didn't. So they broke the cars down and team members checked the various parts in as luggage (hold and carry-on).
not sure this is a concrete making factory

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.6183949,-1.2475591...

Halmyre

12,430 posts

165 months

Monday 9th December 2024
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CanAm said:
This is the entire D W Racing Enterprises (ie Bob Anderson!) transport fleet at Zandvoort in 1964. Bob managed 3rd place in the Austrian GP at Zeltweg that year.
Imagine the handling characteristics of that VW Transporter... eek

Supersam83 said:
Nico Rosberg never drove an F1 race as a world champion.
Neither did Mike Hawthorn or Jochen Rindt.

Alfa numeric

3,162 posts

205 months

Monday 9th December 2024
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HAAS is the only team currently on the grid that hasn't won a race at some point in its history.

Max Verstappen is the first WDC not to have raced against Michael Schumacher since Nikki Lauda (1984).

CanAm

13,523 posts

298 months

Monday 9th December 2024
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Thinking about Bob Anderson (above) and his 2 mechanics, and the McLaren team photo yesterday, I wonder if there were more personnel there than the total of all the teams in the 60s?


Sandpit Steve

14,234 posts

100 months

Monday 9th December 2024
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Alfa numeric said:
HAAS is the only team currently on the grid that hasn't won a race at some point in its history.

Max Verstappen is the first WDC not to have raced against Michael Schumacher since Nikki Lauda (1984).
There should be some good future stats for drivers who raced against Alonso or Hamilton as well.

Wiki has a good list of race records:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_...

Some good ones there:
Jenson Button was once ordered to start a race 70 places behind his qualifying position, for breaching rules related to reliability of power unit components.

The closest finish with modern timing was at the 2002 USA Grand Prix, where team-mates Barichello and Schumacher crossed the line only 11ms apart. They were trying to engineer a dead heat, and the crowd weren’t too happy about it.

At the 1995 Australian Grand Prix, Damon Hill won the race by two clear laps from everyone else.

StevieBee

15,091 posts

281 months

Monday 9th December 2024
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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
StevieBee said:
All of the used F1 tyres are shipped to a concrete making factory in Didcot where they're used as fuel to make concrete. The process of turning them into a fuel creates secondary materials that are used in the manufacture of flooring materials.

Tyrrell failed to score sufficient points to trigger prize money payments one year, banking on a good final race in Adelaide to at least earn enough to cover the airfreight back to the UK. They didn't. So they broke the cars down and team members checked the various parts in as luggage (hold and carry-on).
not sure this is a concrete making factory

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.6183949,-1.2475591...
That's the depot where they're sent to. They're turned into pellets there and shipped down the road to the concrete place.

Leithen

13,844 posts

293 months

Monday 9th December 2024
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CT05 Nose Cone said:
The 1953 Argentinian GP ran clockwise, the 1954 race counter clockwise, then back to clockwise the next year, which is the only time this has happened on the same circuit layout.

Life Racing are the only team to use a W12 engined F1 car (and failed to qualify for a single race)
Dad was at the ‘54 race.

williamp

20,230 posts

299 months

Monday 9th December 2024
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Alfa numeric said:
HAAS is the only team currently on the grid that hasn't won a race at some point in its history.

Max Verstappen is the first WDC not to have raced against Michael Schumacher since Nikki Lauda (1984).
Aston Martin have never won an F1 race

Teppic

7,993 posts

283 months

Monday 9th December 2024
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At Lewis Hamilton’s last race with McLaren (Brazil 2012) -

- Red Bull’s multiple-time world champion (Vettel) collided with another car and spun on the opening lap, and recovered to finish P6.
- Sergio Perez retired on the opening lap.
- A British driver (Button) secures victory for McLaren.
- A Spanish driver (Alonso) takes 2nd in a Ferrari.
- The other Ferrari (Massa) finished 3rd to complete the podium.

At Lewis Hamilton’s last race with Mercedes (Abu Dhabi 2024) -

- Red Bull’s multiple-time world champion (Verstappen) collided with another car and spun on the opening lap, and recovered to finish P6.
- Sergio Perez retired on the opening lap.
- A British driver (Norris) secures victory for McLaren.
- A Spanish driver (Sainz) takes 2nd in a Ferrari.
- The other Ferrari (Leclerc) finished 3rd to complete the podium.

thegreenhell

22,806 posts

245 months

Monday 9th December 2024
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williamp said:
Aston Martin have never won an F1 race
They won as Racing Point and Jordan. The company is still registered as Racing Point.

Nova Gyna

3,157 posts

52 months

Monday 9th December 2024
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Rotary Potato said:
Speed Badger said:
Apparently Pierre Gasly made history at the 2024 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix by achieving a unique feat. The Alpine driver etched his name in F1 history by becoming the first driver to have incurred £0 in damages over a season.
Doubley impressive when you consider for 23 of the 24 races, his team mate was Ocon. And we all know how much that man enjoys a side-swipe at a team mate! smile
Seems to be some chatter that he took a new floor in Japan, and new front wing at Monaco after colliding with his BFF Ocon scratchchin

Speed Badger

3,638 posts

143 months

Monday 9th December 2024
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Alfa numeric said:
HAAS is the only team currently on the grid that hasn't won a race at some point in its history.
Has Sauber won a race?

thegreenhell

22,806 posts

245 months

Monday 9th December 2024
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Speed Badger said:
Alfa numeric said:
HAAS is the only team currently on the grid that hasn't won a race at some point in its history.
Has Sauber won a race?
BMW-Sauber won a single race with Kubica.

DanielSan

19,914 posts

193 months

Monday 9th December 2024
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StevieBee said:
Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
StevieBee said:
All of the used F1 tyres are shipped to a concrete making factory in Didcot where they're used as fuel to make concrete. The process of turning them into a fuel creates secondary materials that are used in the manufacture of flooring materials.

Tyrrell failed to score sufficient points to trigger prize money payments one year, banking on a good final race in Adelaide to at least earn enough to cover the airfreight back to the UK. They didn't. So they broke the cars down and team members checked the various parts in as luggage (hold and carry-on).
not sure this is a concrete making factory

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.6183949,-1.2475591...
That's the depot where they're sent to. They're turned into pellets there and shipped down the road to the concrete place.
There's a few concrete plants that do the same thing. The place i used to work chipped all of Bridgestone's tyres a while before I started there. A lot of old tyres in general end up that way.