GT3 2018 Allocations
Discussion
Robograd said:
av185 quote: "Unfortunately this could well be the ugly face which will increasingly preclude us mere relatively impercunious mortals and enthusiasts from securing GT Porsche allocations in the future.
Depressing stuff.....but it is a free market I suppose."
Plus what cmoose said!
Totally & utterly agree with you both.
I'd hesitate before proclaiming just because someone gets up to a bit of nonsense like that he's not an enthusiast. Depressing stuff.....but it is a free market I suppose."
Plus what cmoose said!
Totally & utterly agree with you both.
One of the guys in that clip (or at least the owner of one of the cars - unsure if he was driving there) is a seriously good driver and very regularly at Silverstone on trackdays. That makes him imo more of a driving enthusiast than a good many people on here that'd never ever consider using their cars on track.
Although the free market is a truly amazing thing.
One aspect of this is that it allows enthusiasts to use their GT Porsches exactly how the bloody hell they like.....and if they prefer using them as road cars.....instead of perhaps track cars then so be it...
.this would clearly make them no less an enthusiasts than anyone else.......although I suppose there will always be some people who attempt to judge others in their little ivory towers by their own somewhat tainted and Phillistine views and particularly from certain known flippers perspective.
But there you go.
One aspect of this is that it allows enthusiasts to use their GT Porsches exactly how the bloody hell they like.....and if they prefer using them as road cars.....instead of perhaps track cars then so be it...
.this would clearly make them no less an enthusiasts than anyone else.......although I suppose there will always be some people who attempt to judge others in their little ivory towers by their own somewhat tainted and Phillistine views and particularly from certain known flippers perspective.
But there you go.
isaldiri said:
Robograd said:
av185 quote: "Unfortunately this could well be the ugly face which will increasingly preclude us mere relatively impercunious mortals and enthusiasts from securing GT Porsche allocations in the future.
Depressing stuff.....but it is a free market I suppose."
Sorry. I must be reading this wrong
Are you saying how well you drive and whether you do track days is an indicator of how much of an enthusiast you are ?
I’m a thoroughly average driver and do the odd track day. Not doing very well so far...
But I’ve had petrol in my veins since the age of about 4 !!!
I have a few porsches and don’t get to drive them very much. I have too many children with too many weekend hobbies.
Massively enjoy ownership however and the occasions I do drive them are special.
Enthusiasts come in alll different shapes and sizes !!!
If you buy cars to flip them however ....
Plus what cmoose said!
Totally & utterly agree with you both.
I'd hesitate before proclaiming just because someone gets up to a bit of nonsense like that he's not an enthusiast. Depressing stuff.....but it is a free market I suppose."
Sorry. I must be reading this wrong
Are you saying how well you drive and whether you do track days is an indicator of how much of an enthusiast you are ?
I’m a thoroughly average driver and do the odd track day. Not doing very well so far...
But I’ve had petrol in my veins since the age of about 4 !!!
I have a few porsches and don’t get to drive them very much. I have too many children with too many weekend hobbies.
Massively enjoy ownership however and the occasions I do drive them are special.
Enthusiasts come in alll different shapes and sizes !!!
If you buy cars to flip them however ....
Plus what cmoose said!
Totally & utterly agree with you both.
One of the guys in that clip (or at least the owner of one of the cars - unsure if he was driving there) is a seriously good driver and very regularly at Silverstone on trackdays. That makes him imo more of a driving enthusiast than a good many people on here that'd never ever consider using their cars on track.
Double gauche said:
Sorry. I must be reading this wrong
Are you saying whether you do track days is an indicator of how much of an enthusiast you are ?
I wasn't..... but Isaldiri was.Are you saying whether you do track days is an indicator of how much of an enthusiast you are ?
Strange viewpoint.
Perhaps he could enlighten us as to why he could possibly arrive at this somewhat ridiculous conclusion.
As you quite rightly say as you had petrol in your blood since being 4 years old this clearly means you are as much an 'enthusiast' as anyone else. Irrespective of how and where you use your car.
A very Merry Christmas to all....especially us enthusiasts!
isaldiri said:
Robograd said:
av185 quote: "Unfortunately this could well be the ugly face which will increasingly preclude us mere relatively impercunious mortals and enthusiasts from securing GT Porsche allocations in the future.
Depressing stuff.....but it is a free market I suppose."
Plus what cmoose said!
Totally & utterly agree with you both.
I'd hesitate before proclaiming just because someone gets up to a bit of nonsense like that he's not an enthusiast. Depressing stuff.....but it is a free market I suppose."
Plus what cmoose said!
Totally & utterly agree with you both.
One of the guys in that clip (or at least the owner of one of the cars - unsure if he was driving there) is a seriously good driver and very regularly at Silverstone on trackdays. That makes him imo more of a driving enthusiast than a good many people on here that'd never ever consider using their cars on track.
I come in peace.
It was certainly not my intention to single out any individuals for criticism, nor to comment on what they do with their cars: their money - their cars .
I actually responded to what I perceived to be the basic tenet of the two posts: that the ability to purchase a GT Porsche is been gradually removed for many prospective buyers. Porsche GT cars are becoming the exclusive domain of the rich: soon they’ll be ‘unobtainium’ to the merely comfortably off. Having said that, I acknowledge that anyone in the lucky position of been able to contemplate the purchase a GT Porsche will be considered very rich, by ninety percent of our beleaguered population.
I consider myself to be a car enthusiast; have been since the year dot. The earliest photo of me shows me holding a model Ferrari race car & I haven’t been able to break the habit since. I wish someone could come up with a medication that would stop me buying the damn things!
Anyway, enough!
Merry Christmas to you all & a New Year free of stress (a lot less of Trumple-thin-skin would certainly be my wish)!!
I think driving cars around in a car park seemingly so they can be videod is a bit "Facebook"....lots of people do it....proper car enthusiasts as well as people for who cars a way of flaunting their wealth, or indeed people who want to flaunt how much debt they want to run up!
Whilst I think most people on here are happy to put pictures up of their cars I doubt many post pictures or videos of themselves and their cars on social media. I wouldn't from a security perspective as much as I wouldn't post a picture of myself at Heathrow saying I'm on holiday for two weeks!
Anyway you certainly can't judge someone's genuine enthusiasm for things automotive by their willingness to flaunt themselves on social media. Bloke I used to work with who is a proper, proper car nut is very happy posting pictures of his car collection and is quite widely followed/well known because of his car collection.
Whilst I think most people on here are happy to put pictures up of their cars I doubt many post pictures or videos of themselves and their cars on social media. I wouldn't from a security perspective as much as I wouldn't post a picture of myself at Heathrow saying I'm on holiday for two weeks!
Anyway you certainly can't judge someone's genuine enthusiasm for things automotive by their willingness to flaunt themselves on social media. Bloke I used to work with who is a proper, proper car nut is very happy posting pictures of his car collection and is quite widely followed/well known because of his car collection.
Cheib said:
I think driving cars around in a car park seemingly so they can be videod is a bit "Facebook"....lots of people do it....proper car enthusiasts as well as people for who cars a way of flaunting their wealth, or indeed people who want to flaunt how much debt they want to run up!
Whilst I think most people on here are happy to put pictures up of their cars I doubt many post pictures or videos of themselves and their cars on social media. I wouldn't from a security perspective as much as I wouldn't post a picture of myself at Heathrow saying I'm on holiday for two weeks!
Anyway you certainly can't judge someone's genuine enthusiasm for things automotive by their willingness to flaunt themselves on social media. Bloke I used to work with who is a proper, proper car nut is very happy posting pictures of his car collection and is quite widely followed/well known because of his car collection.
I guess people collect and people do concours etc every one likes cars in there own way, some like rebuilding them.Whilst I think most people on here are happy to put pictures up of their cars I doubt many post pictures or videos of themselves and their cars on social media. I wouldn't from a security perspective as much as I wouldn't post a picture of myself at Heathrow saying I'm on holiday for two weeks!
Anyway you certainly can't judge someone's genuine enthusiasm for things automotive by their willingness to flaunt themselves on social media. Bloke I used to work with who is a proper, proper car nut is very happy posting pictures of his car collection and is quite widely followed/well known because of his car collection.
I like driving them though, that is my enjoyment which does mean mixing with people who also like driving them , not collecting or cleaning them. But I have nothing against the latter 2, what ever floats ones boat.
I see very little on SM and on PH regarding driving them these days, most are garage queens or sorned and people will pay £5k to ppf a garage queen car.!
Then you have the investors of which there are many out to make easy money.
And the crazy you tubers who sell out to buy rare cars to flip for money.
All my cars have road rash, it's memories and sport car patina gives them a nice used look.
Pick up a hit on that track day in spa and every time you wash it you remember that great weekend.
The concours look or covering the paint in plastic is not for me. although I do like a clean car.
When people say 5k ppf I think I could buy 5 sets of PS4s tyres for that :-)
I bin new p zero,s I hate them I guess we are all a bit crazy in the area we like.
Edited by Porsche911R on Sunday 24th December 16:50
Cheib said:
I think driving cars around in a car park seemingly so they can be videod is a bit "Facebook"...
+1.I saw the vid and was left a little bemused - why would a load of grown men do this ? It’s a bit bizarre IMHO - but hey, each to there own (but maybe next time guys; slow down at the pedestrian crossing - don’t want to give us Porsche owners a bad rep)
throt said:
Never been my thing flaunting what I have. Do not have Facebook account, never posted pics on a forum, just not for me at all. Find some stuff ""cringe worthy"", like OTT personal youtube crap.. Never craved attention, but whatever turns them on just let them go for it.
Yo Dude,I’m wid u, man! May the moon always shine on your Castor & Pollux, ????!
Edit: How the flying f
k do you get a emoji onto this site - that collection of gobbledygook after Pollux should have an emoji after it - technology, who’d ‘ave it? Emojis should be, by default, easy to use as apparently we’ll have decayed our beloved language so much that in twenty years we’ll be conversing in emoji, for fluff’s sake!!Edited by Robograd on Sunday 24th December 17:53
RSVP911 said:
Cheib said:
I think driving cars around in a car park seemingly so they can be videod is a bit "Facebook"...
+1.I saw the vid and was left a little bemused - why would a load of grown men do this ? It’s a bit bizarre IMHO - but hey, each to there own (but maybe next time guys; slow down at the pedestrian crossing - don’t want to give us Porsche owners a bad rep)
Ditto, you Dude. Fluff the phantom emoji I would have, if I could have, put * here!
Yes Merry Christmas all ...... we are all fortunate to be able to have fun with cars , been busy planning for Rennsport next year ......Southhampton ( UK ) to West coast ( USA ) ...hmmmm
Really happy for all new owners ..... my OPC said simply I am not a real player or rich enough .... which I last heard from my ex-wife .
Things have changed
I can live with that
Now lets be merry
Really happy for all new owners ..... my OPC said simply I am not a real player or rich enough .... which I last heard from my ex-wife .
Things have changed
I can live with that
Now lets be merry
Edited by hunter 66 on Sunday 24th December 18:34
Edited by hunter 66 on Sunday 24th December 18:39
And remember, this 550 Spyder sold for nearly £5m and the main reason was that had NEVER been restored, never PPF'd, never revved in a car park, and driven as nature intended. Genuinely, I saw it and it it was knackered, cosmetically, - but knackered though driving. So the lesson is to drive it, hard, in the rain, wind and snow!!!!
hunter 66 said:
Yes Merry Christmas all ...... we are all fortunate to be able to have fun with cars , been busy planning for Rennsport next year ......Southhampton ( UK ) to West coast ( USA ) ...hmmmm
Really happy for all new owners ..... my OPC said simply I am not a real player or rich enough .... which I last heard from my ex-wife .
Things have changed
I can live with that
Now lets be merry
I consider myself extremely fortunate to be driving a 991.2 GT3 which is an exceptional car..FWIW i genuinely believe the UK's hugely over indebted economy coupled with very poor productivity will result in a full blown recession in the not too distant future..When it happens and it almost certainly will, the overs market will collapse giving true enthusiasts such as yourself another bite on the cherry.Really happy for all new owners ..... my OPC said simply I am not a real player or rich enough .... which I last heard from my ex-wife .
Things have changed
I can live with that
Now lets be merry
Edited by hunter 66 on Sunday 24th December 18:34
Edited by hunter 66 on Sunday 24th December 18:39
Please keep us posted on your racing life through 2018 as i for one enjoy reading them.
Have a great Christmas and a prosperous New Year.
hunter 66 said:
Yes Merry Christmas all ...... we are all fortunate to be able to have fun with cars , been busy planning for Rennsport next year ......
Really happy for all new owners ..... my OPC said simply I am not a real player or rich enough .... which I last heard from my ex-wife .
Things have changed
I can live with that
Now lets be merry
Spot on, mon Amie,Really happy for all new owners ..... my OPC said simply I am not a real player or rich enough .... which I last heard from my ex-wife .
Things have changed
I can live with that
Now lets be merry
Echoes earlier comments (& mine); the ability to simply struggle to accrue the spondolies (is that a word?) to get the vehicle you desire, counts for nought, the object of desire has receded beyond the attainable. I might add, your OPC is being a mite patronising in their comments & that will bite them back - there's a thing called karma !
If it's of any comfort, it could be worse; my wife of xxx years says exactly the same of me - but stays with me!!!!
Here's hoping Porsche find a solution to a very difficult problem (I wouldn't bet on it, though) or, 1989 happens again when a car's value crashed by 50%, in short order, & the greed of the few allowed the many to feast on the remains of their folly. I say that as the fortunate recipient of a GT3 allocation; the idea of profit from a car purchase is so far from my perception of vehicular ownership, as to be unimaginable.
Besides which, any pleasure accruing from car ownership is transient & essentially vacuous - but I still can't stop doing it, bugger!!!
a joyous Noel to you all.
Robograd said:
RSVP911 said:
Cheib said:
I think driving cars around in a car park seemingly so they can be videod is a bit "Facebook"...
+1.I saw the vid and was left a little bemused - why would a load of grown men do this ? It’s a bit bizarre IMHO - but hey, each to there own (but maybe next time guys; slow down at the pedestrian crossing - don’t want to give us Porsche owners a bad rep)
Ditto, you Dude. Fluff the phantom emoji I would have, if I could have, put * here!
As things go, i'm 100% certain these guys aren't driving around car parks in Birmingham in the hope that some kid will film them.
My calculated guess is that as the cars are in the Mailbox car park( a retail/leisure venue), the guys have perhaps been out for a meal or other leisure activity and their cars have been spotted and subsequently photographed and filmed. Subsequently they have revved their engines for these kids to give them some footage which is worthwhile uploading.
I could be wrong but that would make most sense!
https://www.autogespot.co.uk/porsche-991-gt3-mkii-...
https://www.autogespot.co.uk/porsche-991-gt3-mkii/...
Blue one in London, so not only driven around car parks in Birmingham!
https://www.autogespot.co.uk/porsche-991-gt3-mkii/...
The white one i have seen a few times around the midlands and it is driven in the rain and on gritted roads and I'd be happy to put money on the fact that the this car will one of the most used cars out there!
Whilst im here, Merry Christmas and best wishes to all( enthusiasts, spotters, flippers, etc). May the new year bring many new cars to drive, flip, photograph, polish and just do whatever floats your boat with!
I'm off to have a
hunter 66 said:
Yes Merry Christmas all ...... we are all fortunate to be able to have fun with cars , been busy planning for Rennsport next year ......Southhampton ( UK ) to West coast ( USA ) ...hmmmm
Really happy for all new owners ..... my OPC said simply I am not a real player or rich enough .... which I last heard from my ex-wife .
Things have changed
I can live with that
Now lets be merry
Brilliant post - made me laugh out loud Really happy for all new owners ..... my OPC said simply I am not a real player or rich enough .... which I last heard from my ex-wife .
Things have changed
I can live with that
Now lets be merry
Edited by hunter 66 on Sunday 24th December 18:34
Edited by hunter 66 on Sunday 24th December 18:39
Taffy66 said:
I consider myself extremely fortunate to be driving a 991.2 GT3 which is an exceptional car..FWIW i genuinely believe the UK's hugely over indebted economy coupled with very poor productivity will result in a full blown recession in the not too distant future..When it happens and it almost certainly will, the overs market will collapse giving true enthusiasts such as yourself another bite on the cherry.
Please keep us posted on your racing life through 2018 as i for one enjoy reading them.
Have a great Christmas and a prosperous New Year.
Completely agree with you there. Bubble will burst. Although, we will no doubt still see cars leaving the UK for distant shores while the £ is on its bones...Please keep us posted on your racing life through 2018 as i for one enjoy reading them.
Have a great Christmas and a prosperous New Year.
Mine lands early Feb, roll on spring.
Christmas Greetings & Peace to all.
Riviera993 said:
Taffy66 said:
I consider myself extremely fortunate to be driving a 991.2 GT3 which is an exceptional car..FWIW i genuinely believe the UK's hugely over indebted economy coupled with very poor productivity will result in a full blown recession in the not too distant future..When it happens and it almost certainly will, the overs market will collapse giving true enthusiasts such as yourself another bite on the cherry.
Please keep us posted on your racing life through 2018 as i for one enjoy reading them.
Have a great Christmas and a prosperous New Year.
Completely agree with you there. Bubble will burst. Although, we will no doubt still see cars leaving the UK for distant shores while the £ is on its bones...Please keep us posted on your racing life through 2018 as i for one enjoy reading them.
Have a great Christmas and a prosperous New Year.
Mine lands early Feb, roll on spring.
Christmas Greetings & Peace to all.
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