Surprising salaries.
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mph1977 said:
liner33 said:
Dentists have better hours 
Mine recently retired in his early 40's , I looked at his certificates on the wall and he qualified in 1992 a twenty year working life ok for some
however 'retirement' at whatever age for Doctors and dentists is rarely an actual retirement rather than a case of choosing where and when to work ...Mine recently retired in his early 40's , I looked at his certificates on the wall and he qualified in 1992 a twenty year working life ok for some
liner33 said:
Dentists have better hours
Mine recently retired in his early 40's , I looked at his certificates on the wall and he qualified in 1992 a twenty year working life ok for some
This absolutely 100% Mine recently retired in his early 40's , I looked at his certificates on the wall and he qualified in 1992 a twenty year working life ok for some
One of my pals looked into being a GP and decided against it due to the unsociable and lots of hours that junior doctors do to get there. He trained as a dentist and is out the door for 5 (ish) every night and has a very comfortable living.
He loves his job.
I haven't seen any jobs where the following can't be used to estimate the salary:
How many people could do it if they wanted to (only a few would have the talent to become a professional footballer however much they train)?
How much training is required (this investment will need to be repaid)?
Is there anything unsociable/dangerous to the job (e.g. shift work, working on oil rigs)? These will command a higher salary
Does the job directly benefit people or is the process very indirect (a nurse would see the benefits of the work they did, an accountant in a big company would benefit society through an indirect process of the company making more money, paying more tax and the government spending tax on more hospitals). The more indirect job should command a higher salary.
What are the typical hours worked in practice (a job where you are expected to work 60 hours a week when your contract says 40 will command a higher salary)?
Do you get to innovate and create anything new or do you follow procedures that others have written? (people will be attracted to innovation so jobs where you follow procedures would command a higher salary)
To what extent is the job secure (contract work would be less secure than permanent work for a company with a "hire and fire" culture, which would be less secure than a public sector job, so the contract work should command a higher salary).
If something goes wrong, what are the consequences? If these are people dying, this would command a higher salary.
How many people could do it if they wanted to (only a few would have the talent to become a professional footballer however much they train)?
How much training is required (this investment will need to be repaid)?
Is there anything unsociable/dangerous to the job (e.g. shift work, working on oil rigs)? These will command a higher salary
Does the job directly benefit people or is the process very indirect (a nurse would see the benefits of the work they did, an accountant in a big company would benefit society through an indirect process of the company making more money, paying more tax and the government spending tax on more hospitals). The more indirect job should command a higher salary.
What are the typical hours worked in practice (a job where you are expected to work 60 hours a week when your contract says 40 will command a higher salary)?
Do you get to innovate and create anything new or do you follow procedures that others have written? (people will be attracted to innovation so jobs where you follow procedures would command a higher salary)
To what extent is the job secure (contract work would be less secure than permanent work for a company with a "hire and fire" culture, which would be less secure than a public sector job, so the contract work should command a higher salary).
If something goes wrong, what are the consequences? If these are people dying, this would command a higher salary.
oddjober said:
Anyone self employed here?
when i hear all of his pension money i am green with envy. Makes me regret chasing my own thing now.
Agreed on the pension, but i make almost double being a contractor than working for the man, and i was making good money before i went Self employed. Plus you get TAx relief on Pension contributions anyway so at least you get something extra.when i hear all of his pension money i am green with envy. Makes me regret chasing my own thing now.
Alright no death in service but the wife is less inclined to kill me off as i am not worth a half decent (Wednesday) lottery win anymore, but so much more money now than before its hard for me to think i will ever go back to perm employment willingly.
AVP in back office. Im talking pure infrastructure starts off at £65k +pension+bonus. ..
Bloody crazy! I see people doing literally 8am -6pm and nowt in between. Very easy money if you have the patter...
Oh ands it feasible to make close to 500k gross in a year contracting In the same area.....I kid you not. Yes 500k in billable hours!
Bloody crazy! I see people doing literally 8am -6pm and nowt in between. Very easy money if you have the patter...
Oh ands it feasible to make close to 500k gross in a year contracting In the same area.....I kid you not. Yes 500k in billable hours!
Talking of dentists, I went for a check up today and while sitting there waiting for her, I considered what a bloody awful job it must be.
I appreciate that they make a damned good wage, but, and I'm being simplistic here, but each day they face a production line of halitosis riddled pensioners, and other folk with dubious oral hygiene.
" Ok, Mrs Smith upper left fine, upper right fine, e6 dodgy. etc etc- please come back in 6 months"- NEXT!
They must see a few dozen people a day and go through exactly the same rigmarole day in day out.
Chap I know inherited his fathers practice, and has a lovely house and a new GTR, and good for him, but it's not my cup of tea at all.
I appreciate that they make a damned good wage, but, and I'm being simplistic here, but each day they face a production line of halitosis riddled pensioners, and other folk with dubious oral hygiene.
" Ok, Mrs Smith upper left fine, upper right fine, e6 dodgy. etc etc- please come back in 6 months"- NEXT!
They must see a few dozen people a day and go through exactly the same rigmarole day in day out.
Chap I know inherited his fathers practice, and has a lovely house and a new GTR, and good for him, but it's not my cup of tea at all.
I saw this thread tonight which was a bit of a coincidence considering i had a email today after phone call with terms and conditions for a new job. Presently serving in the Army and leaving in about 6 weeks time after a 25yr career. I had actually agreed to another job which for that first step into civvy street i was more than happy, especially UK based at £38k with my Army pension on top of £1100 per month which i get monthly when i leave the Army.
Well thats now all changed as of tonight with a new salary of £8660 per month with the pension on top bring it closer to £10k. And to top it off, tax free.
To see im a little bit giddy is a understatement! Yes im of course happy but im glad that putting the Army first since i joined, done numerous tours, ruined a marriage and back in 1994 nearly killed me im happy for this payback as without the Army i would not have got this job.
Well thats now all changed as of tonight with a new salary of £8660 per month with the pension on top bring it closer to £10k. And to top it off, tax free.
To see im a little bit giddy is a understatement! Yes im of course happy but im glad that putting the Army first since i joined, done numerous tours, ruined a marriage and back in 1994 nearly killed me im happy for this payback as without the Army i would not have got this job.
Issi said:
Talking of dentists, I went for a check up today and while sitting there waiting for her, I considered what a bloody awful job it must be.
I appreciate that they make a damned good wage, but, and I'm being simplistic here, but each day they face a production line of halitosis riddled pensioners, and other folk with dubious oral hygiene.
" Ok, Mrs Smith upper left fine, upper right fine, e6 dodgy. etc etc- please come back in 6 months"- NEXT!
They must see a few dozen people a day and go through exactly the same rigmarole day in day out.
Chap I know inherited his fathers practice, and has a lovely house and a new GTR, and good for him, but it's not my cup of tea at all.
I have a couple of friends who went into Dentistry mainly because they couldn't get into Med - and secondly because of the money.I appreciate that they make a damned good wage, but, and I'm being simplistic here, but each day they face a production line of halitosis riddled pensioners, and other folk with dubious oral hygiene.
" Ok, Mrs Smith upper left fine, upper right fine, e6 dodgy. etc etc- please come back in 6 months"- NEXT!
They must see a few dozen people a day and go through exactly the same rigmarole day in day out.
Chap I know inherited his fathers practice, and has a lovely house and a new GTR, and good for him, but it's not my cup of tea at all.
After 3 months starting out in their job, they felt miserable and wished they had done something else.
Sometimes, the money is just not worth it.
petop said:
I saw this thread tonight which was a bit of a coincidence considering i had a email today after phone call with terms and conditions for a new job. Presently serving in the Army and leaving in about 6 weeks time after a 25yr career. I had actually agreed to another job which for that first step into civvy street i was more than happy, especially UK based at £38k with my Army pension on top of £1100 per month which i get monthly when i leave the Army.
Well thats now all changed as of tonight with a new salary of £8660 per month with the pension on top bring it closer to £10k. And to top it off, tax free.
To see im a little bit giddy is a understatement! Yes im of course happy but im glad that putting the Army first since i joined, done numerous tours, ruined a marriage and back in 1994 nearly killed me im happy for this payback as without the Army i would not have got this job.
Congratulations Well thats now all changed as of tonight with a new salary of £8660 per month with the pension on top bring it closer to £10k. And to top it off, tax free.
To see im a little bit giddy is a understatement! Yes im of course happy but im glad that putting the Army first since i joined, done numerous tours, ruined a marriage and back in 1994 nearly killed me im happy for this payback as without the Army i would not have got this job.
What's the new job?
HannsG said:
AVP in back office. Im talking pure infrastructure starts off at £65k +pension+bonus. ..
Bloody crazy! I see people doing literally 8am -6pm and nowt in between. Very easy money if you have the patter...
Oh ands it feasible to make close to 500k gross in a year contracting In the same area.....I kid you not. Yes 500k in billable hours!
Sorry thick bloke alert what's AVP?Bloody crazy! I see people doing literally 8am -6pm and nowt in between. Very easy money if you have the patter...
Oh ands it feasible to make close to 500k gross in a year contracting In the same area.....I kid you not. Yes 500k in billable hours!
HannsG said:
CHIEF said:
Sorry thick bloke alert what's AVP?
Title is "assistant vice president"..Middle management if that.....and thats a big if. Usually tend to be senior analysts
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