Avengers 3: Infinity War
Discussion
KrazyIvan said:
As for predictions, I hope they don't do the whole "let's fix it by time travel" thing.
I would say it's kinda a given, since we have the time stone, and Thanos already used it to 'win'I guess the interesting thing that does somewhat differs from many time travel plots however is the concept introduced in Dr Strange that there are always negative repercussions to it's use:
Mordo: "You think there will be no consequences, Strange? No price to pay? We broke our rules, just like her. The bill comes due. Always!"
My take is time travel will be invoked - but there will have to be sacrifices and losses to balance the positive aspects.
irocfan said:
Halb said:
very good vid on it here
interesting (although her voice grates), I do have a degree of sympathy for Disney but she nailed it on the whole "...it's a family values company..." and potentially not compatible with some of the people they have brought onboard. Gunn is an interesting case though since his comments were made, and (crucially) known about, before mousehouse hired him.Dave Bautista vs Disney over James Gunn Controversy
https://youtu.be/X6PuZ93wumUDoes this new puritanism sweeping Hollywood mean then that we're going to see sackings of substance abusers, taxdodgers etc etc?
Ta da.
Give it a week, and the spotlight/crucible/twitter witchhunt will move on.
KrazyIvan said:
No one else bothered by the fact it was only half a film!
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Was it? .
It is only half a film if you buy into the idea that the Avengers must win everything.
The Infinity War happened - the Avengers lost it.
There will doutbless be a follow up event - but it'll be a different thing.
ukaskew said:
I'm guessing these predictions were written before seeing Ant Man and the Wasp? I'd be amazed if Ant Man doesn't play a significant role considering the hints dropped in that film.
I decided Shuri would become Iron Man when I watched Black Panther and I'm not deviating from that!
In the comics Iron Man has handed over to Iron Heart, a 15 year old engineering student girl. The movies are their own thing though so Shuri could fit. I decided Shuri would become Iron Man when I watched Black Panther and I'm not deviating from that!
Edited by ukaskew on Wednesday 8th August 00:08
Gargamel said:
It's corporate cowardice though. Disney could have put out a presser, "We were already aware of the 15 year old comments of a much younger James Gunn as he struggled to launch his edgy stand up comedy routine. James has already apologised for these comments over five years ago, and we consider the matter to be closed. People do say and make foolish decisions in their youth, and James's views today are in line with those of a family orientated entertainment company. "
Ta da.
Give it a week, and the spotlight/crucible/twitter witchhunt will move on.
Exactly. Ta da.
Give it a week, and the spotlight/crucible/twitter witchhunt will move on.
Some at Disney likely already knew about the tweets - so to sack him just because somebody dug them back up again seems to reinforce the position that 'it's ok, as long as nobody shouts about/publicises it'.
This is surely one of the attitudes that lead to things like the 'MeToo' campaign in the first place.
They'd have been far better off handling as above - make him apologise again if necessary, then move on.
Disney themselves have a less than stellar record when it comes to dodgy things in the past, so they should be more than willing to recognise that mistakes can be made.
We seem to be going back to the dark ages with these witch hunts and trial by social media.
ajprice said:
ukaskew said:
I'm guessing these predictions were written before seeing Ant Man and the Wasp? I'd be amazed if Ant Man doesn't play a significant role considering the hints dropped in that film.
I decided Shuri would become Iron Man when I watched Black Panther and I'm not deviating from that!
In the comics Iron Man has handed over to Iron Heart, a 15 year old engineering student girl. The movies are their own thing though so Shuri could fit. I decided Shuri would become Iron Man when I watched Black Panther and I'm not deviating from that!
Edited by ukaskew on Wednesday 8th August 00:08
They really could ruin a big chunk of it over a brief social media outrage. I guess they didn't think the people around him would back him and they could just dump him and move on. Poor strategy if nothing else.
As for Infinity War it has lots of good moments but there isn't really much of a story is there? Lucky they did such a good job with Thanos and a couple of other bits or it really wouldn't work.
As for Infinity War it has lots of good moments but there isn't really much of a story is there? Lucky they did such a good job with Thanos and a couple of other bits or it really wouldn't work.
Gargamel said:
irocfan said:
Halb said:
very good vid on it here
interesting (although her voice grates), I do have a degree of sympathy for Disney but she nailed it on the whole "...it's a family values company..." and potentially not compatible with some of the people they have brought onboard. Gunn is an interesting case though since his comments were made, and (crucially) known about, before mousehouse hired him.Dave Bautista vs Disney over James Gunn Controversy
https://youtu.be/X6PuZ93wumUDoes this new puritanism sweeping Hollywood mean then that we're going to see sackings of substance abusers, taxdodgers etc etc?
Ta da.
Give it a week, and the spotlight/crucible/twitter witchhunt will move on.
lemmingjames said:
Shuri to become Iron-Man (and be a lesbian so it fits in with the SJW boxes)
Thor to Die
Cap makes the ultimate sacrifice and picks up Thors axe to beheaded Thanos or cut the arm off (would Disney allow a beheading?)
Maybe not onscreen, but we already saw them smashing what's-his-name head in with a big hammer in GotGThor to Die
Cap makes the ultimate sacrifice and picks up Thors axe to beheaded Thanos or cut the arm off (would Disney allow a beheading?)
James Rhodes was Iron-Man for a long time, in fact he was Iron-Man when I started reading Marvel. Didn't know about Stark
We're way past that though. I did think we'd see the death of cap and/or thor, but both actors seem to really like their characters, and previous motions over leaving might have been contract savvy dealings, grace (and her beautiful voice) has a video on it.
but contracts do come into it, and all the big ones are up...but the new guys don't have the draw or the charisma of the old ones...so what to do? Antman and Wasp is ranking 18th in takings currently, it may get to 16.
Also, Feig, will he stay or go. A lot going on, and not just with THanos
We're way past that though. I did think we'd see the death of cap and/or thor, but both actors seem to really like their characters, and previous motions over leaving might have been contract savvy dealings, grace (and her beautiful voice) has a video on it.
but contracts do come into it, and all the big ones are up...but the new guys don't have the draw or the charisma of the old ones...so what to do? Antman and Wasp is ranking 18th in takings currently, it may get to 16.
Also, Feig, will he stay or go. A lot going on, and not just with THanos
Durzel said:
It's not just money, I doubt either of them want to just be remembered for what ultimately are fairly narrow roles.
I'd disagree, for various reasons, both characters are not narrow, for different reasons. But beyond the actual characters in universe, they're iconic or heading that way out of it, not because of the characters, but because of the actors, Chris Evans/Cap has risen into something pretty big, Iron-Man reminded people how amazing RDJ is, and the whole, 'the whole is bigger than the individual parts' thing, the ten years in the making concept is darn impressive. This seems to be the defining part of their careers. I'm happy whatever happens, so long as they keep to the standard they've set. But I won't tolerate a comic reboot, I don't see Feig doing that, but it's possible those with less vision (and intelligence at Disney might attempt it), who knows, I'lljust sit and wait as a fan.Halb said:
I'd disagree, for various reasons, both characters are not narrow, for different reasons. But beyond the actual characters in universe, they're iconic or heading that way out of it, not because of the characters, but because of the actors, Chris Evans/Cap has risen into something pretty big, Iron-Man reminded people how amazing RDJ is, and the whole, 'the whole is bigger than the individual parts' thing, the ten years in the making concept is darn impressive. This seems to be the defining part of their careers. I'm happy whatever happens, so long as they keep to the standard they've set. But I won't tolerate a comic reboot, I don't see Feig doing that, but it's possible those with less vision (and intelligence at Disney might attempt it), who knows, I'lljust sit and wait as a fan.
Whatever happens post Infinity War part 2 - this series of films will have been rounded off nicely. If Disney start screwing up what comes after - i'll be pretty happy to just stop there.Moonhawk said:
Whatever happens post Infinity War part 2 - this series of films will have been rounded off nicely. If Disney start screwing up what comes after - i'll be pretty happy to just stop there.
It's entirely possible that once the Fox/Disney deal happens they'll start to introduce the mutants back into it, X-Men, FF4 etc and we'll have a whole new lot of movies to go and watch again. Cap, Ironman etc will still be there but only in cameo and movies will be based around other characters for ten years more, then a complete reboot.Moonhawk said:
MissChief said:
then a complete reboot.
I doubt we'll ever see the likes of the current MCU ever again in cinema - it was unprecedented - and will likely remain the only example of a 10 year, 20+ movie franchise/story arc actually working.Gassing Station | TV, Film, Video Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff