Things that annoy you beyond reason...(Vol. 8)
Discussion
The Mad Monk said:
Google AI says
"While often used interchangeably by road crews, "Road Closed Ahead" and "Road Ahead Closed" can have distinct technical meanings depending on their placement and the specific road they refer to:
Road Closed Ahead: Typically indicates that the actual road you are currently driving on is closed further up. It is a direct warning that you will eventually need to turn off or turn around.
Road Ahead Closed: Generally suggests that a different road one that joins or intersects the one you are on is closed. This sign is often placed at junctions to warn drivers before they turn onto the affected side road".
In the real world, they use "Road Ahead Closed" with an arrow indicating if the road is on the left or right hand side (if the side road is closed). "While often used interchangeably by road crews, "Road Closed Ahead" and "Road Ahead Closed" can have distinct technical meanings depending on their placement and the specific road they refer to:
Road Closed Ahead: Typically indicates that the actual road you are currently driving on is closed further up. It is a direct warning that you will eventually need to turn off or turn around.
Road Ahead Closed: Generally suggests that a different road one that joins or intersects the one you are on is closed. This sign is often placed at junctions to warn drivers before they turn onto the affected side road".
I pay a service charge for the maintenance of communal areas on my estate, I'm fine with that is just over £200 a year to keep the grass mowed and trees maintained etc.
Quite a few years ago there were some kids hanging around making a nuisance, drinking and smoking weed. CCTV signs were put up which worked and they stopped hanging around. Just noticed on the annual budget a charge for CCTV Survey. THEY NEVER INSTALLED THE f
kING CAMERAS 
Quite a few years ago there were some kids hanging around making a nuisance, drinking and smoking weed. CCTV signs were put up which worked and they stopped hanging around. Just noticed on the annual budget a charge for CCTV Survey. THEY NEVER INSTALLED THE f
kING CAMERAS 
Cotty said:
I pay a service charge for the maintenance of communal areas on my estate, I'm fine with that is just over £200 a year to keep the grass mowed and trees maintained etc.
Quite a few years ago there were some kids hanging around making a nuisance, drinking and smoking weed. CCTV signs were put up which worked and they stopped hanging around. Just noticed on the annual budget a charge for CCTV Survey. THEY NEVER INSTALLED THE f
kING CAMERAS 
You are lucky, my service charge has just gone up to £11,000 a yearQuite a few years ago there were some kids hanging around making a nuisance, drinking and smoking weed. CCTV signs were put up which worked and they stopped hanging around. Just noticed on the annual budget a charge for CCTV Survey. THEY NEVER INSTALLED THE f
kING CAMERAS 
Total Sq Ft
1,367 approx
Service Charge
£11,491 /per year
Lease Years Remaining
95 years
Price per Sqft
£732 approx
Rusty Old-Banger said:
Highways engineer here who closes roads all the time.
Traffic Signs Manual Chapter 8 Part 1 is what you want. (The easy-to-read version of the TSRGD)
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a7...
Page 94. Table 4.3

Road Ahead Closed is the only permitted variant.
In 99% of cases (even though nobody would really notice apart from us boring t
ts), the sign manufacturer will NOT make a sign that they know is non-compliant, without confirming it in writing first. So when the traffic management firms bulk-buy the signs, they will only ever receive compliant signs - "Road Ahead Closed". You could get a Road Closed Ahead sign made, but it would have to be a determined effort, and would be highly unlikely to be done and remain ignorant of the regs.
Thank you. That is a perfect answer and pretty much as I suspected. The RCA sign "does not exist" and most certainly does not have a distinct and separate meaning.Traffic Signs Manual Chapter 8 Part 1 is what you want. (The easy-to-read version of the TSRGD)
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a7...
Page 94. Table 4.3
Road Ahead Closed is the only permitted variant.
In 99% of cases (even though nobody would really notice apart from us boring t
ts), the sign manufacturer will NOT make a sign that they know is non-compliant, without confirming it in writing first. So when the traffic management firms bulk-buy the signs, they will only ever receive compliant signs - "Road Ahead Closed". You could get a Road Closed Ahead sign made, but it would have to be a determined effort, and would be highly unlikely to be done and remain ignorant of the regs. 
snuffy said:
thetapeworm said:
I'd be amazed if it hasn't been posted already but chaps that unable to drag themselves away from their phone, or actively reach for their phone, while at a urinal.
It happens in the office and out and about and it's just weird to be holding a portable computer with photo and video capability while you urinate.
What's so important? How pissy is your phone?
I saw this happen a few years ago at work. Some bloke went into the gents on his phone. A few minutes later, he came out of the gents, still on his phone. The conclusion was surely that he'd carried on talking to the same person whilst having a slash, or even a dump. It happens in the office and out and about and it's just weird to be holding a portable computer with photo and video capability while you urinate.
What's so important? How pissy is your phone?
I could not believe what I'd just seen.
Mains plugs with the wire coming out of the top of the plug.
Whoever things those are a good idea needs them ramming up their arse, closely followed by the appliance to which they attach. And then, just to make sure they understand how utterly stupid they are, the box it came in as well needs to be inserted.
Whoever things those are a good idea needs them ramming up their arse, closely followed by the appliance to which they attach. And then, just to make sure they understand how utterly stupid they are, the box it came in as well needs to be inserted.
Warhavernet said:
Drivers having trouble with this sign, either in a traffic calming situation or a narrow road or bridge ahead.
The number of times I have had to stop, because they can't or don't understand that I have priority.

It is a bit tricky that one, especially if you don't encounter it very often, or like me, it's been over 40 years since you looked at the Highway Code. The number of times I have had to stop, because they can't or don't understand that I have priority.
Edited by Warhavernet on Tuesday 24th February 22:19
It needs a redesign, there's no logic to it.
It could do with a 1 and a 2 on plain arrows to clearly designate priorities.
Or paint one of the arrows green to make it clearer who should go first.
Cobnapint said:
Warhavernet said:
Drivers having trouble with this sign, either in a traffic calming situation or a narrow road or bridge ahead.
The number of times I have had to stop, because they can't or don't understand that I have priority.

It is a bit tricky that one, especially if you don't encounter it very often, or like me, it's been over 40 years since you looked at the Highway Code. The number of times I have had to stop, because they can't or don't understand that I have priority.
Edited by Warhavernet on Tuesday 24th February 22:19
It needs a redesign, there's no logic to it.
It could do with a 1 and a 2 on plain arrows to clearly designate priorities.
Or paint one of the arrows green to make it clearer who should go first.
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I believe the average is about £2,300 a year, I think you must be at the very top and I'm close to the lower end.