Police moving away from Volvo?

[K9-11]

mikeiow said:

How often do you think response teams exceed that?
Gotta be very rare, surely?
I doubt they go over 100 very often, even on a clear motorway .

This is very incorrect... most units that utilise the Volvo platform will be advanced drivers in specialist policing areas.. APU, RPU, Dogs ect. We will very frequently be above 100.

Also.. the Volvo platform is hated by every unit that has to currently utilise them. Everyone is very much looking forward to going back to VAG.

[pavarotti1980]

K9-11 said:

This is very incorrect... most units that utilise the Volvo platform will be advanced drivers in specialist policing areas.. APU, RPU, Dogs ect. We will very frequently be above 100.

Also.. the Volvo platform is hated by every unit that has to currently utilise them. Everyone is very much looking forward to going back to VAG.

One of these?


or

[Nibbles_bits]

Quattr04. said:

Sheepshanks said:

Perhaps the VAG net could be widened to include Porsche Cayenne?

Last time I saw a thread like this it was something along the lines of VAG had offered forces cayennes for the same price as a X5 but it was public perception that put them off, imagine the Facebook warriors these days!

I wonder what will replace the touregs since they ve gone out of production? I imagine Q7 as Avon police have some of them

Or maybe a Jaecoo

That story, or a similar one, is always doing the rounds.

Remember when BMW offered to supply all response cars?
But public perception........

[LosingGrip]

mikeiow said:

How often do you think response teams exceed that?
Gotta be very rare, surely?
I doubt they go over 100 very often, even on a clear motorway .

Fairly regularly. Even not on motorways.

[Easternlight]

There's a couple of Tesla's going around Lowestoft with Suffolk police.

Edited by Easternlight on Thursday 18th December 19:06

[catso]

Our local force have (blue or black?) Skoda as their 'fast' car.

meanwhile in Italy;

[ExBoringVolvoDriver]

Or even this one

[unzippy]

Jamescrs said:

A significant and pretty much unsurmountable problem with the Volvo XC90's for use as RPU and Firearms is that the safety features on the latest ones causes significant issues for certain techniques eg TPAC manoeuvres, the Volvo will actively fight the driver not to collide with another vehicle and Volvo have refused to deactivate it for Police vehicles.

XC90's are (relatively speaking) very cheap for the Police to buy from Volvo but they are deemed not fit for purpose for many uses.

Something as mundane as crossing the white line without indicating will get you dragged back to your lane...

[ashenfie]

LosingGrip said:

mikeiow said:

How often do you think response teams exceed that?
Gotta be very rare, surely?
I doubt they go over 100 very often, even on a clear motorway .

Fairly regularly. Even not on motorways.

The biggest issue that pursuit car engine tick over for long periods of time which is not great for the engines due to the low oil pressure.

[K9-11]

pavarotti1980 said:

One of these?


or

In my role I'd take the estate for the dogs! What a lovely looking motor and would be great for the role.. however.. currently waiting on superbs which we are very much looking forward to.

[stevemcs]

K9-11 said:

In my role I'd take the estate for the dogs! What a lovely looking motor and would be great for the role.. however.. currently waiting on superbs which we are very much looking forward to.

The dogs will love the superb, the driver might not love the seats

[carreauchompeur]

The main problem emerging is weight, and weight limits. This rules out loads of the hybrids.

I’m not sure if my force is unique for having weighed the RPU cars, but now they have, a lot have ridiculous restrictions on the carriage of passengers, kit etc.

I’m not convinced about the need for quite so many cones, etc, but the powers that be are.

The Superbs on fleet are a good drive I find, but wallowy sometimes due to kit. A6 3.0TDI a really nice drive but now discontinued I gather?

Volvos…yeah… at least they take the weight!

[pavarotti1980]

K9-11 said:

In my role I'd take the estate for the dogs! What a lovely looking motor and would be great for the role.. however.. currently waiting on superbs which we are very much looking forward to.

They have some slightly older mondeos, ford focus estates and transits for the dogs.

[edthefed]

carreauchompeur said:

The main problem emerging is weight, and weight limits. This rules out loads of the hybrids.

I m not sure if my force is unique for having weighed the RPU cars, but now they have, a lot have ridiculous restrictions on the carriage of passengers, kit etc.

I m not convinced about the need for quite so many cones, etc, but the powers that be are.

The Superbs on fleet are a good drive I find, but wallowy sometimes due to kit. A6 3.0TDI a really nice drive but now discontinued I gather?

Volvos yeah at least they take the weight!

Its been an issue for many years BMW 530D were right on the weight limit when used as ARVs hence the move to X5s before the move away from BMW.

Many PSU / Protected carriers have been found to be overweight on the front axle, having the prisoner cell over the rear axles meant all the cops were sat towards the front of the vehicle putting it overweight on the front axle. One of the reasons for having shelving / storage for kit bags / Door rams etc at the back of the van over the rear wheels

[Greendubber]

stevemcs said:

K9-11 said:

In my role I'd take the estate for the dogs! What a lovely looking motor and would be great for the role.. however.. currently waiting on superbs which we are very much looking forward to.

The dogs will love the superb, the driver might not love the seats

Octavia VRS for dogs here, neighbouring forces have the Superbs.

[K9-11]

pavarotti1980 said:

They have some slightly older mondeos, ford focus estates and transits for the dogs.

I like the mondogs they are great cars, though we opted for the ST line ones so the ground clearance causes some issues.

We tried the v90's and just don't get along with them, cage design isn't great.

[LosingGrip]

carreauchompeur said:

The main problem emerging is weight, and weight limits. This rules out loads of the hybrids.

I m not sure if my force is unique for having weighed the RPU cars, but now they have, a lot have ridiculous restrictions on the carriage of passengers, kit etc.

I m not convinced about the need for quite so many cones, etc, but the powers that be are.

The Superbs on fleet are a good drive I find, but wallowy sometimes due to kit. A6 3.0TDI a really nice drive but now discontinued I gather?

Volvos yeah at least they take the weight!

We did one of ours recently and it was all good weight wise (no getting out of custody runs like ARV...).

Other forces can only use them single crewed due to weight issues. No idea what they are putting in them.

[Stedman]

LosingGrip said:

We did one of ours recently and it was all good weight wise (no getting out of custody runs like ARV...).

Other forces can only use them single crewed due to weight issues. No idea what they are putting in them.

I'd say this is bonkers, however the local force here quite often only have three RPU officers for the whole county, doubling crewing isn't a 'problem'

LosingGrip said:

Fairly regularly. Even not on motorways.

I wondered how long it would be before the second sentence appeared here

Edited by Stedman on Friday 19th December 11:52

[The big yin]

I saw an Audi A6 yesterday in Dumfries SF75 registration so I assume they have bought a few .
Looked ok

[matchmaker]

LosingGrip said:

We did one of ours recently and it was all good weight wise (no getting out of custody runs like ARV...).

Other forces can only use them single crewed due to weight issues. No idea what they are putting in them.

That would be a bit of an issue in Scotland!