emissions too high HELP!
emissions too high HELP!
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thewhooshparrot

130 posts

199 months

Friday 29th April 2011
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Ok,if you spay the inlet box it wouldnt bubble as it has vacuum inside not pressure,if you sprayed with easy start or carb cleaner,it should rev up a bit if it had a leak,id run without a filter,it makes no odds to the mot test if its on or not,the temp sending wire,very confused as to what you are earthing,but id leave alone if it upsets it,id still be looking at the egr valve,does the car ever feel like its sort of 'surging'?
Normally when trying to drive with a steady throttle when say cruising along at 30 40mph,this is one of the classic egr signs and they are common on these,the link i put up shows pictures of the egr,its located at the back of the engine,accessable ish from the passenger side under the dbilas inlet box,round cylinder with plug on top.

Cheers neil.

TigraPete

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55 posts

177 months

Friday 29th April 2011
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http://i.imgur.com/s1Ox8.jpg

that wire that is floating there is what i am grounding as it follows the same path as the CTS and when i ground it it makes the needle on the cars dash board go up to way past over heated even if the engine is cold and not switched on, its stopped hopping since i wired it into the negative terminal of the car battery and the car is diving fine at 30/20mph, its just the needle in the car sitting at way past its hottest point.
thanks for all the help your giving btw.
Peter

rigga

8,791 posts

222 months

Friday 29th April 2011
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Whats it like starting from cold ? only ask as from new lots of these engines suffered from sticking valves,though with the miles yours has covered that should not be an issue.

thewhooshparrot

130 posts

199 months

Friday 29th April 2011
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TigraPete said:
http://i.imgur.com/s1Ox8.jpg

that wire that is floating there is what i am grounding as it follows the same path as the CTS and when i ground it it makes the needle on the cars dash board go up to way past over heated even if the engine is cold and not switched on, its stopped hopping since i wired it into the negative terminal of the car battery and the car is diving fine at 30/20mph, its just the needle in the car sitting at way past its hottest point.
thanks for all the help your giving btw.
Peter
Thats a temp gauge wire,it should connect to another sensor in that vicinity,100%,which explains the gauge doing what it does,is the cone filter dirty at all,can you see light through it when held up to the light?

rigga

8,791 posts

222 months

Friday 29th April 2011
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Ok that single wire is the temp guage sender wire,by earthing it the guage will go fully hot,simple test to see if the guage was faulty or the sender,the blue plug behind is the temp sensor for the engine manegment system and has no bearing on the guage operation .... the wire for the sender should be fitted to a small sender with a flat top situated around the inlet manifold area.... that wire is only so long and cant reach too far so have a llok to locate it.

thewhooshparrot

130 posts

199 months

Friday 29th April 2011
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the sensor looks like the ones on the link

http://www.onlineautomotive.co.uk/Vauxhall_Corsa_W...

the spade slides over it sideways if that makes sense?

busta

4,504 posts

254 months

Friday 29th April 2011
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If you can convince the MOT tester it's a pre 1992 engine it should pass.

rigga

8,791 posts

222 months

Friday 29th April 2011
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thewhooshparrot said:
the sensor looks like the ones on the link

http://www.onlineautomotive.co.uk/Vauxhall_Corsa_W...

the spade slides over it sideways if that makes sense?
Yep thats the type

TigraPete

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55 posts

177 months

Friday 29th April 2011
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that all makes sence but i cannot see anything there :S ill just go and double check.

TigraPete

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55 posts

177 months

Friday 29th April 2011
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i love you both so much right now! i feel a fool for not noticing that bit before! its caked in dirt so didnt stand out, i just got the general shape from the link you posted, and now the needle sits nicely at the 0 point, going to go give her a run and hope for the best!

thewhooshparrot

130 posts

199 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Excellent,glad we got that sorted!
That sensor just controls the gauge,not the runing,id go with the filter being dirty tbh,and has it had a service or plug change recently? its not out by much,so nothing major!
Good luck!
Hope you get it through!

rigga

8,791 posts

222 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Id certainly go with the service idea if its not had one for a while,drop the oil for new,change the plugs and air filter,but as i said before make sure when its actually tested for emissions the car is very very hot,cats dont work very well unless they are up to operating temp.

Mardybum

3,696 posts

224 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Back in my Mechanic days this would call for a good thrashing on the nearby bypass! Turbo diesels that had spent too much time pootling around were rife for this.

TigraPete

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55 posts

177 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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its had a full service and everything about 2000 mils ago, i took it in for emissions but it failed, he stuck it on the diagnostics machine and it read faults with the EGR (you were right) and it said the idle air control valve was blocked (i dont have a clue) and so ensued the failing of the MOT.

thewhooshparrot

130 posts

199 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Not good,I did think it would be that,to remedy get a can of carb cleaner and remove and blast out the idle valve and egr I'll try to find pics to post up but on my iPhone atm so difficult to look them up

morgrp

4,128 posts

219 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Steve Evil said:
Your problem appears to be that it has been ridiculously modified.
^This^ - bet you've got an induction kit to confuse your MAF

ZeeTacoe

5,444 posts

243 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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morgrp said:
Steve Evil said:
Your problem appears to be that it has been ridiculously modified.
^This^ - bet you've got a badly positioned induction kit to confuse your MAF
Just how did you know?
http://i.imgur.com/CG2EU.jpg

thewhooshparrot

130 posts

199 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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No maf on these,they use a map sensor instead,which the filter doesnt affect as it works on manifold vacuum.

Carrot

7,294 posts

223 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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thewhooshparrot said:
No maf on these,they use a map sensor instead,which the filter doesnt affect as it works on manifold vacuum.
x16xe/ x14xe has both

thewhooshparrot

130 posts

199 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Always happy to be corrected if I am wrong,where is the maf on these?
Ive had several and worked on several and not seen a maf on the inlet?