45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 6)
Discussion
Jockman said:
RobDickinson said:
"new Gallup poll on how Americans view Trump's performance as president: 38% approve, 60% disapprove"
Holy f
king hell.
Yup. His approval ratings are higher than Macron, Merkel or May. Holy f
king hell. Go figure.
38%.
I am walking amongst these people, day by day.
I feel uneasy.
@RVAwonk said:
Special counsel Mueller just released a new court filing saying that Paul Manafort has lied repeatedly to investigators SINCE PLEADING GUILTY, breaking the terms of his plea agreement. Mueller is calling for Manafort to be sentenced immediately.
"After signing the plea agreement, [Paul] Manafort committed federal crimes by lying to the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Special Counsel’s Office on a variety of subject matters, which constitute breaches of the agreement."
"After signing the plea agreement, [Paul] Manafort committed federal crimes by lying to the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Special Counsel’s Office on a variety of subject matters, which constitute breaches of the agreement."
@Seth Abramson said:
Mark my words: Trump witness-tampered with Manafort directly/indirectly. Manafort had nothing to lose by cooperating with Mueller—only gain—and Mueller was asking him about Trump, and Manafort lied. So he was expecting a pardon. Which means somebody let him think it could happen.
When all you have to do is *tell the truth*, and if you don't it could give you *many more years in prison*—to the point of making your sentence a *life sentence*—what would it take to get you to lie? There aren't many possibilities beyond the promise of a presidential pardon.
And let's be clear (and I say this from experience): Manafort's lawyers would've *explicitly and repeatedly* told him *not to lie* to Mueller. So Manafort had to be getting entreaties from *other sources* besides his lawyers to make him agree to lie to Mueller about collusion.
When all you have to do is *tell the truth*, and if you don't it could give you *many more years in prison*—to the point of making your sentence a *life sentence*—what would it take to get you to lie? There aren't many possibilities beyond the promise of a presidential pardon.
And let's be clear (and I say this from experience): Manafort's lawyers would've *explicitly and repeatedly* told him *not to lie* to Mueller. So Manafort had to be getting entreaties from *other sources* besides his lawyers to make him agree to lie to Mueller about collusion.
Seems like a fair assumption.
Manafort is a cretin. He was lucky to get any offer from Mueller in the first place.
Why would anyone believe Trump would pardon them? He's a man of his word is he? He doesn't give a fk about anyone! He screws people over left right and centre. He doesn't even pay his lawyer bills FFS.
Manafort is a cretin. He was lucky to get any offer from Mueller in the first place.
Why would anyone believe Trump would pardon them? He's a man of his word is he? He doesn't give a f
k about anyone! He screws people over left right and centre. He doesn't even pay his lawyer bills FFS.kowalski655 said:
Isnt Fox News doing that job for him at the minute?
Of course he would rather shut them all down & just have Pravda USA
Not all that remarkable a Tweet really. Voice of America is the Federally-funded international news service. Its TV output is a bit limited, so on the one level, this might be an expansion of this service. Trump will also be aware of BBC World news available on pretty much every hotel cable tv. This is subscription funded.Of course he would rather shut them all down & just have Pravda USA
RobDickinson said:
When are the Republicans going to call this?
It's crazy he still has any approval rating at all.
14000 job losses at gm, partly down to 1bn extra costs from trade wars..
From all reports I have seen while the steel price increase will not have helped,but this is a major repositioning for GM, they were making small cars that nobody wanted, America is buying large SUVs and trucks, this move will change the direction of the company to electric vehicles along with autonomous vehicles, a brave move.It's crazy he still has any approval rating at all.
14000 job losses at gm, partly down to 1bn extra costs from trade wars..
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/26/business/gm-osh...
minimoog said:
@RVAwonk said:
Special counsel Mueller just released a new court filing saying that Paul Manafort has lied repeatedly to investigators SINCE PLEADING GUILTY, breaking the terms of his plea agreement. Mueller is calling for Manafort to be sentenced immediately.
"After signing the plea agreement, [Paul] Manafort committed federal crimes by lying to the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Special Counsel’s Office on a variety of subject matters, which constitute breaches of the agreement."
"After signing the plea agreement, [Paul] Manafort committed federal crimes by lying to the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Special Counsel’s Office on a variety of subject matters, which constitute breaches of the agreement."
@Seth Abramson said:
Mark my words: Trump witness-tampered with Manafort directly/indirectly. Manafort had nothing to lose by cooperating with Mueller—only gain—and Mueller was asking him about Trump, and Manafort lied. So he was expecting a pardon. Which means somebody let him think it could happen.
When all you have to do is *tell the truth*, and if you don't it could give you *many more years in prison*—to the point of making your sentence a *life sentence*—what would it take to get you to lie? There aren't many possibilities beyond the promise of a presidential pardon.
And let's be clear (and I say this from experience): Manafort's lawyers would've *explicitly and repeatedly* told him *not to lie* to Mueller. So Manafort had to be getting entreaties from *other sources* besides his lawyers to make him agree to lie to Mueller about collusion.
When all you have to do is *tell the truth*, and if you don't it could give you *many more years in prison*—to the point of making your sentence a *life sentence*—what would it take to get you to lie? There aren't many possibilities beyond the promise of a presidential pardon.
And let's be clear (and I say this from experience): Manafort's lawyers would've *explicitly and repeatedly* told him *not to lie* to Mueller. So Manafort had to be getting entreaties from *other sources* besides his lawyers to make him agree to lie to Mueller about collusion.
"After signing the plea agreement, Manafort committed federal crimes by lying to the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Special Counsel’s Office on a variety of subject matters, which constitute breaches of the agreement."
He's the filing. Worth a read
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5280689-St...
Mannaforts screwed, that court document clearly states that his reduced plea deal is now in breach so they will go after him for all the charges that were dropped in the plea deal.
He's already had significant assets seized for those charges he pled guilty to, he's gambled and will lose everything for trump. It's incredible the hold trumps has over some, which probably explains Cohens anger when he realised.
He's already had significant assets seized for those charges he pled guilty to, he's gambled and will lose everything for trump. It's incredible the hold trumps has over some, which probably explains Cohens anger when he realised.
PRTVR said:
From all reports I have seen while the steel price increase will not have helped,but this is a major repositioning for GM, they were making small cars that nobody wanted, America is buying large SUVs and trucks, this move will change the direction of the company to electric vehicles along with autonomous vehicles, a brave move.
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/26/business/gm-osh...
Oh its been a shttps://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/26/business/gm-osh...
tty business for a long time, didn't change enough after the bailout. MX5Biologist said:
kowalski655 said:
Isnt Fox News doing that job for him at the minute?
Of course he would rather shut them all down & just have Pravda USA
Not all that remarkable a Tweet really. Voice of America is the Federally-funded international news service. Its TV output is a bit limited, so on the one level, this might be an expansion of this service. Trump will also be aware of BBC World news available on pretty much every hotel cable tv. This is subscription funded.Of course he would rather shut them all down & just have Pravda USA
Papadopolous reported to jail yesterday saying it would be a piece of cake, he'd been to worse camps. He's been mouthing off on twitter consistantly, so consider this. Whatever Manafort did was more obnoxious in the eyes of the prosecutors than what George Papadopoulos has been doing since September.
The court filing will be interesting. Whatever Manafort is hiding is worse than him risking losing all his assets and spending the rest of his life in jail, or he's believing in a trump pardon.
Mueller previously asked for 10 days extension to extension to provide information that would aide in better sentencing Manafort. During this time trump responded with written answers. Connected? Manafort lying because he was promised a pardon by trump, who is the unindicted co-conspirator and Mueller gave them both enough rope to hang themselves?
Edit: actually the stupidity of the man!! While he was under house arrest and he knew his electronic communications were being monitored, he still conspired with a Russian spy to try to intimidate witnesses against him, which is why he was sent to jail instead of being under house arrest.
Now Mueller knows he was lying about things Manafort thought he could get away with - again he was wrong.
The court filing will be interesting. Whatever Manafort is hiding is worse than him risking losing all his assets and spending the rest of his life in jail, or he's believing in a trump pardon.
Mueller previously asked for 10 days extension to extension to provide information that would aide in better sentencing Manafort. During this time trump responded with written answers. Connected? Manafort lying because he was promised a pardon by trump, who is the unindicted co-conspirator and Mueller gave them both enough rope to hang themselves?
Edit: actually the stupidity of the man!! While he was under house arrest and he knew his electronic communications were being monitored, he still conspired with a Russian spy to try to intimidate witnesses against him, which is why he was sent to jail instead of being under house arrest.
Now Mueller knows he was lying about things Manafort thought he could get away with - again he was wrong.
Edited by Byker28i on Tuesday 27th November 08:00
Tartan Pixie said:
By giving in to Trump's demands to pump more oil a few months ago the Saudis have engineered the oversupply situation, add that to the public announcement of the above linked report and we end up with a big stick for Saudi to beat OPEC in to line with, helpfully arriving in time for the 6th Dec OPEC meeting.
OPEC, particularly Angola, Nigeria, Saudi and Iran, have both control and flexibility. OPEC have been controlling their output for so long that there's no need to close fracking wells or lay off workers to reduce supply, they just turn the tap down a bit and carry on as normal. Theoretically this means OPEC could control prices even if they only had 10% of market share instead of the 40%+ that they actually control.
The last time oil prices came up a thread or so ago I reckoned that below $60 for brent crude we'd hit a political constraint among OPEC members, particularly African politicians who for obvious historical reasons can not be seen to under-fund their own education and healthcare systems in order to prop up western economies with cheap resources, meaning they'd band together to control the market back up. Guess we'll see in the next month or two whether I get egg on my face for that one but I'm sticking by it for now.
I'll stop wittering now as none of this has anything to do with Trump, though that is kinda the point.
I agree for the most part, if not all of post. Saudi has always had a big impact on oil price, and is why the US have ignored stuff like 9/11, dodgy human rights and now this latest murder. Saudi did listen to Trump a bit, but are now worried about the price being too low again. Main issue is with higher prices they open up more and more US onshore production. Question is how much of the onshore production has a break even below say $40-50? Not sure I would want to approve projects with a break even much above that currently. As it is OPEC are affectively helping the US grow their market share - but how long will this last - depends on technology and the quality of the geology to give lower break even projects. And how risk averse the companies are.OPEC, particularly Angola, Nigeria, Saudi and Iran, have both control and flexibility. OPEC have been controlling their output for so long that there's no need to close fracking wells or lay off workers to reduce supply, they just turn the tap down a bit and carry on as normal. Theoretically this means OPEC could control prices even if they only had 10% of market share instead of the 40%+ that they actually control.
The last time oil prices came up a thread or so ago I reckoned that below $60 for brent crude we'd hit a political constraint among OPEC members, particularly African politicians who for obvious historical reasons can not be seen to under-fund their own education and healthcare systems in order to prop up western economies with cheap resources, meaning they'd band together to control the market back up. Guess we'll see in the next month or two whether I get egg on my face for that one but I'm sticking by it for now.
I'll stop wittering now as none of this has anything to do with Trump, though that is kinda the point.
But overall Trump clearly wants low oil price to fund economic growth, the same as the tax cuts he gave, and the same as his rants about the Fed putting up interest rates. I actually think this might be one of the few things he really cares about - a booming economy. Obviously to look good, but probably on a personal level too. Much of the rest of the stuff he spouts is just to keep core happy (IMO).
Gameface said:
So because the Trumps didn't tell everyone on the campaign about the secret meeting in Trump Tower etc, their lack of knowledge of such events is proof of the Trumps innocence? 
Yes I'm sure people are banging his door down begging to be dragged into a federal investigation!
I wonder if we might be called into the investigation? I personally didn't get told about any secret meeting, and suspect the same for most if not all others? Maybe that is important to include too? Yes I'm sure people are banging his door down begging to be dragged into a federal investigation!
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