F1 2019 - Barcelona 1st Test chat
F1 2019 - Barcelona 1st Test chat
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Andy S15

399 posts

150 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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The cost of that must have been staggering. From a tooling perspective, it's two completely different cars they've just made and rolled out in the space of 2 weeks (I know they will have been working longer in the background, but visibly).

Insanity.

Vaud

57,923 posts

178 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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Or just parallel development over a longer term (but yes costs are high)

TheDeuce

31,225 posts

89 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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MikeyC said:
VET 1m 18.425 - Track temp is 0 C
Fastest Qualy in 2018 was 1m 16.1, so pretty fast already if they're supposedly 1.5s slower than last year ?
Exactly. And they won't open the taps until the end of testing either. I understand the aero 'loses' 1.5-2 seconds but also, the cars become faster in general too. Actually I think the cars have retained more pace than they thought they would when they changed the aero rules..

I can certainly see 1:16s coming towards the end of week and then 2 more weeks of tweaking ahead of Melbourne. And of course, the warmer temps when they return to Barcelona.

They say you can't tell anything from testing but it's pretty clear we have a very fast grid this year.

rdjohn

6,979 posts

218 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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Andy S15 said:
The cost of that must have been staggering. From a tooling perspective, it's two completely different cars they've just made and rolled out in the space of 2 weeks (I know they will have been working longer in the background, but visibly).

Insanity.
Or perhaps 3D printed quite quickly?

Some Gump

13,010 posts

209 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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3d printing carbon fibre?

Come on RDJohn, you know better than that!

timnoyce

413 posts

204 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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I'm not suggesting that they did, but of course, 3D printing carbon fibre is possible. I've got a Markforged Mark 2 on my desk and that prints composite infused polymers which are really quite strong.

kambites

70,651 posts

244 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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Some Gump said:
3d printing carbon fibre?

Come on RDJohn, you know better than that!
I can't see why you shouldn't 3D print the moulds for hand-laying CF though, which would dramatically reduce the cost and time of setting things up.

I also suppose there's no reason they shouldn't prototype aero parts in something heavier that CF for testing. That would allow them to do their flow measurements at least.

Edited by kambites on Wednesday 27th February 09:40

Deesee

8,509 posts

106 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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Big impact for Vettel today.. (who is ok), Mechanical failure on the Ferrari.

https://streamable.com/193rq




Munter

31,330 posts

264 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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Deesee said:
Big impact for Vettel today.. (who is ok), Mechanical failure on the Ferrari.

https://streamable.com/193rq
Probably best to have 2nd test chat in the 2nd test thread. smile
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Deesee

8,509 posts

106 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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Munter said:
Deesee said:
Big impact for Vettel today.. (who is ok), Mechanical failure on the Ferrari.

https://streamable.com/193rq
Probably best to have 2nd test chat in the 2nd test thread. smile
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Thanks looks like I've missed a day hehe on the watch list now

rdjohn

6,979 posts

218 months

Thursday 28th February 2019
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Some Gump said:
3d printing carbon fibre?

Come on RDJohn, you know better than that!
A little enlightenment https://amfg.ai/2018/11/21/3d-printing-formula-one...

Megaflow

10,993 posts

248 months

Thursday 28th February 2019
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Hamilton has just done a 1:18.0 on the second hardest C2 tyre. Pirelli’s data says there is a 1.9 second improvement to the fastest tyre.

yikes

Europa1

10,923 posts

211 months

Thursday 28th February 2019
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Megaflow said:
Hamilton has just done a 1:18.0 on the second hardest C2 tyre. Pirelli’s data says there is a 1.9 second improvement to the fastest tyre.

yikes
May I recommend, sir or madam, the "F1 2019 - Barcelona 2nd Test chat" thread for comments on the F1 2019 Barcelona 2nd test?

Megaflow

10,993 posts

248 months

Thursday 28th February 2019
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Europa1 said:
May I recommend, sir or madam, the "F1 2019 - Barcelona 2nd Test chat" thread for comments on the F1 2019 Barcelona 2nd test?
You may...

Bugger!

:blush:

Some Gump

13,010 posts

209 months

Thursday 28th February 2019
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The parts they changed were the floor, sidepods etc.

Photos show a visible weave. The floor itself must surely have a specific layup because it has to be so strong, stiff and impact resistant..

That article extolls the advances 3d printing offers for models, prototyping / fit testing, and 3d printing metal parts. No way they made those new parts on a printer!