Are Electric Cars the biggest con on the planet?

[otolith]

bigothunter said:

Clearly not that difficult to find - thanks

Shame about the banner across the data...

Weird, that wasn't there before!

[DonkeyApple]

SWoll said:

DonkeyApple said:

It is fun to Micky take the Septics as mentioned earlier but we do need to appreciate that geography and economics drive much of what is behind those decisions. Living in a small country with short distances between cities makes it much easier to opt for smaller vehicles as well as it being more necessary.

This. Our complaints about 250 miles of range and 5m long vehicles are meaningless to the US population. And have you seen the physical size of the average US family..

Can't mock US Weebles. Like ours, they've been spearheading the adoption of EVs.

[OutInTheShed]

bigothunter said:

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Americans buy more SUVs/Crossovers than cars. Newer data is difficult to find. But US market has not changed radically since 2016.

A quick google suggests SUVs have more than 40% of the market in 'europe', wherever that is....

Exactly how tall a hatchback has to be to qualify as a 'crossover' may be arguable?

Not really sure there's much 'sport' in these 'UV' things.

[otolith]

OutInTheShed said:

Not really sure there's much 'sport' in these 'UV' things.

It's for your "sporty" lifestyle, you know, all that surfing, snowboarding, downhill mountain biking, rock climbing, paragliding, the normal daily stuff that average British people mostly use their SUV for.

[Minsky]

Archie2050 said:

Good luck to anyone trying to get the Americans to give up their SUV's and trucks, you'd have about as much chance of getting them to agree to gun controls I suspect.

Yeah - they seem extremely nervous and often feel the need to over compensate. (See top three vehicles for details)

[whirlybird]

DonkeyApple said:

Can't mock US Weebles. Like ours, they've been spearheading the adoption of EVs.

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“I love the smell of doughnuts in the morning.”



Oh, this may be worth watching too (FFS) !!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFl8YmJ4yxQ
or this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Egq2qzk9qRo oh & this, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tA4mct5CB8&t=...

Maybe I should have titled this thread as;Are EV's the biggest joke on the planet, because the planet isn't laughing !!!!

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[Blib]

The broken promises betraying electric car drivers.
Charging points remain an obstacle for motorists wanting to go green.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs...

[dvs_dave]

Blib said:

The broken promises betraying electric car drivers.
Charging points remain an obstacle for motorists wanting to go green.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs...

The broken promises betraying horseless carriage drivers.
Filling stations remain an obstacle for horse riders wanting to go faster.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/1903-wants-its-headline-back/

[dvs_dave]

bigothunter said:

dvs_dave said:

bigothunter said:

OutInTheShed said:

No, there is quite a lot of logic in it.

People turned to SUVs when engines got a bit more efficient and speed cameras reduced average speeds, so the fuel costs of pushing a moque-evoque through the air became reasonable.

The drag factor of a bingo hall doesn't matter for a shopping car.

Drag factor of a bingo hall? Shopping car? Really?

Looks like we can also add leaning over like a drunk at a piss-pot to the list.

Visually challenged? SpecSavers can help

The funny part is that you actually think that looks good. You’re well past anything SpecSavers could help you with. Maybe therapy instead?

[Blib]

dvs_dave said:

Blib said:

The broken promises betraying electric car drivers.
Charging points remain an obstacle for motorists wanting to go green.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs...

The broken promises betraying horseless carriage drivers.
Filling stations remain an obstacle for horse riders wanting to go faster.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/1903-wants-its-headline-back/

I've no idea what your reply means.

[bigothunter]

dvs_dave said:

bigothunter said:

dvs_dave said:

bigothunter said:

OutInTheShed said:

No, there is quite a lot of logic in it.

People turned to SUVs when engines got a bit more efficient and speed cameras reduced average speeds, so the fuel costs of pushing a moque-evoque through the air became reasonable.

The drag factor of a bingo hall doesn't matter for a shopping car.

Drag factor of a bingo hall? Shopping car? Really?

Looks like we can also add leaning over like a drunk at a piss-pot to the list.

Visually challenged? SpecSavers can help

The funny part is that you actually think that looks good. You’re well past anything SpecSavers could help you with. Maybe therapy instead?

No I was questioning your comment about leaning over like a drunk at a piss-pot. I wrote nothing about looking good. Where did you see that?

[anonymous-user]

bigothunter said:

Archie2050 said:

Good luck to anyone trying to get the Americans to give up their SUV's and trucks, you'd have about as much chance of getting them to agree to gun controls I suspect.

Which makes compliant Brits a very soft touch...

Well they need their guns to protect themselves because there are so many guns out there... go figure

As the much missed Robin Williams said 'The American Constitution grants the right to bear arms and the right to arm bears...'

[bigothunter]

Archie2050 said:

Well they need their guns to protect themselves because there are so many guns out there... go figure

As the much missed Robin Williams said 'The American Constitution grants the right to bear arms and the right to arm bears...'

For several years, I worked in a team which included North Americans. Subject of guns arose occasionally. When I asked their thoughts about gun control, an American colleague responded:

"What would you do if the police turned against you, and you couldn't defend yourself by shooting back?"


Well that took the wind out of my sails. American culture is different...

[whirlybird]

Only in America ????

[bigothunter]

whirlybird said:

Only in America ????

North America doesn't even come in the top 10. Countries with the Highest Rates of Violent Gun Death (Homicides) per 100k residents in 2019:

El Salvador — 36.78
Venezuela — 33.27
Guatemala — 29.06
Colombia — 26.36
Brazil — 21.93
Bahamas — 21.52
Honduras — 20.15
U.S. Virgin Islands — 19.40
Puerto Rico — 18.14
Mexico — 16.41


https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings...

[whirlybird]

bigothunter said:

whirlybird said:

Only in America ????

North America doesn't even come in the top 10. Countries with the Highest Rates of Violent Gun Death (Homicides) per 100k residents in 2019:

El Salvador — 36.78
Venezuela — 33.27
Guatemala — 29.06
Colombia — 26.36
Brazil — 21.93
Bahamas — 21.52
Honduras — 20.15
U.S. Virgin Islands — 19.40
Puerto Rico — 18.14
Mexico — 16.41

Ahh, but the real question is, do all those countries mentioned really give a flying fuck about Electric Vehicles, & saving the planet, my guess is no !!!!


https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings...

[plfrench]

whirlybird said:

Ahh, but the real question is, do all those countries mentioned really give a flying fuck about Electric Vehicles, & saving the planet, my guess is no !!!!

You're thinking about this all wrong. This is about money as everything always is. By forcibly weaning its population off of oil reliance, the UK can become the Saudi Arabia of the renewable energy world. Rich beyond our wildest dreams

Secondary benefits of lower environmental impact, improved local air quality, plus an exciting new automotive technology development chapter are just a bonus.

[DonkeyApple]

bigothunter said:

North America doesn't even come in the top 10. Countries with the Highest Rates of Violent Gun Death (Homicides) per 100k residents in 2019:

El Salvador — 36.78
Venezuela — 33.27
Guatemala — 29.06
Colombia — 26.36
Brazil — 21.93
Bahamas — 21.52
Honduras — 20.15
U.S. Virgin Islands — 19.40
Puerto Rico — 18.14
Mexico — 16.41


https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings...

Maybe all those guys above are better shots though?

[Blib]

DonkeyApple said:

Maybe all those guys above are better shots though?

This jumped out at me from the article.

article said:

nearly two-thirds (63%) of gun deaths in the US in 2019 were suicides.

[whirlybird]

plfrench said:

whirlybird said:

Ahh, but the real question is, do all those countries mentioned really give a flying fuck about Electric Vehicles, & saving the planet, my guess is no !!!!

You're thinking about this all wrong. This is about money as everything always is. By forcibly weaning its population off of oil reliance, the UK can become the Saudi Arabia of the renewable energy world. Rich beyond our wildest dreams

Secondary benefits of lower environmental impact, improved local air quality, plus an exciting new automotive technology development chapter are just a bonus.

By forcibly weaning its population off of oil reliance, the UK can become the Saudi Arabia of the renewable energy world. Rich beyond our wildest dreams

Do you know what, I think I agree with you . The thought of driving up the Kings Rd, in a gold foil wrapped Lambo, pissing off all the locals ( & I used to be one) sounds fantastic, bring it on.