RE: GMA T.50 laps Le Mans (on a dyno) | Time for Tea?

RE: GMA T.50 laps Le Mans (on a dyno) | Time for Tea?

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JoeMk1

377 posts

173 months

Thursday 1st April 2021
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Is it just me that can never see the whole video in PH posts?



Viewing on a PC via Chrome, same story if I use Edge

ecsrobin

17,298 posts

167 months

Thursday 1st April 2021
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Nobody else wonder why Le Sarthe as a test track? Assume that’s them dropping that they’re going for the Le Mans hypercar catergory?

Jules Henry

53 posts

128 months

Thursday 1st April 2021
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the Carguy said:
Anybody else bored with the Hype ?
What??? when was the last time a legit car company built a drivers manual V12 instead of a handbag. I find it bold & exciting. Porsche seem to be the only other ones listening by atleast offering the GT3 in manual. Now if Ferrari could build an F40 2.0 instead of trinkets how good would that be? For me the power race just seems like a race to the bottom

budgie smuggler

5,417 posts

161 months

Thursday 1st April 2021
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JoeMk1 said:
Is it just me that can never see the whole video in PH posts?



Viewing on a PC via Chrome, same story if I use Edge
Same here, firefox.

ecsrobin

17,298 posts

167 months

Thursday 1st April 2021
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budgie smuggler said:
JoeMk1 said:
Is it just me that can never see the whole video in PH posts?



Viewing on a PC via Chrome, same story if I use Edge
Same here, firefox.
I have the same issue on iOS but when you click the video it goes full screen.

dinkel

27,008 posts

260 months

Thursday 1st April 2021
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It sounds great.

For me this is what it's really about. Imperfection makes for unbelievable noises.

Tipo 33/12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWe_bcu36YE

312P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dFzgsq49R8

The richness of these 2 valve 3 liters is awesome.

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 1st April 2021
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the Carguy said:
Anybody else bored with the Hype ?
No, because it feels a bit like twilight of the idols. 40 years ago, I'd have agreed with you. But this, in a very real sense, is the end of a line. I'm delighted it exists at all ...

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

227 months

Thursday 1st April 2021
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ecsrobin said:
budgie smuggler said:
JoeMk1 said:
Is it just me that can never see the whole video in PH posts?



Viewing on a PC via Chrome, same story if I use Edge
Same here, firefox.
I have the same issue on iOS but when you click the video it goes full screen.
It's because PH have the viewport for the video set to 1008px wide, but the CSS applied to the div it's in is set to 615px. Hence the cropping.

boxerTen

501 posts

206 months

Thursday 1st April 2021
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The exhaust manifolds on each bank collect cylinders 1, 3 and 5, into one group of three, and cylinders 2, 4, and 6 into a second group of 3. Normally a V12 collects the front 3 cylinders of each bank into a group and the rear 3 cylinders into a second group. One wonders if the firing order is different than usual, or the cranks are at different angles, or whether one just gets better breathing from different grouping. Be interested to know the reason ...

varsas

4,015 posts

204 months

Thursday 1st April 2021
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boxerTen said:
The exhaust manifolds on each bank collect cylinders 1, 3 and 5, into one group of three, and cylinders 2, 4, and 6 into a second group of 3. Normally a V12 collects the front 3 cylinders of each bank into a group and the rear 3 cylinders into a second group. One wonders if the firing order is different than usual, or the cranks are at different angles, or whether one just gets better breathing from different grouping. Be interested to know the reason ...
So you want the pulses in your exhaust to be 'even', that is to follow a nice even rhythm, with no gaps. Doing the exhaust as you described does that, anything else does not.

You could alter the firing order in a V12 but the overall pattern is so easy, clear, obvious and has so many benefits you'd never change that, hence the best exhaust design will always be the same. I am sure those other V12's had different exhaust designs due to cost/packaging reasons?

You are right though, the McLaren F1 engine and some V12 F1 engines I have seen are 1,2,3 / 4,5,6 -> 1 . Am I wrong?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2...



Mafffew

2,149 posts

113 months

Thursday 1st April 2021
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the Carguy said:
Anybody else bored with the Hype ?
Sort of, I think it's cool the car exists and it sounds great. But I find it difficult to get excited over something that I will likely never see, drive or own.

BVB

1,107 posts

155 months

Thursday 1st April 2021
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Sounds pretty cool, but not the awesome shriek of a Ferrari or Lambo V12.

Sandpit Steve

10,433 posts

76 months

Thursday 1st April 2021
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cookie1600 said:
This or the Aston Valkyrie n/a V12 revving to 11,000 rpm? It seems like Cosworth are developing the last of the great screaming V12s, I wonder what their future is in an all electric car world.
Being one of the few left standing, still building proper engines?

daytona111r

782 posts

206 months

Thursday 1st April 2021
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Sounds like an air raid siren.

Really excited by this, but whatever that fan does is not worth it for the looks.

Slippydiff

14,938 posts

225 months

Thursday 1st April 2021
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If GM can make the induction noise sound even close to this :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHgD0wJGcR0

and I reckon he will smile

I'll enjoy every second behind the wheel of mine ... driving

Hopefully it'll sound every bit as good as the Zonda F from outside too :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEpxGhCoMDI

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

227 months

Thursday 1st April 2021
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Slippydiff said:
If GM can make the induction noise sound even close to this :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHgD0wJGcR0

and I reckon he will smile

I'll enjoy every second behind the wheel of mine ... driving

Hopefully it'll sound every bit as good as the Zonda F from outside too :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEpxGhCoMDI
HP is no drag racer, is he? biggrin

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

227 months

Thursday 1st April 2021
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daytona111r said:
Sounds like an air raid siren.

Really excited by this, but whatever that fan does is not worth it for the looks.
Fan looks fricken awesome - and I say that as a middle aged man with a teenage boy mindset when it comes to hypercars. smile

Niffty951

2,334 posts

230 months

Thursday 1st April 2021
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dinkel said:
Sweet Jesus

Smitters

4,014 posts

159 months

Thursday 1st April 2021
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I'll hand my PH card in on the way out. I think that sounds dreadful.

Fink-Nottle

388 posts

44 months

Thursday 1st April 2021
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You're not the only one. It sounds like a dentist's drill. From Hell.

This is not an April's Fools, surely.

Right?