Police stop speeding cyclists
Discussion
IJWS15 said:
This was in a 30 today.
Sadly I didn’t see a policeman stopping the cars that were travelling faster than me.
In Oxford one of my first times out on my road bike, I hit 44 down Headington Hill, which is a 30. I know that only from Strava running in my pocket - at the time I actually thought it was 30 mph. Because the bus numerous car lengths ahead was doing the same speed!Sadly I didn’t see a policeman stopping the cars that were travelling faster than me.
Mave said:
Well, when you refer to someone "proclaiming" something, there's an implication that it's an opinion rather than a fact.
Thanks for the advice, however you may benefit from looking at the definition of proclaiming before trying to be a smart arse 
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ChocolateFrog said:
Hedgedhog said:
Cycling at 40mph on public roads with nothing but a layer of spandex for protection and a contact patch of 2 square inches is pretty suicidal.
Utter rubbish. I've done 70 down an Alp, which does feel a bit twitchy.
40 is absolutely fine, I'll hit that every ride.
If you think riding at more than 30mph on a public road on a bike is safe, you crack on pal.
What I do know, is that when you meet little old lady / boy racer doing 30(ish) the other way, head on, good luck.
Just because you can and think you're hard/safe/big man/entitled doesn't change the behavior of everyone else.
What I do know, is that when you meet little old lady / boy racer doing 30(ish) the other way, head on, good luck.
Just because you can and think you're hard/safe/big man/entitled doesn't change the behavior of everyone else.
dundarach said:
If you think riding at more than 30mph on a public road on a bike is safe, you crack on pal.
What I do know, is that when you meet little old lady / boy racer doing 30(ish) the other way, head on, good luck.
Just because you can and think you're hard/safe/big man/entitled doesn't change the behavior of everyone else.
If they're coming head on here they're on the wrong side of the dual carriageway! And I'd also spot them coming a mile off.What I do know, is that when you meet little old lady / boy racer doing 30(ish) the other way, head on, good luck.
Just because you can and think you're hard/safe/big man/entitled doesn't change the behavior of everyone else.
Bigends said:
Pica-Pica said:
Solocle said:
agtlaw said:
As mentioned on the previous page, the offence is Causing injury by wanton or furious driving.
There is also the Town Police Clauses Act 1847, which doesn't require injury, but has to occur in a town.
Act said:
This Act shall extend only to such towns or districts in England or Ireland as shall be comprised in any Act of Parliament hereafter to be passed which shall declare that this Act shall be incorporated therewith; and all the clauses of this Act, save so far as they shall be expressly varied or excepted by any such Act,
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/24-25/10...
I suspect the police were probably acting reasonably as 40mph on a road bike in a 30mph limit will feel very obviously too fast with respect to reasonable stopping distances for the situation. Being exempt from speed limits doesn't make you exempt from being a dick.
Why it merits a news story is more pertinent. Given the multiple people killed and injured by drivers every single day, and the ubiquitous incidence of crap and dangerous driving that is seen on almost every journey, the one time a cyclist does something silly it gets broadcast in the news? It's like the numpties that like to bleat on about that one time they saw a cyclist run a red light, whilst forgetting the hundreds of cars they've seen do the same thing.
Why it merits a news story is more pertinent. Given the multiple people killed and injured by drivers every single day, and the ubiquitous incidence of crap and dangerous driving that is seen on almost every journey, the one time a cyclist does something silly it gets broadcast in the news? It's like the numpties that like to bleat on about that one time they saw a cyclist run a red light, whilst forgetting the hundreds of cars they've seen do the same thing.
remedy said:
Pretty obvious these guys are going downhill. They stop pedalling at points.
Going over zebra crossings and the likes through a built up area is different to down a country lane.
Ebikes make it more likely that the 30mph limit will be breached in these residential areas.
Ebikes are limited to 15.5mph, after which assistance is removed. Endless a deliveroo rider, which use modes versions that you don't even need to pedal...illegal but a blind eye is turned, by employer and the law.Going over zebra crossings and the likes through a built up area is different to down a country lane.
Ebikes make it more likely that the 30mph limit will be breached in these residential areas.
A better target for police to prosecute.
Solocle said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Hedgedhog said:
Cycling at 40mph on public roads with nothing but a layer of spandex for protection and a contact patch of 2 square inches is pretty suicidal.
Utter rubbish. I've done 70 down an Alp, which does feel a bit twitchy.
40 is absolutely fine, I'll hit that every ride.
ChocolateFrog said:
Utter rubbish.
I've done 70 down an Alp, which does feel a bit twitchy.
40 is absolutely fine, I'll hit that every ride.
You are entitled to your own opinion of course but I would have to disagree. I didn't say it wasn't possible, I would say it is extremely inadvisable wearing nothing but spandex on a push bike. There is no margin for error on an unpredictable surface with inadequate brakes and insufficient cohesion in the event of any unanticipated event. There is a reason that motorcyclists generally wear crash helmets and protective gear despite having a more stable platform, wider tires and better brakes. The faster you go the more it hurts when you stop suddenly or find yourself sliding down the road.I've done 70 down an Alp, which does feel a bit twitchy.
40 is absolutely fine, I'll hit that every ride.
TurboHatchback said:
I suspect the police were probably acting reasonably as 40mph on a road bike in a 30mph limit will feel very obviously too fast with respect to reasonable stopping distances for the situation. Being exempt from speed limits doesn't make you exempt from being a dick.
Why it merits a news story is more pertinent. Given the multiple people killed and injured by drivers every single day, and the ubiquitous incidence of crap and dangerous driving that is seen on almost every journey, the one time a cyclist does something silly it gets broadcast in the news? It's like the numpties that like to bleat on about that one time they saw a cyclist run a red light, whilst forgetting the hundreds of cars they've seen do the same thing.
If you look at the end of the video, on the right is a chap in high viz.Why it merits a news story is more pertinent. Given the multiple people killed and injured by drivers every single day, and the ubiquitous incidence of crap and dangerous driving that is seen on almost every journey, the one time a cyclist does something silly it gets broadcast in the news? It's like the numpties that like to bleat on about that one time they saw a cyclist run a red light, whilst forgetting the hundreds of cars they've seen do the same thing.
I suspect it was Pensioners' Speed Friday and the police were doing a hearts and mind exercise for their community speed watch.
agtlaw said:
andrebar said:
“Wanton & furious driving” iirc dates back to the 1860s & was rolled out to convict a London cyclist after manslaughter charges were ruled out. Probably a bit on the harsh side for 40 in a 30 limit!
As mentioned on the previous page, the offence is Causing injury by wanton or furious driving. Aretnap said:
Also, the statute specifically says "bodily harm".
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/24-25/10...
Sentencing Council consultation on Causing injury by wanton or furious driving includes some examples:https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/24-25/10...
- Death
- Grave and/or life-threatening injury caused
- Injury results in physical or psychological harm resulting in lifelong dependency on third party care or medical treatment
- Offence results in a permanent, irreversible injury or condition
Hedgedhog said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Utter rubbish.
I've done 70 down an Alp, which does feel a bit twitchy.
40 is absolutely fine, I'll hit that every ride.
You are entitled to your own opinion of course but I would have to disagree. I didn't say it wasn't possible, I would say it is extremely inadvisable wearing nothing but spandex on a push bike. There is no margin for error on an unpredictable surface with inadequate brakes and insufficient cohesion in the event of any unanticipated event. There is a reason that motorcyclists generally wear crash helmets and protective gear despite having a more stable platform, wider tires and better brakes. The faster you go the more it hurts when you stop suddenly or find yourself sliding down the road.I've done 70 down an Alp, which does feel a bit twitchy.
40 is absolutely fine, I'll hit that every ride.
Same as I found it fun to climb the infamous Downhill Racer (E4 6B) or solo ice climbs in La Grave. It's not fun falling off, but life isn't meant to be spent watching Ex on the Beach and reading the Mail.
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