New TVR still under wraps! (Vol. 2)
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N7GTX said:
The work to start this month - subject to Covid rules- is an initial inspection so no doubt Jones Bros will be submitting a 'revised' schedule with a 'revised' price. 
@Baconsarney - they have their top man all ready to fit out the factory. He is the helicopter (free flights) chap and his expertise is factory start up and fitting out. Apparently.
Thank God for that Iain, I knew they'd have a plan..... @Baconsarney - they have their top man all ready to fit out the factory. He is the helicopter (free flights) chap and his expertise is factory start up and fitting out. Apparently.
Edited by N7GTX on Tuesday 12th January 14:59
A tenuous link to this thread topic, but in all seriousness there is a worldwide shortage in computer hardware, particularly central processing unit production. Not a lot is heading out of the far east because of a second boom in crypto currency mining. The local markets are getting fed first before the rest of the world. All of this aside it is supposedly affecting automotive production because of lack of supply.
I'd imagine, with the points other have made related to time taken to get set up, this may be far enough down the line for it to be a non issue.
Just another metaphorical bump in the metaphorical road.
I'd imagine, with the points other have made related to time taken to get set up, this may be far enough down the line for it to be a non issue.
Just another metaphorical bump in the metaphorical road.
Wow.... when I were a lad currency was paper and little metal coins, mining was something they did in Wales and Cornwall (and somewhere up North), and crypto had nite on the end of it and scared the crap out of Superman....... Ships were made of wood and men were made of iron, in fact men were men, women were men, and dogs were men. We were so tough (and poor) we kept our socks up with drawing pins....... The word computer didn't exist, and a processor was something that chopped food up.. We didn't have ABS, TC, SC, heated seats, heated windows or mirrors, parking sensors, rear cameras, or seat belts. We'd be fed breakfast, then kicked out the house to ride our bikes, climb trees, terrorize the neighbours, nick apples, and play knock down jonny... Everyone loved a jubbly, and wagon wheels were kin huge....... What a strange world we live in now.........
baconsarney said:
Wow.... when I were a lad currency was paper and little metal coins, mining was something they did in Wales and Cornwall (and somewhere up North), and crypto had nite on the end of it and scared the crap out of Superman....... Ships were made of wood and men were made of iron, in fact men were men, women were men, and dogs were men. We were so tough (and poor) we kept our socks up with drawing pins....... The word computer didn't exist, and a processor was something that chopped food up.. We didn't have ABS, TC, SC, heated seats, heated windows or mirrors, parking sensors, rear cameras, or seat belts. We'd be fed breakfast, then kicked out the house to ride our bikes, climb trees, terrorize the neighbours, nick apples, and play knock down jonny... Everyone loved a jubbly, and wagon wheels were kin huge....... What a strange world we live in now.........
That's nothing - we lived in a paper bag.
Tyre Tread said:
baconsarney said:
8Speed said:
That's nothing - we lived in a paper bag.
that’s all very well but was it at the bottom of a lake? baconsarney said:
Tyre Tread said:
baconsarney said:
8Speed said:
That's nothing - we lived in a paper bag.
that’s all very well but was it at the bottom of a lake? I found this explanation for the proposed 8 speed auto version on another forum.........
I had an interesting chat with someone who used to work with ZF in Germany. He explained some of the background and technical aspects of the autoboxes fitted to our Jaguars (and lots of other cars obviously). I thought it was worth sharing.
ZF (Zupp of Friedrichshafen) was originally founded by Prof Ing Dietmar Zupp, although the company is now headed by his grandson, Hans Zupp. The development of the 8 speed auto was a truly international effort, with contributions from engineers from several countries - Alice Verboten, Roland Butter, Juan Forder-Money, Duncan Disorderly, Ghengis McCann, Yehudi McEwan, and Patty O'Heater to name but a few.
On the 8 speed model, reliability and economy was paramount, hence the gearbox electronics are fitted internally. This helps generate inverse reactive current to drive the unilateral phase detractor and automatically synchronise the cardinal gram meters. The previous 6 speed box had a mechanical sprag clutch which was removed to make room for the 2 extra ratios in the 8 speed. Software in the 8 speed was meant to eliminate the need for this clutch, but electrical interference caused by modial interaction with the emiblio block led to partial tangential engagement of the raveneaux gearsets, thus stalling the torque converter.
To resolve this issue, production versions use 27 monastically spaced neodymium injectors around the bellhousing, arranged to feed the downstream turbine exhaust vents with a mixture of high 'S' value phenol hydrobenzamine and a 5% concentrate of remonitorive tetra-ioda hexamine. Both liquids having specific periscosities, given by the formula P = 2.5C x 6.7 / N where N is the di-ethical evolute of retrograde temperature phase disposition and C is the shelmondolaze angular grid coefficient.
Fluid levels were initially checked by dealers using a Metapolar refractive pilfrometer. This was inaccurate as it was really designed to check harmonic torsion levels on the hydroflex coupling. It was replaced by a Signature series Schottky auto-calibrating hopper datascope to measure the exact quantities. The device uses a Bernoulli constant for calculation of Neutrino flow stack requirements - simply: Nodal value = Quantative hydraxis squared divided by the Trignometrical amplitude times Pi. We have the Kazakhstan academy of Scatalogical sciences to thank for that one apparently.
One early issue with the 8 speed was the Nubbing together of the regurgative purlwell and the super-native weanel sprocket. This was attributed to incorrect specification the Lotuso-deltoid windings. The solution was to use a series of offset 3Kilohertz anhydrous nangling pins to enable a cryptonaptic bowling shim to be tankered at the front of the transmission.
Vibrations on four cylinder engines are addressed via gusseted milfor trunions on the outer casing to offset the gaussian resonant frequency. Additionally, a matched pair of fully inverted sequential decoagulation plates with non-reversible tremy pipes supports the correct phasing of fluorescent skor motion. This does however require at least one drawn reciprocating dingle arm to reduce any sinusoidal deplenaration to less than 3%.
Stop / start operation is supported by a hydraulic impulse oil storage reservoir with a parallel axis vane type oil pump. Advanced torsional vibration dampers allow faster bypassing of the hydrodynamic vortex generators. Although still an epicyclic gearbox, the 8 speeds are achieved via Multiplexed, Torroidal stream Cadmium coated concentric tambur shafts. A manganese molybdenum jack-shaft matched to a Tambourelli bevelled gearset spinning at half engine speed ensures smoothness.
I know these gearboxes have a reputation for complexity, but I must admit I found the above explanation (greatly simplified it must be said) helped clarify their operation in my mind. Posted 1 April 2019
I had an interesting chat with someone who used to work with ZF in Germany. He explained some of the background and technical aspects of the autoboxes fitted to our Jaguars (and lots of other cars obviously). I thought it was worth sharing.
ZF (Zupp of Friedrichshafen) was originally founded by Prof Ing Dietmar Zupp, although the company is now headed by his grandson, Hans Zupp. The development of the 8 speed auto was a truly international effort, with contributions from engineers from several countries - Alice Verboten, Roland Butter, Juan Forder-Money, Duncan Disorderly, Ghengis McCann, Yehudi McEwan, and Patty O'Heater to name but a few.
On the 8 speed model, reliability and economy was paramount, hence the gearbox electronics are fitted internally. This helps generate inverse reactive current to drive the unilateral phase detractor and automatically synchronise the cardinal gram meters. The previous 6 speed box had a mechanical sprag clutch which was removed to make room for the 2 extra ratios in the 8 speed. Software in the 8 speed was meant to eliminate the need for this clutch, but electrical interference caused by modial interaction with the emiblio block led to partial tangential engagement of the raveneaux gearsets, thus stalling the torque converter.
To resolve this issue, production versions use 27 monastically spaced neodymium injectors around the bellhousing, arranged to feed the downstream turbine exhaust vents with a mixture of high 'S' value phenol hydrobenzamine and a 5% concentrate of remonitorive tetra-ioda hexamine. Both liquids having specific periscosities, given by the formula P = 2.5C x 6.7 / N where N is the di-ethical evolute of retrograde temperature phase disposition and C is the shelmondolaze angular grid coefficient.
Fluid levels were initially checked by dealers using a Metapolar refractive pilfrometer. This was inaccurate as it was really designed to check harmonic torsion levels on the hydroflex coupling. It was replaced by a Signature series Schottky auto-calibrating hopper datascope to measure the exact quantities. The device uses a Bernoulli constant for calculation of Neutrino flow stack requirements - simply: Nodal value = Quantative hydraxis squared divided by the Trignometrical amplitude times Pi. We have the Kazakhstan academy of Scatalogical sciences to thank for that one apparently.
One early issue with the 8 speed was the Nubbing together of the regurgative purlwell and the super-native weanel sprocket. This was attributed to incorrect specification the Lotuso-deltoid windings. The solution was to use a series of offset 3Kilohertz anhydrous nangling pins to enable a cryptonaptic bowling shim to be tankered at the front of the transmission.
Vibrations on four cylinder engines are addressed via gusseted milfor trunions on the outer casing to offset the gaussian resonant frequency. Additionally, a matched pair of fully inverted sequential decoagulation plates with non-reversible tremy pipes supports the correct phasing of fluorescent skor motion. This does however require at least one drawn reciprocating dingle arm to reduce any sinusoidal deplenaration to less than 3%.
Stop / start operation is supported by a hydraulic impulse oil storage reservoir with a parallel axis vane type oil pump. Advanced torsional vibration dampers allow faster bypassing of the hydrodynamic vortex generators. Although still an epicyclic gearbox, the 8 speeds are achieved via Multiplexed, Torroidal stream Cadmium coated concentric tambur shafts. A manganese molybdenum jack-shaft matched to a Tambourelli bevelled gearset spinning at half engine speed ensures smoothness.
I know these gearboxes have a reputation for complexity, but I must admit I found the above explanation (greatly simplified it must be said) helped clarify their operation in my mind. Posted 1 April 2019
magpies said:
I found this explanation for the proposed 8 speed auto version on another forum.........
I had an interesting chat with someone who used to work with ZF in Germany. He explained some of the background and technical aspects of the autoboxes fitted to our Jaguars (and lots of other cars obviously). I thought it was worth sharing.
ZF (Zupp of Friedrichshafen) was originally founded by Prof Ing Dietmar Zupp, although the company is now headed by his grandson, Hans Zupp. The development of the 8 speed auto was a truly international effort, with contributions from engineers from several countries - Alice Verboten, Roland Butter, Juan Forder-Money, Duncan Disorderly, Ghengis McCann, Yehudi McEwan, and Patty O'Heater to name but a few.
On the 8 speed model, reliability and economy was paramount, hence the gearbox electronics are fitted internally. This helps generate inverse reactive current to drive the unilateral phase detractor and automatically synchronise the cardinal gram meters. The previous 6 speed box had a mechanical sprag clutch which was removed to make room for the 2 extra ratios in the 8 speed. Software in the 8 speed was meant to eliminate the need for this clutch, but electrical interference caused by modial interaction with the emiblio block led to partial tangential engagement of the raveneaux gearsets, thus stalling the torque converter.
To resolve this issue, production versions use 27 monastically spaced neodymium injectors around the bellhousing, arranged to feed the downstream turbine exhaust vents with a mixture of high 'S' value phenol hydrobenzamine and a 5% concentrate of remonitorive tetra-ioda hexamine. Both liquids having specific periscosities, given by the formula P = 2.5C x 6.7 / N where N is the di-ethical evolute of retrograde temperature phase disposition and C is the shelmondolaze angular grid coefficient.
Fluid levels were initially checked by dealers using a Metapolar refractive pilfrometer. This was inaccurate as it was really designed to check harmonic torsion levels on the hydroflex coupling. It was replaced by a Signature series Schottky auto-calibrating hopper datascope to measure the exact quantities. The device uses a Bernoulli constant for calculation of Neutrino flow stack requirements - simply: Nodal value = Quantative hydraxis squared divided by the Trignometrical amplitude times Pi. We have the Kazakhstan academy of Scatalogical sciences to thank for that one apparently.
One early issue with the 8 speed was the Nubbing together of the regurgative purlwell and the super-native weanel sprocket. This was attributed to incorrect specification the Lotuso-deltoid windings. The solution was to use a series of offset 3Kilohertz anhydrous nangling pins to enable a cryptonaptic bowling shim to be tankered at the front of the transmission.
Vibrations on four cylinder engines are addressed via gusseted milfor trunions on the outer casing to offset the gaussian resonant frequency. Additionally, a matched pair of fully inverted sequential decoagulation plates with non-reversible tremy pipes supports the correct phasing of fluorescent skor motion. This does however require at least one drawn reciprocating dingle arm to reduce any sinusoidal deplenaration to less than 3%.
Stop / start operation is supported by a hydraulic impulse oil storage reservoir with a parallel axis vane type oil pump. Advanced torsional vibration dampers allow faster bypassing of the hydrodynamic vortex generators. Although still an epicyclic gearbox, the 8 speeds are achieved via Multiplexed, Torroidal stream Cadmium coated concentric tambur shafts. A manganese molybdenum jack-shaft matched to a Tambourelli bevelled gearset spinning at half engine speed ensures smoothness.
I know these gearboxes have a reputation for complexity, but I must admit I found the above explanation (greatly simplified it must be said) helped clarify their operation in my mind. Posted 1 April 2019
I had an interesting chat with someone who used to work with ZF in Germany. He explained some of the background and technical aspects of the autoboxes fitted to our Jaguars (and lots of other cars obviously). I thought it was worth sharing.
ZF (Zupp of Friedrichshafen) was originally founded by Prof Ing Dietmar Zupp, although the company is now headed by his grandson, Hans Zupp. The development of the 8 speed auto was a truly international effort, with contributions from engineers from several countries - Alice Verboten, Roland Butter, Juan Forder-Money, Duncan Disorderly, Ghengis McCann, Yehudi McEwan, and Patty O'Heater to name but a few.
On the 8 speed model, reliability and economy was paramount, hence the gearbox electronics are fitted internally. This helps generate inverse reactive current to drive the unilateral phase detractor and automatically synchronise the cardinal gram meters. The previous 6 speed box had a mechanical sprag clutch which was removed to make room for the 2 extra ratios in the 8 speed. Software in the 8 speed was meant to eliminate the need for this clutch, but electrical interference caused by modial interaction with the emiblio block led to partial tangential engagement of the raveneaux gearsets, thus stalling the torque converter.
To resolve this issue, production versions use 27 monastically spaced neodymium injectors around the bellhousing, arranged to feed the downstream turbine exhaust vents with a mixture of high 'S' value phenol hydrobenzamine and a 5% concentrate of remonitorive tetra-ioda hexamine. Both liquids having specific periscosities, given by the formula P = 2.5C x 6.7 / N where N is the di-ethical evolute of retrograde temperature phase disposition and C is the shelmondolaze angular grid coefficient.
Fluid levels were initially checked by dealers using a Metapolar refractive pilfrometer. This was inaccurate as it was really designed to check harmonic torsion levels on the hydroflex coupling. It was replaced by a Signature series Schottky auto-calibrating hopper datascope to measure the exact quantities. The device uses a Bernoulli constant for calculation of Neutrino flow stack requirements - simply: Nodal value = Quantative hydraxis squared divided by the Trignometrical amplitude times Pi. We have the Kazakhstan academy of Scatalogical sciences to thank for that one apparently.
One early issue with the 8 speed was the Nubbing together of the regurgative purlwell and the super-native weanel sprocket. This was attributed to incorrect specification the Lotuso-deltoid windings. The solution was to use a series of offset 3Kilohertz anhydrous nangling pins to enable a cryptonaptic bowling shim to be tankered at the front of the transmission.
Vibrations on four cylinder engines are addressed via gusseted milfor trunions on the outer casing to offset the gaussian resonant frequency. Additionally, a matched pair of fully inverted sequential decoagulation plates with non-reversible tremy pipes supports the correct phasing of fluorescent skor motion. This does however require at least one drawn reciprocating dingle arm to reduce any sinusoidal deplenaration to less than 3%.
Stop / start operation is supported by a hydraulic impulse oil storage reservoir with a parallel axis vane type oil pump. Advanced torsional vibration dampers allow faster bypassing of the hydrodynamic vortex generators. Although still an epicyclic gearbox, the 8 speeds are achieved via Multiplexed, Torroidal stream Cadmium coated concentric tambur shafts. A manganese molybdenum jack-shaft matched to a Tambourelli bevelled gearset spinning at half engine speed ensures smoothness.
I know these gearboxes have a reputation for complexity, but I must admit I found the above explanation (greatly simplified it must be said) helped clarify their operation in my mind. Posted 1 April 2019
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