dredd...

[Sa Calobra]

Halb said:

Even with the dvd money, it's only a profit if there was zero pr...which obviously there wan't., so it's still a loss either way

http://www.indiewire.com/2015/03/alex-garland-says...

Edited by Halb on Monday 21st May 21:52

Costs to produce a film. That's all costs to produce the film?

[FourWheelDrift]

They spent very little on marketing, it's the reason Urban gives for the movie not making more.

Karl - "Alex Garland has gone on record to say that Dredd was a Failure. I disagree. The movie itself was not a failure, in fact it was a critical success, it just failed to perform at the box office. How does a movie with a 78% approval rating on Rotten Tomatoes fail? Through zero audience awareness. Nobody knew the movie was being released . Dredd represents a failure in marketing, not filmmaking ."

http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/karl-urban/4059...

[Halb]

Sa Calobra said:

Halb said:

Even with the dvd money, it's only a profit if there was zero pr...which obviously there wan't., so it's still a loss either way

http://www.indiewire.com/2015/03/alex-garland-says...

Edited by Halb on Monday 21st May 21:52

Costs to produce a film. That's all costs to produce the film?

I think so, including any reshoots, or post-production...which Dredd didn't have AFAIK, but I mention it because reshoots sunk Ghosbsuter 2016 and Justice League, Feig said that GHostbusters 2016 would have to make 500 million to break even, their pR budget would have been bigged than production costs as well.
https://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/movie-cost...
rule of thumb for normal films seems to be half the production budget, so an extra $25 million for pr, but for comic book films, it seems to be closer to 100% of the production budget (with extreme cases mentioned)
rlm boys have a great video on, and thenumbers they crunch are fun to look back on, from the future.

Half in the Bag Episode 117: Box Office Number Crunching

https://youtu.be/jLk2LBGkMd4
29 mins

[Halb]

FourWheelDrift said:

They spent very little on marketing, it's the reason Urban gives for the movie not making more.

Karl - "Alex Garland has gone on record to say that Dredd was a Failure. I disagree. The movie itself was not a failure, in fact it was a critical success, it just failed to perform at the box office. How does a movie with a 78% approval rating on Rotten Tomatoes fail? Through zero audience awareness. Nobody knew the movie was being released . Dredd represents a failure in marketing, not filmmaking ."

http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/karl-urban/4059...

He's certaintly saying all the right things for someone who wants to play the part again in a sequel.
Not saying he's not accurate, but unless we see the numbers for PR, it's all guesswork. It's rare for a film copany to wish to sink a film, so at least half the budget seems reasonable for worldwide. Which would make it at least $75 (edit, or 45 mill if you belive Kurt'sKarl-notKurt's word on the budget) . I thought it was well marketed here, everyone I knew, knew about it, it didn't have the promo tie-ins like DC nurget king and the like, that could be what he means, since 2000AD doesn't have the name recognition of DC/Marvel in the USA.

dunno why I always think of him as a Kurt

Edited by Halb on Monday 21st May 22:27

[Guvernator]

It won't have made money. Even if you add the $35m box office and $20m in DVD sales, it cost $50m to make and no matter how little was spent on PR, I did see ads on the TV, posters etc so they did spend at least a bit. Very conservatively you are still looking at $10m PR budget so it made a loss of at least $5m.

On an investment of $50m, investors are going to want to see at least a 20% return, no two ways about it I'm afraid, it tanked.

Edited by Guvernator on Tuesday 22 May 14:50

[Halb]

...I think...The studio takes 55% of the profit from home releases, and 45% from outside the US. Disney causes a stink when they forced cinemas to give them 65% of the star wars films....I did something that talked about this in the star wars thread...it may be, 45/35/55

THis is a pretty good article on a winner/loser outlook.

https://weminoredinfilm.com/2015/03/21/why-is-the-...

[Halb]

Judge Dredd Mega-City One - Is It Still Happening? Dredd Sequel Or Reboot?
Mr H Reviews Published on 20 Mar 2019
https://youtu.be/4DQ9NDvam2A
17mins

[Sa Calobra]

Halb said:

Judge Dredd Mega-City One - Is It Still Happening? Dredd Sequel Or Reboot?
Mr H Reviews Published on 20 Mar 2019
https://youtu.be/4DQ9NDvam2A
17mins

Watching this topic now..

[Flip Martian]

Halb said:

Judge Dredd Mega-City One - Is It Still Happening? Dredd Sequel Or Reboot?
Mr H Reviews Published on 20 Mar 2019
https://youtu.be/4DQ9NDvam2A
17mins

Blimey, this is why you don't take tranquilisers before narrating a video...

[Sa Calobra]

Flip Martian said:

Blimey, this is why you don't take tranquilisers before narrating a video...

He's either trying to span out limited speaking material or he's trying to be cooooool.

[Flip Martian]

Sa Calobra said:

He's either trying to span out limited speaking material or he's trying to be cooooool.

Indeed! I figured the former, since the intro was taking soooo long... Backfired, I gave up. At the point he said "the producers had nothing to say but will be announcing something very soon". Figured I'd wait for that then!

[A Winner Is You]

Dredd is what the upcoming Doom film should have been.

[HorneyMX5]

There’s another Doom film coming out?

[gregs656]

Flip Martian said:

Indeed! I figured the former, since the intro was taking soooo long... Backfired, I gave up. At the point he said "the producers had nothing to say but will be announcing something very soon". Figured I'd wait for that then!

Not worth watching?

I really hope they can figure it out, I think it could be a great show.

[eltawater]

HorneyMX5 said:

There’s another Doom film coming out?

Sadly yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkhXSLmRbiE

ID Software have made it very clear that they have no involvement in this one.

[Halb]

Flip Martian said:

Indeed! I figured the former, since the intro was taking soooo long... Backfired, I gave up. At the point he said "the producers had nothing to say but will be announcing something very soon". Figured I'd wait for that then!

I think so, but he's the only one (maybe Midnight's Edge) who is accurately covering this topic.

[james_tigerwoods]

eltawater said:

HorneyMX5 said:

There’s another Doom film coming out?

Sadly yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkhXSLmRbiE

ID Software have made it very clear that they have no involvement in this one.

Holy crap that looks awful...

And I hope there's a new Dredd film, I loved the last one

[FourWheelDrift]

Lindybeige (historical Youtuber and Dredd fan) talks to Rebellion CEO (and historical warfare fan) owner of 2000AD comics Jason Kingsley about the comic, the films the potential TV series and more. And of course taking the piss out of the Stallone film.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xz1BwbOH4I

[Flip Martian]

FourWheelDrift said:

Lindybeige (historical Youtuber and Dredd fan) talks to Rebellion CEO (and historical warfare fan) owner of 2000AD comics Jason Kingsley about the comic, the films the potential TV series and more. And of course taking the piss out of the Stallone film.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xz1BwbOH4I

Kingsley is one cool dude. Enjoyed that, cheers.

[Hugo Stiglitz]

DAMN IT I WAS HOPING THIS TOPUC UPDATE WAS GOINT TO BE A NEW SERIES OR FILM AT LAST!