T E N E T - Chris Nolan
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ch37

10,642 posts

239 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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I'm glad the sound has been mentioned, so so many scenes where I couldn't understand what was being said. My local Odeon has great sound typically so I don't think it's down to how it's being shown. I mean the crucial scene being played out during a noisy as hell boat race, c'mon!.

The final 30 minutes being played out by people exclusively in full face masks was also a spectacular own goal in that respect. I think it was supposed to be tense but I was just trying to trying to figure out what the hell was going on.


Brads67

3,199 posts

116 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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Going by the trailer, it looks crap. Only thing going for it is Clémence Poésy.

Craigyp79

609 posts

201 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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Brads67 said:
Going by the trailer, it looks crap. Only thing going for it is Clémence Poésy.
Who looks in dire need of a good meal!

Dog Star

17,077 posts

186 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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ch37 said:
Wearing a mask the whole time was not a problem despite being a glasses wearer, so Tenet here we come!
Hmmmm, I'm not by any stretch of the imagination one of these anti-mask loons, but I'm not sure I could manage a couple of hours in one. Even walking around the Co-Op I'm so happy to get outside and get it off after only a few minutes.

The sound thing - this does seem to be an issue for CN films - which I am a huge fan of. Worst for it so far has been Interstellar.

smn159

14,544 posts

235 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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Saw it last night and would agree with the comments so far. Visually excellent, sound was dreadful, not a clue what what going on.

The impenetrable story meant that there was a lack of tension at the end for me. I knew that they had to do 'something' but I had no idea what or how close they were to it.


WhisperingWasp

1,697 posts

155 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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smn159 said:
Saw it last night and would agree with the comments so far. Visually excellent, sound was dreadful, not a clue what what going on.

The impenetrable story meant that there was a lack of tension at the end for me. I knew that they had to do 'something' but I had no idea what or how close they were to it.
Seemed to me that the aim all along was to rescue that big cam shaft from the cave wink

Incidentally we didn't have to wear masks *in* the cinema. I did ask and was told to do so in the foyer but once in the screen, given the seats were sold with social-distancing in mind, there was no need. I wouldn't have fancied wearing one all the way through.


Mezzanine

10,352 posts

237 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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Why does Nolan insist on muffled dialogue?

Is it a directorial signature he uses to make the films seem deeper and more complex than they really are - having to rewatch, study and ruminate on what the characters are actually saying?

Does he have some in joke that script writers and actors are really quite irrelevant to the whole thing and as long as a film looks visually good, that’s all that really matters?

Or did he sleep with the sound guys wife a long way back and it’s just a continuous vendetta against Nolan?

It’s obviously intentional, but I find muffled dialogue to be the worst thing in any film and will immediately turn me off.

People have said in the past that if you cannot understand the dialogue, you should be concentrating harder. There comes a point when it’s all undermined by just appearing to be poor quality control.

Maybe Nolan just has a hearing problem?!

ch37

10,642 posts

239 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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Mezzanine said:
Why does Nolan insist on muffled dialogue?

It’s obviously intentional
Even more so than his other films I'm inclined to agree here, the racing boat scene in particular felt like trolling, quite frankly!

highway

2,443 posts

278 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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I’d like to know the the soldiers were actually shooting AT during the end sequence?

ch37

10,642 posts

239 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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highway said:
I’d like to know the the soldiers were actually shooting AT during the end sequence?
Yes! Had this exact thought whilst watching it.

s m

24,011 posts

221 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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ch37 said:
Just back from this, you have to admire Nolan for managing to get hundreds of millions of dollars to make a movie that at least two thirds of cinema goers will simply not be able to follow.

I hope it's something where I can now read a detailed explanation from somebody far cleverer than me, then go back and just enjoy it. Visually it's incredible and an assault on your senses unlike anything I've ever seen.

I'm not somebody who needs everything on a plate and I appreciated the various visual indicators used throughout the movie, I understood the basic premise just fine but some crucial scenes just lost me completely for reasons I can't really go into.

I want to love it, so I'm off to find a write up and go see it again.
Sounds like ‘Memento’ crossed with ‘Looper‘ crossed with ‘The Terminator‘ from the timeline aspects!
Looking forward to seeing if I can decipher it smile

JagLover

45,165 posts

253 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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Mezzanine said:
Why does Nolan insist on muffled dialogue?

Is it a directorial signature he uses to make the films seem deeper and more complex than they really are - having to rewatch, study and ruminate on what the characters are actually saying?

Does he have some in joke that script writers and actors are really quite irrelevant to the whole thing and as long as a film looks visually good, that’s all that really matters?

Or did he sleep with the sound guys wife a long way back and it’s just a continuous vendetta against Nolan?

It’s obviously intentional, but I find muffled dialogue to be the worst thing in any film and will immediately turn me off.

People have said in the past that if you cannot understand the dialogue, you should be concentrating harder. There comes a point when it’s all undermined by just appearing to be poor quality control.

Maybe Nolan just has a hearing problem?!
hehe

It does seem to be a Nolan signature. Great director in most other ways but someone should tell him a movie isn't improved by not being able to hear the actors!

frisbee

5,384 posts

128 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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The sound was pretty terrible. Other than that it was a pretty average film.

clive_candy

865 posts

183 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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Yep, could make out about 75% of what was being said and understood somewhat less.

And given this is Pistonheads, how come nobody has mentioned the Saab that plays a prominent role? Some kind of time inversion thing?

hyphen

26,262 posts

108 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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frisbee said:
The sound was pretty terrible. Other than that it was a pretty average film.
Is it all cinemas? Is it perhaps designed for Atmos or another specific sound system?

Just wondering if you all are seeing it in a old cinema, or new one. Think I will go and watch it in Leicester Square!

smn159

14,544 posts

235 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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hyphen said:
frisbee said:
The sound was pretty terrible. Other than that it was a pretty average film.
Is it all cinemas? Is it perhaps designed for Atmos or another specific sound system?

Just wondering if you all are seeing it in a old cinema, or new one. Think I will go and watch it in Leicester Square!
Our local Odeon has just been upgraded to a 'Luxe' with Atmos - this sounded dreadful

The electric reclining seats were nice though

hyphen

26,262 posts

108 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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Thanks, had a look around and internationally all are saying same.

Nolan and his sound crew must have some weird setup in their studio!

Edited by hyphen on Thursday 27th August 21:10

frisbee

5,384 posts

128 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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hyphen said:
frisbee said:
The sound was pretty terrible. Other than that it was a pretty average film.
Is it all cinemas? Is it perhaps designed for Atmos or another specific sound system?

Just wondering if you all are seeing it in a old cinema, or new one. Think I will go and watch it in Leicester Square!
Fairly new IMAX.

Pommy

14,440 posts

234 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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frisbee said:
hyphen said:
frisbee said:
The sound was pretty terrible. Other than that it was a pretty average film.
Is it all cinemas? Is it perhaps designed for Atmos or another specific sound system?

Just wondering if you all are seeing it in a old cinema, or new one. Think I will go and watch it in Leicester Square!
Fairly new IMAX.
I'm in Australia and it sounded poor.

Newc

2,133 posts

200 months

Thursday 27th August 2020
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Superb and imaginative story, and photography, and sets. Absolutely outstanding.

Utterly terrible sound mixing. THE MUSIC THE MUSIC IT BURNS MY EARS and I can't hear what anyone is saying.

But not hearing what they said wasn't that much of a problem as it was either clunky exposition or wibbly wobbly timey wimey nonsense.

Really nice to be in a cinema again though.