Game of Thrones - vol II - NO SPOILERS
Discussion
Clockwork Cupcake said:
Well, true. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony; you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you.
It's just the violence inherent in the system.
chris watton said:
The way I see it is that the White Walkers and the Night King is predominantly Jon's arc. He should have been the one to resolve this.
As someone else said, it would be like the end fight in Return of the Jedi with Luke and Vader, except Chewbacca rocks up and shoots Vader dead.
Arya, set up for years - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv5J2LUSobkAs someone else said, it would be like the end fight in Return of the Jedi with Luke and Vader, except Chewbacca rocks up and shoots Vader dead.
SlimJim16v said:
The WW generals were criminaly unused. They should've waded in once Winterfell was overrun. I would've loved a face off with the magnificent seven.
If Euron gets killed, then Yara controls the Iron Born.
I agree.If Euron gets killed, then Yara controls the Iron Born.
The latter is not so, though, there is no hereditary system on the Iron Islands. They pick their monarchs.
FourWheelDrift said:
Arya, set up for years - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv5J2LUSobk
That's a great little video. It makes a lot of sense. Halb said:
I fully agree with that statement if, one accepts that the qualities of a king is to be utterly incompetent, make s
tty decision after stty decision, alienate powerful allies and be saved in the nick of time everytime by friends, because he is supernaturally charismatic. 
1. Faced the Bolton Cavalry on his own before having zero tactics to cope with the Roman Legionesque tactics
2. Sending the Dothraki in first,
3. Building a fire trench behind his army
4. Shouting at dragons he is ok at that I will admit that.
He is more like a British Army Rupert in WWI, I am hoping that either the Mountain crushes his head or the smallest dragon shags him to death.
gregs656 said:
chris watton said:
The way I see it is that the White Walkers and the Night King is predominantly Jon's arc. He should have been the one to resolve this.
And what I am saying is that he has rarely resolved anything on his own, his move was and has been to bring in people to help him do the job, so it totally fits. 
John's strength has been his ability to inspire loyalty due to his selflessness and honourable character.By every other metric (political skill, military tactics, fighting ability) he's been found wanting on many occasions and thise who join him often do so against their better judgement.Arya has wanted to be a ninja since episode 1 and taught by best killers going in nearly every season. If everyone has a purpose in the Stark family, then Arya's is to kill the really hard to kill ones.
Theon seems to have just been a standard redemption arc. Would have liked a bit more of cocky (sorry) young Theon at the end, though.
glazbagun said:
Would have liked a bit more of cocky (sorry) young Theon at the end, though.
He certainly nailed the "Senseless Sacrifice" redemption trope, for sure.
Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Thursday 2nd May 18:03
FourWheelDrift said:
Halb said:
I enjoyed much o parts of it, but yes, some parts were just bizarre and incredibly bad.
THe quality control is like the beast at Alton Towers.
So Wolverine kills a creature that's been around for 8,000 years? And now all supernatural threats are ended, and so his watch is done, no need for the wall, no need for the Night's Watch, good cas they're all dead! Branbot 4000 and the ravens? WTH?
Yes because if they didn't the end result was obvious, because the result wasn't obvious doesn't make it bad.THe quality control is like the beast at Alton Towers.
So Wolverine kills a creature that's been around for 8,000 years? And now all supernatural threats are ended, and so his watch is done, no need for the wall, no need for the Night's Watch, good cas they're all dead! Branbot 4000 and the ravens? WTH?
Clockwork Cupcake said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Arya, set up for years - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv5J2LUSobk
That's a great little video. It makes a lot of sense. “Gendry was the only man to see Arya coming”
gregs656 said:
SlimJim16v said:
The WW generals were criminaly unused. They should've waded in once Winterfell was overrun. I would've loved a face off with the magnificent seven.
If Euron gets killed, then Yara controls the Iron Born.
I agree.If Euron gets killed, then Yara controls the Iron Born.
The latter is not so, though, there is no hereditary system on the Iron Islands. They pick their monarchs.
Halb said:
Butter Face said:
Imagine going back to season 1, episode 7 and Ned taking Renleys side and taking control of the kingdom. Life would have worked out better.
Or Ned simply leaving and not listening to LF!Ned defending a united, full strength north against the walkers!
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