Old Duffers 40mph Club.
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Toltec said:
Well, s
t happens, clearly.
Let us postulate you are a quick reader with an above average vocabulary, however when sat there reading a book on your Kindle at the end of each page you can only go to the next when the time it takes a somewhat below average person to read it passes. Furthermore all less common words have an underline which you have to tap on and acknowledge you have read and understood the definition, obviously you are not allowed to do this too quickly. There is some basic face/eye tracking on the Kindle so if you look away from the page the counter stops.
Sound like something you would enjoy, only being allowed to read at the pace of a below average reader?
It is only your time after all so staring mindlessly rather than doing something useful or at least interesting is fine, yes?
Agreed. Another analogy is watching a news item and it is only in video. FFS, I can read faster than the presenter can speak, give me printed words.t happens, clearly.Let us postulate you are a quick reader with an above average vocabulary, however when sat there reading a book on your Kindle at the end of each page you can only go to the next when the time it takes a somewhat below average person to read it passes. Furthermore all less common words have an underline which you have to tap on and acknowledge you have read and understood the definition, obviously you are not allowed to do this too quickly. There is some basic face/eye tracking on the Kindle so if you look away from the page the counter stops.
Sound like something you would enjoy, only being allowed to read at the pace of a below average reader?
It is only your time after all so staring mindlessly rather than doing something useful or at least interesting is fine, yes?
I agree, it's bloody infuriating. Normally a Honda Jazz / Micra / Any French hatchback are the main culprits. Clearly no interest in driving what so ever and then when you finally overtake you get a mirror full of flashing lights. Maybe use that energy to press your accelerator more you utter throbber!
Toltec said:
Well, st happens, clearly.
Let us postulate you are a quick reader with an above average vocabulary, however when sat there reading a book on your Kindle at the end of each page you can only go to the next when the time it takes a somewhat below average person to read it passes. Furthermore all less common words have an underline which you have to tap on and acknowledge you have read and understood the definition, obviously you are not allowed to do this too quickly. There is some basic face/eye tracking on the Kindle so if you look away from the page the counter stops.
Sound like something you would enjoy, only being allowed to read at the pace of a below average reader?
It is only your time after all so staring mindlessly rather than doing something useful or at least interesting is fine, yes?
I used to work for an American software firm where we had to complete mandatory annual computer based anti-corruption, harassment, product and CRM training that was exactly like that. You couldn't go at your own pace, and the timer would stop if you switched to anything else. It was a nightmare and the very definition of harassment since our managers hated it as much as we did, and yet we had to go through hours of this training yet received no allowances if our carefully tracked work output dropped.t happens, clearly.Let us postulate you are a quick reader with an above average vocabulary, however when sat there reading a book on your Kindle at the end of each page you can only go to the next when the time it takes a somewhat below average person to read it passes. Furthermore all less common words have an underline which you have to tap on and acknowledge you have read and understood the definition, obviously you are not allowed to do this too quickly. There is some basic face/eye tracking on the Kindle so if you look away from the page the counter stops.
Sound like something you would enjoy, only being allowed to read at the pace of a below average reader?
It is only your time after all so staring mindlessly rather than doing something useful or at least interesting is fine, yes?
soad said:
I don’t think they realise what the speed limit is/are. Hard not to notice the signs though. Then again, they’re too old to use the phone navigation/maps/Waze?
I get beeped at/head shaking when I overtake (safely) at the NSL...not just from the old guys.
^This, they don't look at the signs at all.I get beeped at/head shaking when I overtake (safely) at the NSL...not just from the old guys.
Mother-in-law mentioned she did 100kmh on the way to visit us, I pointed out that the limit was changed to 80, when was that she said, oh about 10-12 years ago.
Please bear in mind this would be a road that she travels out to us on, probably weekly basis, and it has 80kmh signs in a number of places along it's 8km length.
Olivergt said:
^This, they don't look at the signs at all.
Mother-in-law mentioned she did 100kmh on the way to visit us, I pointed out that the limit was changed to 80, when was that she said, oh about 10-12 years ago.
Please bear in mind this would be a road that she travels out to us on, probably weekly basis, and it has 80kmh signs in a number of places along it's 8km length.
That seems to be a common thing with many people of a certain age... So far as they're concerned the world should have just stopped changing at some point, including the road layout.Mother-in-law mentioned she did 100kmh on the way to visit us, I pointed out that the limit was changed to 80, when was that she said, oh about 10-12 years ago.
Please bear in mind this would be a road that she travels out to us on, probably weekly basis, and it has 80kmh signs in a number of places along it's 8km length.
For anyone who knows the Crooked Billet near Staines, a few years ago my dad was driving, and pulled up to the lights in the turn-left lane. Odd, the quickest route from here is straight on... "I don't normally go left here, good to see some different scenery" say I. "I'm going straight" says dad. "Hmmm, I'm not sure those other cars will be expecting that, dad" l. "Shut up and mind your own business, the road is wrong." Then of course it was everyone else's fault when three lanes of traffic didn't quite fit into two lanes at the other end and people get a bit cross. FFS.
Then there's my FIL. He complained that a formerly two-way, now take-in-turn road had loads of red light jumpers because he kept meeting other cars halfway. Then I went through it with him; he took a late amber, faffed around in the wrong gear, found the right gear, started taking a good look at something, did 10mph most of the way and then, unsurprisingly, by the time we cleared the blind bend someone had already pulled away on a green light at the other end. He couldn't see that his driving was contributing to the issue.
donkmeister said:
That seems to be a common thing with many people of a certain age... So far as they're concerned the world should have just stopped changing at some point, including the road layout.
I remember well into the 1980s there were qualified drivers insisting the dual carriageway NSL was still 60 for cars and bikes, and a few (conversely) thought the single carriageway limit was still 70.A new dawdling record today!
Single carriageway bypass, NSL, about 3 miles long. Quite a lot of traffic coming the other way, so not much chance of a safe overtake in the diesel C3 Picasso. Downhill, too.
Estate car 3 cars ahead doing 37mph.
When we finally got to the dual carriageway part and I managed to get past, it wasn't even an old duffer driving, just a woman with her chin almost planted on the steering wheel.
On the way back, a Micra 5 or 6 cars ahead doing 40mph on the same bypass, and a Parcelforce van trying to get intimate with my rear bumper
It really isn't worth having a fast car here in the summer.
Single carriageway bypass, NSL, about 3 miles long. Quite a lot of traffic coming the other way, so not much chance of a safe overtake in the diesel C3 Picasso. Downhill, too.
Estate car 3 cars ahead doing 37mph.
When we finally got to the dual carriageway part and I managed to get past, it wasn't even an old duffer driving, just a woman with her chin almost planted on the steering wheel.
On the way back, a Micra 5 or 6 cars ahead doing 40mph on the same bypass, and a Parcelforce van trying to get intimate with my rear bumper
It really isn't worth having a fast car here in the summer.
clockworks said:
A new dawdling record today!
Single carriageway bypass, NSL, about 3 miles long. Quite a lot of traffic coming the other way, so not much chance of a safe overtake in the diesel C3 Picasso. Downhill, too.
Estate car 3 cars ahead doing 37mph.
When we finally got to the dual carriageway part and I managed to get past, it wasn't even an old duffer driving, just a woman with her chin almost planted on the steering wheel.
On the way back, a Micra 5 or 6 cars ahead doing 40mph on the same bypass, and a Parcelforce van trying to get intimate with my rear bumper
It really isn't worth having a fast car here in the summer.
It really isn't worth having a fast car here at any time or season Single carriageway bypass, NSL, about 3 miles long. Quite a lot of traffic coming the other way, so not much chance of a safe overtake in the diesel C3 Picasso. Downhill, too.
Estate car 3 cars ahead doing 37mph.
When we finally got to the dual carriageway part and I managed to get past, it wasn't even an old duffer driving, just a woman with her chin almost planted on the steering wheel.
On the way back, a Micra 5 or 6 cars ahead doing 40mph on the same bypass, and a Parcelforce van trying to get intimate with my rear bumper
It really isn't worth having a fast car here in the summer.
bigothunter said:
clockworks said:
A new dawdling record today!
Single carriageway bypass, NSL, about 3 miles long. Quite a lot of traffic coming the other way, so not much chance of a safe overtake in the diesel C3 Picasso. Downhill, too.
Estate car 3 cars ahead doing 37mph.
When we finally got to the dual carriageway part and I managed to get past, it wasn't even an old duffer driving, just a woman with her chin almost planted on the steering wheel.
On the way back, a Micra 5 or 6 cars ahead doing 40mph on the same bypass, and a Parcelforce van trying to get intimate with my rear bumper
It really isn't worth having a fast car here in the summer.
It really isn't worth having a fast car here at any time or season Single carriageway bypass, NSL, about 3 miles long. Quite a lot of traffic coming the other way, so not much chance of a safe overtake in the diesel C3 Picasso. Downhill, too.
Estate car 3 cars ahead doing 37mph.
When we finally got to the dual carriageway part and I managed to get past, it wasn't even an old duffer driving, just a woman with her chin almost planted on the steering wheel.
On the way back, a Micra 5 or 6 cars ahead doing 40mph on the same bypass, and a Parcelforce van trying to get intimate with my rear bumper
It really isn't worth having a fast car here in the summer.
Pica-Pica said:
bigothunter said:
clockworks said:
A new dawdling record today!
Single carriageway bypass, NSL, about 3 miles long. Quite a lot of traffic coming the other way, so not much chance of a safe overtake in the diesel C3 Picasso. Downhill, too.
Estate car 3 cars ahead doing 37mph.
When we finally got to the dual carriageway part and I managed to get past, it wasn't even an old duffer driving, just a woman with her chin almost planted on the steering wheel.
On the way back, a Micra 5 or 6 cars ahead doing 40mph on the same bypass, and a Parcelforce van trying to get intimate with my rear bumper
It really isn't worth having a fast car here in the summer.
It really isn't worth having a fast car here at any time or season Single carriageway bypass, NSL, about 3 miles long. Quite a lot of traffic coming the other way, so not much chance of a safe overtake in the diesel C3 Picasso. Downhill, too.
Estate car 3 cars ahead doing 37mph.
When we finally got to the dual carriageway part and I managed to get past, it wasn't even an old duffer driving, just a woman with her chin almost planted on the steering wheel.
On the way back, a Micra 5 or 6 cars ahead doing 40mph on the same bypass, and a Parcelforce van trying to get intimate with my rear bumper
It really isn't worth having a fast car here in the summer.
But track-focussed cars can be driven hard on race circuits, which is much more rewarding
My bugbear is a major A road junction with 3 phases and sensors under the surface to tell whether there is a queue.
Duffers see the car in front of them move, slowly put it into gear and then move off leaving a big gap and wonder why they always catch the red, whilst everyone with somewhere to go fumes behind them.
loafer123 said:
My bugbear is a major A road junction with 3 phases and sensors under the surface to tell whether there is a queue.
Duffers see the car in front of them move, slowly put it into gear and then move off leaving a big gap and wonder why they always catch the red, whilst everyone with somewhere to go fumes behind them.
Should duffers lose their driving licences? If so, at what age? Duffers see the car in front of them move, slowly put it into gear and then move off leaving a big gap and wonder why they always catch the red, whilst everyone with somewhere to go fumes behind them.
I strongly believe that there is a large cohort of drivers out there who simply do not know what the national speed limits are, do not know what the white circle with the black diagonal bar through it means, and do not know what solid white lines, elongated broken white lines and short broken white lines mean.
I come to this belief through experience, extensive experience of sitting behind people doing exactly 40mph on a NSL single carriageway road, sitting behind people doing 30mph through villages and not speeding up in any discernible way after passing the delimiter sign, and getting flashed at for daring to pass such people at the first available legal opportunity.
But it definitely is worth having a fast car. The sport button is your friend!
I come to this belief through experience, extensive experience of sitting behind people doing exactly 40mph on a NSL single carriageway road, sitting behind people doing 30mph through villages and not speeding up in any discernible way after passing the delimiter sign, and getting flashed at for daring to pass such people at the first available legal opportunity.
But it definitely is worth having a fast car. The sport button is your friend!
Had one today. The traffic in front approaching Sutton Bank was led by a lorry & horse box.
Astra GTE made no atttempt to keep up with the flow, left a 100 yard gap steady 40. No chance to over take.
He came across the engage low gear sign { for lorries} & stopped. Crawled up Sutton Bank.
Lorry & horse box long gone. At the top i got past. Yahoo. Saw him in the distance then cars over taking.
Caught the lorry & was happy to do 56 instead of 40. I looked at the Astra driver he was at least 20 years young than me & i was in a Land Rover.
I should use the motor bike more often.
Astra GTE made no atttempt to keep up with the flow, left a 100 yard gap steady 40. No chance to over take.
He came across the engage low gear sign { for lorries} & stopped. Crawled up Sutton Bank.
Lorry & horse box long gone. At the top i got past. Yahoo. Saw him in the distance then cars over taking.
Caught the lorry & was happy to do 56 instead of 40. I looked at the Astra driver he was at least 20 years young than me & i was in a Land Rover.
I should use the motor bike more often.
king arthur said:
I strongly believe that there is a large cohort of drivers out there who simply do not know what the national speed limits are, do not know what the white circle with the black diagonal bar through it means, and do not know what solid white lines, elongated broken white lines and short broken white lines mean.
I come to this belief through experience, extensive experience of sitting behind people doing exactly 40mph on a NSL single carriageway road, sitting behind people doing 30mph through villages and not speeding up in any discernible way after passing the delimiter sign, and getting flashed at for daring to pass such people at the first available legal opportunity.
But it definitely is worth having a fast car. The sport button is your friend!
I’m pretty sure I said exactly this a few pages ago!I come to this belief through experience, extensive experience of sitting behind people doing exactly 40mph on a NSL single carriageway road, sitting behind people doing 30mph through villages and not speeding up in any discernible way after passing the delimiter sign, and getting flashed at for daring to pass such people at the first available legal opportunity.
But it definitely is worth having a fast car. The sport button is your friend!
LunarOne said:
I’m pretty sure I said exactly this a few pages ago!
You may well have done, I haven't read every page of the thread.Another thing that seems to have crept in over the last several years:
Speed limits were always supposed to be set at the maximum speed a reasonably competent driver in a reasonably capable car could safely drive at on that road.
But as has been observed by DA and others, we now have a country full of people who need to be told how to wipe their arses and so speed limits seem to be being set accordingly.
Therefore if old Mrs Biddy in her Morris Minor can't proceed along that twisty bit of asphalt at more than 30mph, neither will anyone else be allowed to.
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