Meanwhile, In Syria

[PurpleMoonlight]

gooner1 said:

And you seriously believe that, honestly?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2163824/world-war-3-ww3-how-prepare-nuclear-attack-survival-guide/

[gooner1]

anonymous said:

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Doesn't the above make it even less likely that Russia, or anyone else, would cut off
vital lines of communication?

[gooner1]

anonymous said:

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It would be hard to blame Syria for that.

[andy_s]

anonymous said:

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The US would be horrified, there'd be nothing for them to tap into!

[Oakey]

So the same people who kept asking why Assad would use chemical weapons when he was winning are now trying to convince us Putin would use nuclear weapons just "because"?

[grumbledoak]

Oakey said:

So the same people who kept asking why Assad would use chemical weapons when he was winning are now trying to convince us Putin would use nuclear weapons just "because"?

Some seem to believe, or want to believe, that the leaders on the "other side" are stupid or mad.

I don't. I believe that Assad and Putin are clever and sane. I don't buy them doing conveniently stupid things just because it fits a narrative so unconvincing it could be the plot from a Hollywood movie.

[Driller]

Had an interesting conversation with the Syrian wife of a Syrian Doctor who has worked here in France since 2010.

They are both sure that either there was no chemical attack or if there was is wasn't Assad.

[Ridgemont]

anonymous said:

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What corner?

I do wonder about some of the hyperbole. Putin isn’t in a corner: there aren’t armies pushing through Stalingrad threatening the collapse of the southern front, leading to nuclear annihilation as the only option.

He is playing a simple game of seeing what he can get away with confidence that the West appears unable to hold ‘red lines’ and is desperate to avoid entanglement in the Middle East again, so allowing him to extend Russian influence.

No strong man is going to resort to nukes in a game they are winning.

And Trump isn’t a mad man. He is playing the mad man card thus rendering Putin’s calculations more uncertain.

[JensenA]

anonymous said:

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[Burwood]

In a way I admire Putin. He climbed a very Perilous ladder. But his demeanour is because he answers to no one. Coupled with the fact ur he was in anyway reasonable, there would be someone to rake his place,

[Pupp]

Perhaps, instead of me having to think too much about it, one of the Putin piece-work posters steadfastly promoting the benevolence of post-perestroika Russian patronage, can reassure me the CW inspectors are not being shot at and assailed with explosives, nor witnesses being intimidated, as the evil BBC are this evening reporting (from location)? I'm sure there must be a plausible countrpoint...

[Ridgemont]

Pupp said:

Perhaps, instead of me having to think too much about it, one of the Putin piece-work posters steadfastly promoting the benevolence of post-perestroika Russian patronage, can reassure me the CW inspectors are not being shot at and assailed with explosives, nor witnesses being intimidated, as the evil BBC are this evening reporting (from location)? I'm sure there must be a plausible countrpoint...

That’ll be British secret services. Apparrently.

[Pupp]

Ridgemont said:

Pupp said:

Perhaps, instead of me having to think too much about it, one of the Putin piece-work posters steadfastly promoting the benevolence of post-perestroika Russian patronage, can reassure me the CW inspectors are not being shot at and assailed with explosives, nor witnesses being intimidated, as the evil BBC are this evening reporting (from location)? I'm sure there must be a plausible countrpoint...

That’ll be British secret services. Apparrently.

I knew someone would put me right. And it didn't cost a Rouble...!

[Paganbronze]

Pupp said:

Perhaps, instead of me having to think too much about it, one of the Putin piece-work posters steadfastly promoting the benevolence of post-perestroika Russian patronage, can reassure me the CW inspectors are not being shot at and assailed with explosives, nor witnesses being intimidated, as the evil BBC are this evening reporting (from location)? I'm sure there must be a plausible countrpoint...

has anyone on the ground said who is shooting at them?, stop trying to turn this into a binary situation, this is about as muddy as a war can get

[andy_s]

Pupp said:

Perhaps, instead of me having to think too much about it, one of the Putin piece-work posters steadfastly promoting the benevolence of post-perestroika Russian patronage, can reassure me the CW inspectors are not being shot at and assailed with explosives, nor witnesses being intimidated, as the evil BBC are this evening reporting (from location)? I'm sure there must be a plausible countrpoint...

Have CW inspectors been shot at...?

[Halb]

Paganbronze said:

has anyone on the ground said who is shooting at them?, stop trying to turn this into a binary situation, this is about as muddy as a war can get

Well it is the middle east, muddiest place there is.
My kurd mate is always keen to tell me of the old kurish proverb, when two fish argue at the bottom of the sea, you can be sure there's an Englishman nearby.

[Paganbronze]

seems reasonable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foj29LIXpy4&fe...

[p1stonhead]

anonymous said:

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So another person has the opinion that there will be a nuclear war.

What relevence does this opinion have to my own or others opinions?

[anonymous-user]

Roger Waters
Well done !

[Halb]

Peter Hitchens said:

Not until the rocket bombs start to arrive in Western cities will people realise how fantastically stupid they've been.
Not until China becomes the world supreme power because we have destroyed ourselves with stupid wars will people realise how stupid we've been.
I'm just beyond all patience with it. Drives me up the wall with rage.

I can certainly empathise with that.