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Breadvan72 said:
Police and local authority close road, because people are driving to the seaside. This looks questionable. Note again the reliance on guidelines and not on the law.
https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/police-c...
I think their CC said they were going to stick the the first guidelines rather the revised guidelines issued by the College of Policing mid-week.https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/police-c...
He was mentioned in the Untouchables book. Seems he was involved in a unit trying to identify 250 corrupt police officers in the Met. Seems the figure of 250 was plucked from the air by an Assistant Commissioner or some such. The Authors of the book said he wanted to meet with them to explain it all but someone above him stopped it.
johnwilliams77 said:
skwdenyer said:
I’d say choose what your heart tells you to. If these any doubt in your mind about going then don’t; a relationship you need to think about saving probably isn’t one to try to save.
But if your heart says go then just do it, go. I’d say take a Zipcar. If stopped say you’re going to get shopping for her or somesuch.
Are you for fBut if your heart says go then just do it, go. I’d say take a Zipcar. If stopped say you’re going to get shopping for her or somesuch.
king real? People are dying and you think its funny to recommend zipcar to see some woman who cant stand him?I have no need to moralise about journeys. My view on that won’t change whether he goes or not. He will make up his own mind.
I do note that others didn’t say “don’t go because of CV” but instead said “don’t go because, err, not manly to do so...” It seems others have different views on masculinity from me, but they’re entitled to them. I’m happily married for many years, so what would I know about that?
carinaman said:
I think their CC said they were going to stick the the first guidelines rather the revised guidelines issued by the College of Policing mid-week.
He was mentioned in the Untouchables book. Seems he was involved in a unit trying to identify 250 corrupt police officers in the Met. Seems the figure of 250 was plucked from the air by an Assistant Commissioner or some such. The Authors of the book said he wanted to meet with them to explain it all but someone above him stopped it.
That's nothing. Councils round here close roads for running races, carnivals, markets and all sorts of jollity. He was mentioned in the Untouchables book. Seems he was involved in a unit trying to identify 250 corrupt police officers in the Met. Seems the figure of 250 was plucked from the air by an Assistant Commissioner or some such. The Authors of the book said he wanted to meet with them to explain it all but someone above him stopped it.
I see that Matt Hancock is threatening to ban all outdoor exercise because some people are sunbathing in parks and the like. It is unclear to me how prohibiting something which is currently permitted (exercise) will help prevent activities that already prohibited (e.g. public sunbathing). And if the police are unable to enforce the existing regulations how are they to enforce more restrictive ones? This is quite apart from the question of whether it is reasonable to prevent people who may have no outdoor space from using parks and open spaces if they can do so while observing the social distancing guidance.
barian said:
I see that Matt Hancock is threatening to ban all outdoor exercise because some people are sunbathing in parks and the like. It is unclear to me how prohibiting something which is currently permitted (exercise) will help prevent activities that already prohibited (e.g. public sunbathing). And if the police are unable to enforce the existing regulations how are they to enforce more restrictive ones? This is quite apart from the question of whether it is reasonable to prevent people who may have no outdoor space from using parks and open spaces if they can do so while observing the social distancing guidance.
Clarity. If it’s clear you shouldn’t be out at all then there’s less scope for people to bend the rules. Boosted LS1 said:
She's already got your balls, in her handbag. Ignore her, she should be chasing you. Why would you chase her? Man up and be manly. Let her know you're dating. Ignore her and lets see how long it takes for her to call you. If she doesn't then you're spared the wrongun. :-)
and a life being under her thumb!
You are a very wise man. and a life being under her thumb!
hondafanatic said:
Boosted LS1 said:
She's already got your balls, in her handbag. Ignore her, she should be chasing you. Why would you chase her? Man up and be manly. Let her know you're dating. Ignore her and lets see how long it takes for her to call you. If she doesn't then you're spared the wrongun. :-)
and a life being under her thumb!
You are a very wise man. and a life being under her thumb!
C Lee Farquar said:
XCP said:
It makes one wonder, who, in the present situation, thinks that sunbathing in a park is a good way to pass their time.
If I were in a basement flatshare with no outdoor amenities and I were 2m away from anyone, I would think it a good idea.C Lee Farquar said:
XCP said:
It makes one wonder, who, in the present situation, thinks that sunbathing in a park is a good way to pass their time.
If I were in a basement flatshare with no outdoor amenities and I were 2m away from anyone, I would think it a good idea.ED209 said:
barian said:
I see that Matt Hancock is threatening to ban all outdoor exercise because some people are sunbathing in parks and the like. It is unclear to me how prohibiting something which is currently permitted (exercise) will help prevent activities that already prohibited (e.g. public sunbathing). And if the police are unable to enforce the existing regulations how are they to enforce more restrictive ones? This is quite apart from the question of whether it is reasonable to prevent people who may have no outdoor space from using parks and open spaces if they can do so while observing the social distancing guidance.
Clarity. If it’s clear you shouldn’t be out at all then there’s less scope for people to bend the rules. barian said:
I see that Matt Hancock is threatening to ban all outdoor exercise because some people are sunbathing in parks and the like. It is unclear to me how prohibiting something which is currently permitted (exercise) will help prevent activities that already prohibited (e.g. public sunbathing). And if the police are unable to enforce the existing regulations how are they to enforce more restrictive ones? This is quite apart from the question of whether it is reasonable to prevent people who may have no outdoor space from using parks and open spaces if they can do so while observing the social distancing guidance.
It should really be science led. Does the chief scientist think there is considerable risk of people infecting each other spread out in a park? Whilst it's flouting the rules people seem to be overly concerned about it.
meatballs said:
barian said:
I see that Matt Hancock is threatening to ban all outdoor exercise because some people are sunbathing in parks and the like. It is unclear to me how prohibiting something which is currently permitted (exercise) will help prevent activities that already prohibited (e.g. public sunbathing). And if the police are unable to enforce the existing regulations how are they to enforce more restrictive ones? This is quite apart from the question of whether it is reasonable to prevent people who may have no outdoor space from using parks and open spaces if they can do so while observing the social distancing guidance.
It should really be science led. Does the chief scientist think there is considerable risk of people infecting each other spread out in a park? Whilst it's flouting the rules people seem to be overly concerned about it.
The guidelines were clearly drawn up with particular scenarios in mind - having half the population on Brighton Beach would not be great at the moment and it is difficult to stop this without fairly robust directives about unnecessary travel etc. However, if someone finds they can sunbathe in the local park without otherwise breaching social distancing guidelines, then there doesn’t really seem to be any harm in this.
I suspect that the issue in London was that authorities thought that if sunbathers were there for an extended period, the park might become too full? I’m not sure why a better way of handling this (than closing the park) couldn’t have been found though?
Foss62 said:
meatballs said:
barian said:
I see that Matt Hancock is threatening to ban all outdoor exercise because some people are sunbathing in parks and the like. It is unclear to me how prohibiting something which is currently permitted (exercise) will help prevent activities that already prohibited (e.g. public sunbathing). And if the police are unable to enforce the existing regulations how are they to enforce more restrictive ones? This is quite apart from the question of whether it is reasonable to prevent people who may have no outdoor space from using parks and open spaces if they can do so while observing the social distancing guidance.
It should really be science led. Does the chief scientist think there is considerable risk of people infecting each other spread out in a park? Whilst it's flouting the rules people seem to be overly concerned about it.
The guidelines were clearly drawn up with particular scenarios in mind - having half the population on Brighton Beach would not be great at the moment and it is difficult to stop this without fairly robust directives about unnecessary travel etc. However, if someone finds they can sunbathe in the local park without otherwise breaching social distancing guidelines, then there doesn’t really seem to be any harm in this.
I suspect that the issue in London was that authorities thought that if sunbathers were there for an extended period, the park might become too full? I’m not sure why a better way of handling this (than closing the park) couldn’t have been found though?
Personally I think those individual councils closing parks don’t want to be the ones in the next days paper / online in photographs showing “revellers” in parks. Unfortunate effect of this is the same amount of people in less wide open space. Much logic is being thrown out of the window in favour of a mob mentality.
It seems to be bringing out a lot of people’s hidden jobsworth and mini hitler hidden inside. Complaining about people going out for two walks, cycling or running further than their fat legs can carry them or being out for an hour and 5 minutes. Attacking those people on Facebook or PH for trying to just keep a bit of semblance of normality for their mental health. I think it is split in to two groups:
First, those who are stting themselves and are lashing out at anyone they perceive to be a risk.
Second those who just want to seem superior and who can’t imagine doing anything more with their free time than sitting in their pants with a bottle of red and pornhub streaming to the TV.
First, those who are s
tting themselves and are lashing out at anyone they perceive to be a risk.Second those who just want to seem superior and who can’t imagine doing anything more with their free time than sitting in their pants with a bottle of red and pornhub streaming to the TV.
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