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jm doc said:
Monkeylegend said:
jm doc said:
Ultra Sound Guy said:
ghost83 said:
Oh was aware of my speed just not the limit
I’m doing 70 in a 70 limit then it turns out the van was a 60 I was quite unhappy about that
This is why they have speed awareness courses! To educate those who are ignorant of the simplest of motoring laws!I’m doing 70 in a 70 limit then it turns out the van was a 60 I was quite unhappy about that
Oh I see, Planet of the Apes. That makes sense....
People keep moaning about SA being a money making scheme, but it's only that way because we all keep speeding. Whether you agree with the speed limits or not, if you don't want to line their pockets there is an easy way not to, unless you are the OP of course
Monkeylegend said:
What a very intelligent reply. You do know there is no such planet don't you, it's was only make believe
People keep moaning about SA being a money making scheme, but it's only that way because we all keep speeding. Whether you agree with the speed limits or not, if you don't want to line their pockets there is an easy way not to, unless you are the OP of course
Oi. You can't come on here spouting stuff like that. People keep moaning about SA being a money making scheme, but it's only that way because we all keep speeding. Whether you agree with the speed limits or not, if you don't want to line their pockets there is an easy way not to, unless you are the OP of course
The system is clearly out to get people and is a money making scam.
However,,,,,,,,,
If a driver were inclined to be a good boy and not exceed speed limits, doing such was considerably easier 25 years ago before the current pot pourri of randomly changing limits came along. He wouldn't have needed to see a sign to know the limit most of the time as there was consistency to those limits.
If a driver were inclined to be a good boy and not exceed speed limits, doing such was considerably easier 25 years ago before the current pot pourri of randomly changing limits came along. He wouldn't have needed to see a sign to know the limit most of the time as there was consistency to those limits.
funkyrobot said:
Monkeylegend said:
What a very intelligent reply. You do know there is no such planet don't you, it's was only make believe
People keep moaning about SA being a money making scheme, but it's only that way because we all keep speeding. Whether you agree with the speed limits or not, if you don't want to line their pockets there is an easy way not to, unless you are the OP of course
Oi. You can't come on here spouting stuff like that. People keep moaning about SA being a money making scheme, but it's only that way because we all keep speeding. Whether you agree with the speed limits or not, if you don't want to line their pockets there is an easy way not to, unless you are the OP of course
The system is clearly out to get people and is a money making scam.
Re SA, it's not a scam in as much we all know the consequences of speeding, in fact it is a very transparent system. Not saying I agree with it, but I know a way of beating it.
£10 and I will let you know how.
PS, that could be a scam
Hope things are ok at home Funky.
Monkeylegend said:
funkyrobot said:
Monkeylegend said:
What a very intelligent reply. You do know there is no such planet don't you, it's was only make believe
People keep moaning about SA being a money making scheme, but it's only that way because we all keep speeding. Whether you agree with the speed limits or not, if you don't want to line their pockets there is an easy way not to, unless you are the OP of course
Oi. You can't come on here spouting stuff like that. People keep moaning about SA being a money making scheme, but it's only that way because we all keep speeding. Whether you agree with the speed limits or not, if you don't want to line their pockets there is an easy way not to, unless you are the OP of course
The system is clearly out to get people and is a money making scam.
Re SA, it's not a scam in as much we all know the consequences of speeding, in fact it is a very transparent system. Not saying I agree with it, but I know a way of beating it.
£10 and I will let you know how.
PS, that could be a scam
Hope things are ok at home Funky.
Things are ok thanks.
Gavia said:
speedking31 said:
Motorway? Rural road without streetlights? Seems to be good advice with a lot of exceptions.
Are you being serious?No streetlights = NSL (this varies depending on single / dual carriageway and type of vehicle being driven) unless there are repeater signs stating another speed limit. Whether the road is rural or built up makes no difference at all.
Motorways = blue road signs and if you don’t know you’re on a motorway, then god help anyone in your vicinity when you’re driving
Streetlights, then it’s 30 unless otherwise stated on repeaters. I know there’s an additional piece around the distance streetlights need to be apart as a maximum, but this will be met
SamR380 said:
If its a limit other than 30, there will be repeater signs every few hundred yards.
I'm just pointing out a couple of situations where that's not true. BTW not all motorways are NSL, knowing you're on a motorway doesn't tell you what the limit is, see 'Smart motorways'.speedking31 said:
Gavia said:
speedking31 said:
Motorway? Rural road without streetlights? Seems to be good advice with a lot of exceptions.
Are you being serious?No streetlights = NSL (this varies depending on single / dual carriageway and type of vehicle being driven) unless there are repeater signs stating another speed limit. Whether the road is rural or built up makes no difference at all.
Motorways = blue road signs and if you don’t know you’re on a motorway, then god help anyone in your vicinity when you’re driving
Streetlights, then it’s 30 unless otherwise stated on repeaters. I know there’s an additional piece around the distance streetlights need to be apart as a maximum, but this will be met
SamR380 said:
If its a limit other than 30, there will be repeater signs every few hundred yards.
I'm just pointing out a couple of situations where that's not true. BTW not all motorways are NSL, knowing you're on a motorway doesn't tell you what the limit is, see 'Smart motorways'.Some motorways have a permanent lower speed limit. Guess what? They have lots of repeater signs.
Both the above show that the default speed limit is 70 mph, unless otherwise signed with repeaters.
Now, you need to go hand in your driving licence, as you’re clearly not competent to drive.
ghost83 said:
Both myself and employer wasn’t aware that our movano should only do 60mph on a dual carriageway whereas I was trundling along at 70 thinking it was for the same as a car so in my eyes I wasn’t rly speeding just weren’t aware that our van should adhere to different limits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ewz4ayCQ4Ehttps://www.gov.uk/speed-limits
This is basic stuff which any responsible professional driver should know.
You may have been unaware but your employer has no absolutely no excuse.
Comes under H&S and duty of care obligations to employees.
The Movano is neither a car derived van nor a dual purpose vehicle.
Even if it were, its lowest GVW configuration is 2800kgs so the lower limit would apply.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/27/schedu...
Monkeylegend said:
jm doc said:
Monkeylegend said:
jm doc said:
Ultra Sound Guy said:
ghost83 said:
Oh was aware of my speed just not the limit
I’m doing 70 in a 70 limit then it turns out the van was a 60 I was quite unhappy about that
This is why they have speed awareness courses! To educate those who are ignorant of the simplest of motoring laws!I’m doing 70 in a 70 limit then it turns out the van was a 60 I was quite unhappy about that
Oh I see, Planet of the Apes. That makes sense....
People keep moaning about SA being a money making scheme, but it's only that way because we all keep speeding. Whether you agree with the speed limits or not, if you don't want to line their pockets there is an easy way not to, unless you are the OP of course
Anyway, if we all stopped speeding, they will just lower the limits. They're already doing that round these parts and there are now no NSL single carriagway roads at all.
jm doc said:
Monkeylegend said:
jm doc said:
Monkeylegend said:
jm doc said:
Ultra Sound Guy said:
ghost83 said:
Oh was aware of my speed just not the limit
I’m doing 70 in a 70 limit then it turns out the van was a 60 I was quite unhappy about that
This is why they have speed awareness courses! To educate those who are ignorant of the simplest of motoring laws!I’m doing 70 in a 70 limit then it turns out the van was a 60 I was quite unhappy about that
Oh I see, Planet of the Apes. That makes sense....
People keep moaning about SA being a money making scheme, but it's only that way because we all keep speeding. Whether you agree with the speed limits or not, if you don't want to line their pockets there is an easy way not to, unless you are the OP of course
Anyway, if we all stopped speeding, they will just lower the limits. They're already doing that round these parts and there are now no NSL single carriagway roads at all.
Red Devil said:
ghost83 said:
Both myself and employer wasn’t aware that our movano should only do 60mph on a dual carriageway whereas I was trundling along at 70 thinking it was for the same as a car so in my eyes I wasn’t rly speeding just weren’t aware that our van should adhere to different limits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ewz4ayCQ4Ehttps://www.gov.uk/speed-limits
This is basic stuff which any responsible professional driver should know.
You may have been unaware but your employer has no absolutely no excuse.
Comes under H&S and duty of care obligations to employees.
The Movano is neither a car derived van nor a dual purpose vehicle.
Even if it were, its lowest GVW configuration is 2800kgs so the lower limit would apply.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/27/schedu...
A small fine and/or ticking off would do.
There is so much more important stuff going on in the world that we should be taking seriously that so much of the guff I see here seems so out of proportion to the supposed offence being committed.
ghost83 said:
It was on a roundabout just by Leeds audi so there’s always lights on one of those was joining a 50mph limit road m621 and genuinely thought it was a 40!
Oh well
I don’t think I can do a sac as I did one in North Yorkshire back in 2016 as detailed above unless West Yorkshire don’t spit that and offer me one
It is there regularly, very nice earner for them. Three lanes leading out to the motorway, it feels like it should be a 40mph, and probably should be, hence why it is very profitable. Also you don't see it as you are coming round a bend.Oh well
I don’t think I can do a sac as I did one in North Yorkshire back in 2016 as detailed above unless West Yorkshire don’t spit that and offer me one
ghost83 said:
You also don’t get repeater signs on roundabouts either
A38/A50 roundabout near Willington, I'm sure that has repeaters.I'll see what Maps throws up.
Edit - Toyota Island
https://goo.gl/maps/N7f19QDYfqK2
cmaguire said:
Red Devil said:
ghost83 said:
Both myself and employer wasn’t aware that our movano should only do 60mph on a dual carriageway whereas I was trundling along at 70 thinking it was for the same as a car so in my eyes I wasn’t rly speeding just weren’t aware that our van should adhere to different limits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ewz4ayCQ4Ehttps://www.gov.uk/speed-limits
This is basic stuff which any responsible professional driver should know.
You may have been unaware but your employer has no absolutely no excuse.
Comes under H&S and duty of care obligations to employees.
The Movano is neither a car derived van nor a dual purpose vehicle.
Even if it were, its lowest GVW configuration is 2800kgs so the lower limit would apply.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/27/schedu...
A small fine and/or ticking off would do.
There is so much more important stuff going on in the world that we should be taking seriously that so much of the guff I see here seems so out of proportion to the supposed offence being committed.
L200
Hilux
Ranger
Amarok
X-class
Navara
Some are, some aren't, some variants are, some variants aren't, I bet that a lot of pickup drivers are unaware of their limits.
Mammasaid said:
So which of the following pickups are subject to the lower limits then?
L200
Hilux
Ranger
Amarok
X-class
Navara
Some are, some aren't, some variants are, some variants aren't, I bet that a lot of pickup drivers are unaware of their limits.
It’s down to the owner to ensure they’re aware of the limit before they buy it if they want to be able to maximise speed limits. If they didn’t bother, then it’s down to them to make themselves aware once they’ve bought it. L200
Hilux
Ranger
Amarok
X-class
Navara
Some are, some aren't, some variants are, some variants aren't, I bet that a lot of pickup drivers are unaware of their limits.
All moot anyway as the OP was driving a Movano in his story, which is a big van.
cmaguire said:
That's one reason stopping me getting a van that could take a motorcycle (eg Brabus Vito). Very convenient but I'd be doing twice the limit 20mph sooner in some cases.
In either scenario up s
t creek if caught. I’ve got a Vito 116, purely for motorbike duty. It goes like stink even full loaded and happily cruises at 90, which is the speed I drive my M4 at on motorways. I’ve never had much grief off police as there are so few about and easy to roll off anyway. I drive the same speeds in both car and van on NSL dual carriageways, with the same outcome.
Mammasaid said:
So which of the following pickups are subject to the lower limits then?
L200
Hilux
Ranger
Amarok
X-class
Navara
Some are, some aren't, some variants are, some variants aren't, I bet that a lot of pickup drivers are unaware of their limits.
I believe all of them as they’re commercial vehicles but I genuinely don’t have a clueL200
Hilux
Ranger
Amarok
X-class
Navara
Some are, some aren't, some variants are, some variants aren't, I bet that a lot of pickup drivers are unaware of their limits.
Trax said:
It is there regularly, very nice earner for them. Three lanes leading out to the motorway, it feels like it should be a 40mph, and probably should be, hence why it is very profitable. Also you don't see it as you are coming round a bend.
That’s exactly what happened was doing 40 about to accelerate to 50 came round the bend and he was there and I still sailed past at 40 it was only when the nip came through that I was awareGassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff