The reboot/remake bandwagon rumbles on...

[anonymous-user]

Tuna said:

New Home Alone script:

• Adults leave the house*

• kid picks up phone, dials a number*

• Mom's mobile rings*

Kid: Mom! You forgot me!

Mom: Oh my gosh! We're only down the road, hold on, we'll be back in a moment.

*The End*

You're assuming it will be set in the present (it probably will) but they might go back to the early 1990s - you could argue a 'better time'

I don't get why this has to be remade apart from seriously cash-in and sell out.

[ajprice]

ajprice said:

I haven't been to see the new Lion King, or Dumbo, or Aladdin. I don't want to see a 'live action remake' of an animation. This video explains it better than I can https://youtu.be/4LddR4UF9q8.

This is a still from the start of the video, if Lion King looked like the one on the right, I would have been there straight away.

The animated version of the Lion King in the picture https://twitter.com/Bosslogic/status/1159457988270...

[Centurion07]

2002 said:

I don't get why this has to be remade apart from seriously cash-in and sell out.

I used to wonder why as well and eventually it dawned on me; for the same reason all remakes are made; they're not being reworked for the original audience, they're being re-done and re-packaged for a completely new generation of filmgoers. People that probably won't have even heard of the original nevermind seen it and even if they have, they'll prefer to see it with famous actors from their own generation.

We all know Jaden Smith is a fking terrible actor but he is far more relevant to today's audiences in a 2010 remake of The Karate Kid than Ralph Macchio is a a 26-year-old film (at the time of the remake).

Added to that you have the fact the world is a very different place than it was even just 20 years ago. The new Ghostbusters film is a case in point. Ignoring the fact it was a steaming pile of ste, it's only now, where women have a much more equal footing in the world, that a film could have even been conceived of with four female leads (Nine to Five notwithstanding but that was about 3 women in very female roles being harassed by a sexist boss)

TL; DR: old films are regurgitated to reflect modern society and how it views itself, they are not re-made with the original audience in mind. Unfortunately.

[kowalski655]

Hence the fanboi reaction to the Star Wars prequel trilogy. It wasnt made for the nerdy fans of Han & Chewie, it was made for the kids then that were same as the kids back in 1977
But it didnt help Ep.1 was st

[Halb]

THe prequel films just weren't that good, in different areas, that was a big chunk of reason for why 'fanboys' didn't like them.

I think the LAR also has something to do with keep rights, I think. THe oldest

I wasn't sure of the recent Snow White films were disney, but I guess not. SO that and Pinocchio are the oldest ones not done yet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Disney_live-...

[Murph7355]

ajprice said:

ajprice said:

I haven't been to see the new Lion King, or Dumbo, or Aladdin. I don't want to see a 'live action remake' of an animation. This video explains it better than I can https://youtu.be/4LddR4UF9q8.

This is a still from the start of the video, if Lion King looked like the one on the right, I would have been there straight away.

The animated version of the Lion King in the picture https://twitter.com/Bosslogic/status/1159457988270...

My instinctive reaction to The Lion King was the same, as it is with most reboots.

However I went to watch it with my boys (7 and 4) and wife and was taken aback by it really. It was very nicely done and, most importantly, my kids loved it (and they are big fans of the animated version and The Lion Guard series).

I left thinking that if kids are brought up on that sort of movie they would think traditional (as we see it) as inferior.

Part of me was sad about that, but ultimately things move on.

It won't stop kids enjoying the old stuff (my two watched the original 101 Dalmatians recently)...but I think they'll prefer the "live action" stuff if it's done as well as TLK.

[Cotty]

Rumour of The Princess Bride remake

https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/18/princess-bride-rele...

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/sep/18/incon...

I assume it is for people who have not watched the original.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

Cotty said:

Rumour of The Princess Bride remake

https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/18/princess-bride-rele...

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/sep/18/incon...

I assume it is for people who have not watched the original.

A Princess Bride remake? That would be inconceivable!

‘There’s a shortage of perfect movies in this world. It would be a pity to damage this one’

Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Wednesday 18th September 14:05

[Cotty]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

‘There’s a shortage of perfect movies in this world. It would be a pity to damage this one’
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I saw that comment in the article and thought it was stupid. They are not damaging the original, just making an imperfect version

[judas]

Just when you thought the money grubbing, creatively bankrupt vultures couldn't stoop any lower they turn their greedy eyes on the Princess Bride.

And the creatively bankrupt bandwagon rolls on into the land of Beyond Parody with a reboot of a reboot:

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/09/battlestar-...

[irocfan]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

A Princess Bride remake? That would be inconceivable!

‘There’s a shortage of perfect movies in this world. It would be a pity to damage this one’

indeed.


There's also talk of a Battlestar Galactica re-imagining

[FourWheelDrift]

Unless they are covering the first Cylon war?

"In a tweet posted after this story was originally written, Esmail clarified that the show is not a straight remake but instead something of a spinoff, "because... why mess with perfection? Instead, we’ll explore a new story within the mythology while staying true to the spirit of Battlestar."

[Clockwork Cupcake]

"All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again..."

[Halb]

....just doesn't stop does it....take something people love, and st on it.

If they do remake the Princess Bride, it won't go well for them, likewise BSG.
They need to look at what BSG did, take a crappy-mediocre 70s/80s product and polish it.
Space 1999 would be a good one, Terrhawks...Captain Scarlet...there's loads.

[Rumblestripe]

Halb said:

....just doesn't stop does it....take something people love, and st on it.

If they do remake the Princess Bride, it won't go well for them, likewise BSG.

How exactly does a remake "sh*t" on the original?

No copies of the original movie are harmed in the process, this isn't the Mona Lisa and the cleaning lady with paint stripper, if it were the Mona Lisa then the analogy would be a 6th Form Art student having a bash at a copy in acrylic paint on a piece of wallpaper.

I don't see many "remakes" tanking at the Box Office. Indeed the reason they keep doing them is that they are a pretty reliable revenue stream. This keeps the studios busy allowing them to make perhaps more risky original films

I do not get the apoplexy that some get themselves into over a remake. Don't go see it, watch the original at home. Enjoy.

[Halb]

Rumblestripe said:

How exactly does a remake "sh*t" on the original?

No copies of the original movie are harmed in the process, this isn't the Mona Lisa and the cleaning lady with paint stripper, if it were the Mona Lisa then the analogy would be a 6th Form Art student having a bash at a copy in acrylic paint on a piece of wallpaper.

I don't see many "remakes" tanking at the Box Office. Indeed the reason they keep doing them is that they are a pretty reliable revenue stream. This keeps the studios busy allowing them to make perhaps more risky original films

I do not get the apoplexy that some get themselves into over a remake. Don't go see it, watch the original at home. Enjoy.

apoplexy, meaning extreme anger. I don't see any of that on here. If you don't think mangling a classic sts on it, good for you.
I don't understand those who seem to wanna negate the feelings of others and hush them up in regards to discussions over film.


THe last remake that tanked was Ghostbusters, so badly that it almost sent Sony into a spiral, especially considering their SPidey remake was tanking too, before Disney saved them.

[Cotty]

Halb said:

....just doesn't stop does it....take something people love, and st on it.

If they do remake the Princess Bride, it won't go well for them, likewise BSG.

They are not making it for people like you who have watched and loved the original. They are making it for a new generation or viewers, with actors who they will relate to.

[Halb]

Cotty said:

They are not making it for people like you who have watched and loved the original. They are making it for a new generation or viewers, with actors who they will relate to.

THat might be accurate or it might not, I think more not since on of the main drivers would be to get the old fans in as well as possible new ones. THe reasons behind making it, some films don't require that, some do. Simple cash-ins (like the aforementioned Ghostbusters) are I think easier to spot these days. But take a remake that was a creative endeavour, like the Ladykillers, that didn't add anything new to the original, though it was a pleasant update, but it didn't make money. True Grit, being another Coen remake, did add new dimensions to the story, possibly because it was based off the book more, than the Duke original. Should the Wizard of Oz get remade to get 'actors who they relate to?' The only time to see if the remake has been successful is if after it's been watched a few times, I think. It was a truism once that one should only remake bad films. And today's market is filled with franchises being wheeled past their best by date. I'll go watch any film if it's good enough, but a hackneyed shallow stab at updating something where there is no hunger for an update, indeed, especially something like TPB (which is comparable to ghostbusters) which is super loved by a fanbase would I think be a road to bad PR if it didn't actually add anything to the IP.

[Rumblestripe]

Halb said:

If you don't think mangling a classic sts on it, good for you.
I don't understand those who seem to wanna negate the feelings of others and hush them up in regards to discussions over film.

THe last remake that tanked was Ghostbusters, so badly that it almost sent Sony into a spiral, especially considering their SPidey remake was tanking too, before Disney saved them.

So that's two loss makers in how many? If they were such a financial liability Disney wouldn't be working their way through their own back catalogue re-making them. It is a reliable, but not foolproof, revenue source. The Lion King remake has taken in excess of $1 billion to date and then we will have the take from streaming, DVD/BR and sales to TV networks.

The point is remaking a "classic" does not mangle anything. If someone makes a cover version of (for example) "Bridge over Troubled Waters" the original is unharmed, no-one goes through record, CD and MP3 collections replacing them. I get that some going to hate the new version. So what?

And I think describing a remake as "mangling" or "stting on" the original is at least jolly cross if not borderline apoplexy. And it is illogical.

[Halb]

Rumblestripe said:

So that's two loss makers in how many? If they were such a financial liability Disney wouldn't be working their way through their own back catalogue re-making them. It is a reliable, but not foolproof, revenue source. The Lion King remake has taken in excess of $1 billion to date and then we will have the take from streaming, DVD/BR and sales to TV networks.
The point is remaking a "classic" does not mangle anything. If someone makes a cover version of (for example) "Bridge over Troubled Waters" the original is unharmed, no-one goes through record, CD and MP3 collections replacing them. I get that some going to hate the new version. So what?
And I think describing a remake as "mangling" or "stting on" the original is at least jolly cross if not borderline apoplexy. And it is illogical.

I don't know, I've not looked into it, those two stand out as sore thumbs and help guide my view. The Predator is another, T5 another, beig more franchise stretchers, though sometimes blatant remakes hide as franchise stretchers.
The reasons for Disney moving through their catalogue is myriad, one is to maintain those rights, Aladdin was a runway success, Dumbo was a dismal failure (and possibly lost money).
YOur stance is that remaking doesn't mangle, I disagree, that's it.
And I am happy to put you straight that I wasn't even close to 'borderline apoplexy.'