Military Police Powers?

[stemll]

flemke said:

stemll said:

I was stopped at a roadblock in Aldershot Military Town years back with a boot full of a whole team's cricket kit. Got out and the soldier asked me to open the boot. He took one look and went "Aw Fck!"

Ever seen a squaddie try to search a boot full of bags with a gun in one hand. Took him forever.

He must have been too proud to ask you to hold the gun for him.

Considered offering and then thought better of it.

[thinfourth2]

Jasandjules said:

fizz876 said:

I was driving on the M40 the other day and off in the distance I saw a blue police car with all the livery with blue lights like any other normal police car. As I get closer, on the side of the vehicle it read Military Police. What power do they have over the civillian population. Would he be allowed to pull me over for speeding?

They have no powers until martial law is declared....... Or you are on a military base.

So sometime before the next election then

[Marcellus]

I seem to remember on one of those "cops with cameras" things that MPs worked with standard police in Leicester square.... whilst the std police were, now now nicey nicey stop or I will arrest you the MPs were straight in boots first and dragging the squaddies off into the truck..

[Zumbruk]

nail_it said:

M.P.'s can be animals when sorting drunk squaddies.

I'm very grateful to the MPs who came and rescued us from very nearly getting beaten up by a bunch of squaddies in Canterbury. We were out celebrating the end of Finals and were being followed by a group of increasingly aggressive squaddies. We went into an Indian restaurant, hoping they wouldn't follow us, but they did, and worse yet met a group of their mates. One of our party phoned the barracks who told us to wait 5 minutes until they got there and then leave the restaurant. The MPs were waiting outside and none-too-gently hoovered them up into vans and took them away. Hurrah!

[untakenname]

A few years back the military police used to patrol down Union Street in Plymouth (Union Street was worst area in the whole of england imo, full of dives and brothels) at night instead of normal police. I wonder if they had special powers given to them?

[Jonny671]

Marcellus said:

I seem to remember on one of those "cops with cameras" things that MPs worked with standard police in Leicester square.... whilst the std police were, now now nicey nicey stop or I will arrest you the MPs were straight in boots first and dragging the squaddies off into the truck..

I saw that too!

I hope the normal Police felt embarrassed they couldn't be the same as the MP!

It was good to see that, even if your in the army.. They'll kick your ass back into line

[BruceV8]

IIRC RMP and their Navy & RAF counterparts have powers over servicemen everywhere (hence their presence in Leicester Square, for example) and very limited powers with civiians on MOD property. Any civilian arrested by a monkey would have to be handed over to CivPol as soon as possible. In the UK, CivPol have primacy over any serious crime that occurs, even on MOD property. RMP - and, strangely enough, MOD Police - nearly alway hand these cases over.

If you see any RAF Police cutting about, please feel free to give them the coffeee beans. Tell them I sent you. I don't mind RMP but I fking hate those jumped up spunk-hatted barrier technicians.

[Carreauchompeur]

BruceV8 said:

jumped up spunk-hatted barrier technicians.

Classic!

[Octoposse]

I used to police a rural area many miles from backup but relatively close to a large military establishment. Occassionally RMP would back us up if things looked sticky . . . I never saw them actually having to get involved but I assume it would have been just common law use of force had they had to wade in.

[Sgt Bilko]

IIRC Military Police cannot arrest civilians. They can detain, but i am sure they cannot arrest. Whether you would fancy your chances walking away from a red top is another matter.

[BruceV8]

Sgt Bilko said:

IIRC Military Police cannot arrest civilians. They can detain, but i am sure they cannot arrest. Whether you would fancy your chances walking away from a red top is another matter.

I think you're right there.

[Mike_CTR]

BruceV8 said:

Sgt Bilko said:

IIRC Military Police cannot arrest civilians. They can detain, but i am sure they cannot arrest. Whether you would fancy your chances walking away from a red top is another matter.

I think you're right there.

Monkies have no power over civilians other than that of a normal citizen, i.e. Citizen's Arrest, unless they are granted the power by a local Chief Constable or other power/person within The Home Office. Or that's how I understand it anyway.

Their powers over military personnel are not restricted just to them, however, any person holding rank has the power to arrest and/or charge a soldier of a lesser rank with a military offence- although now administrative action is more common for lesser "offences".

[ExChrispy Porker]

BruceV8 said:

Sgt Bilko said:

IIRC Military Police cannot arrest civilians. They can detain, but i am sure they cannot arrest. Whether you would fancy your chances walking away from a red top is another matter.

I think you're right there.

They have the same powers of arrest as any citizen. There is no ditinction between detain and arrest.

[BruceV8]

ExChrispy Porker said:

BruceV8 said:

Sgt Bilko said:

IIRC Military Police cannot arrest civilians. They can detain, but i am sure they cannot arrest. Whether you would fancy your chances walking away from a red top is another matter.

I think you're right there.

They have the same powers of arrest as any citizen. There is no ditinction between detain and arrest.

There's your answer then

[Cat]

ExChrispy Porker said:

BruceV8 said:

Sgt Bilko said:

IIRC Military Police cannot arrest civilians. They can detain, but i am sure they cannot arrest. Whether you would fancy your chances walking away from a red top is another matter.

I think you're right there.

They have the same powers of arrest as any citizen. There is no ditinction between detain and arrest.

There is in Scotland! There is no power of arrest on suspicion north of the border, but you can be detained for upto 6 hours if you are suspected of commiting an offence punishable by imprisonment.

A person has different rights depending whether they are arrested or detained.

The power of detention is only available to a Constable (not including MPs).

Cat

[Nigel Worc's]

Carreauchompeur said:

BruceV8 said:

jumped up spunk-hatted barrier technicians.

Classic!

Brilliant.

The bds used to work with the civvy gits in trying to find out which landrover plate we had on our bikes now !

There is something very wrong with people who want to serve in any of the military police forces, their very existance goes against the principals of being in the "brotherhood"

[forza whites]

Mike_CTR said:

BruceV8 said:

Sgt Bilko said:

IIRC Military Police cannot arrest civilians. They can detain, but i am sure they cannot arrest. Whether you would fancy your chances walking away from a red top is another matter.

I think you're right there.

Monkies have no power over civilians other than that of a normal citizen, i.e. Citizen's Arrest, unless they are granted the power by a local Chief Constable or other power/person within The Home Office. Or that's how I understand it anyway.

Their powers over military personnel are not restricted just to them, however, any person holding rank has the power to arrest and/or charge a soldier of a lesser rank with a military offence- although now administrative action is more common for lesser "offences".

Rubbish

To charge or even detain a WO1 for instance you would need to be at least a Brigadier!

[mel]

They do actually have limited powers over some civilians in certain circumstances, these are normally restricted to servicemans/womens spouses and kids and are normally only applied (but not exclusively) if the family are living in married quarters (which are not technically owned by the MoD anymore)

Examples of the above that I know of have been where squaddies wives have been charged with growing dubious "pot" plants or in one case running a knocking shop, under military law by military police.

editted to add punctuation, keep streaky happy, and stop the image of sex by numbers

Edited by mel on Monday 23 March 13:30

[Sgt Bilko]

mel said:

They do actually have limited powers over some civilians in certain circumstances, these are normally restricted to servicemans/womens spouses and kids and are normally only applied (but not exclusively) if the family are living in married quarters (which are not technically owned by the MoD anymore)

Examples of the above that I know of have been where squaddies wives have been charged with growing dubious "pot" plants or in one case running a knocking shop under military law by military police.

I find that a bit odd since spouses are not subject to Queens Regs

[streaky]

mel said:

They do actually have limited powers over some civilians in certain circumstances, these are normally restricted to servicemans/womens spouses and kids and are normally only applied (but not exclusively) if the family are living in married quarters (which are not technically owned by the MoD anymore)

Examples of the above that I know of have been where squaddies wives have been charged with growing dubious "pot" plants or in one case running a knocking shop under military law by military police.

A classic! I can just imagine doing it by numbers Punctuation would have helped - Streaky