What to do about this?

What to do about this?

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9mm

3,128 posts

211 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Unless their name is Venables, Thompson or Bell.

mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Zod said:
no child of 10 can be that bad.
what a sheltered life you live ...

Tony 1234

3,465 posts

228 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Let us know how you get on OP smile

Herbie58

1,705 posts

191 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Can I offer a bit of female insight?

You don't really know what her frame of mind was when she left you, albeit clearly not right. And people have a lovely way of rewriting their version of events - particularly when so much time has passed. It's highly possible that she sees herself as the wronged party somehow and if you wade in with "I want a DNA test" and presumably she is still a bit of a loon - there is a bit of a risk she tells you to fk off and worse tells your son you don't believe he is yours. Which would be incredibly damaging to him - clearly.

If you really do want a relationship with him. Then tread very very carefully with your ex and position it very clearly that you do deeply want a relationship with him but for X reasons you want to do the testing - without him knowing.

Jasandjules

70,012 posts

230 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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OP far be it for me to interfere, it is your life, however if you want a paternity test then what about that new genetic issue you've discovered in your family and you want to make sure your son is clear.......

mjb1

2,556 posts

160 months

Tuesday 24th March 2015
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Herbie58 said:
Can I offer a bit of female insight?

You don't really know what her frame of mind was when she left you, albeit clearly not right. And people have a lovely way of rewriting their version of events - particularly when so much time has passed. It's highly possible that she sees herself as the wronged party somehow and if you wade in with "I want a DNA test" and presumably she is still a bit of a loon - there is a bit of a risk she tells you to fk off and worse tells your son you don't believe he is yours. Which would be incredibly damaging to him - clearly.

If you really do want a relationship with him. Then tread very very carefully with your ex and position it very clearly that you do deeply want a relationship with him but for X reasons you want to do the testing - without him knowing.
That's exactly what I was thinking, but it depends on the back story behind it. Was this issue raised when the breakup happened? If she has no inkling you are doubtful of paternity raising it now will be like detonating a nuke, and likely to bring proceedings to an abrupt end regardless of whether he's yours or not, no matter how much he wants to know you. If she knew from the split that paternity was an issue (guessing she 'knew' the new bloke before you split since they got engaged that quick), then it won't come as that much of a surprise to her if you raise it again now.

Do you know if she is still with the same bloke? I'd have thought if she believed he was the father, she'd have just told the boy that he was right from the start. Maybe they've split/other bloke questioned fatherhood? Maybe they've already done the test and she knows the lad is yours?

Is she back in the UK, or still abroad? I'd say there's only any real point in getting involved in the boy's life if you can realistically meet in person with some regularity. If they're miles away then a quick chat on the phone/skype is going to create more questions than answers.

I think you need to phone her and discuss things before making any decisions on what to do. Find out what's actually going on. You won't be able to do a DNA test on the sly (not legally anyway) as you'd need parental responsibility to authorise it.

PurpleMoonlight

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22,362 posts

158 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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Herbie58 said:
You don't really know what her frame of mind was when she left you, albeit clearly not right.
I think her state of mind is obvious. She wanted to be married to someone else ....

phil_cardiff

7,123 posts

209 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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Sump said:
phil_cardiff said:
Sump said:
Nothing good will come out of this.
That chip on your shoulder must be pretty heavy.
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Sorry, my curt repsonse wasn't warranted. However, your last sentence comes across as very negative. Yes, it's not going to be easy but something fantastic could come from this. If the child is the OP's son and they can build a relationship then, at the risk of sounding like a massive jessie, it's going to be the best thing you can have.

I'm a father to an 18 month old. If he'd have been taken away after even a few minutes of being born I'd always want to see him, be with him and be his father.

A paternity test somewhere along the line is probably wise in this situation though.

Good luck OP, there is potential for something good in this situation, I hope you find it.

HertsBiker

6,317 posts

272 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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Change number. Do not reply. You dodged a bullet and it's going to cost you if you contact them.

S10GTA

12,718 posts

168 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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HertsBiker said:
Change number. Do not reply. You dodged a bullet and it's going to cost you if you contact them.
Dumb response. Do you have kids?

D_T_W

2,502 posts

216 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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S10GTA said:
HertsBiker said:
Change number. Do not reply. You dodged a bullet and it's going to cost you if you contact them.
Dumb response. Do you have kids?
I do, and I agree with him!

Martin4x4

6,506 posts

133 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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PurpleMoonlight said:
I have serious doubts J is actually my child.

I really don't know what to do for the best.
You could use it as an opportunity to do a discreet DNA test.

https://www.easydna.co.uk/discreet-dna-test/

However it might be a trap to get back dated maintenance from you

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/wi...

Krupp Stahl

212 posts

129 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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If it was me, I'd agree to meet him and be totally honest in answering all his questions even down to not being entirely certain the you're even related. I wouldn't sugarcoat any of it because he deserves the truth.

I would also respond to your ex beforehand and coldly make it explicitly clear that you hold no grudges but feel you owe the kid complete honesty - is she happy for you to go ahead on that basis? If not, it's pointless and will do more harm than good.

It's all about what's best for the kid now.

George Smiley

5,048 posts

82 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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OP any update on this?

I find myself in the unenviable position of needing two tests

One to determine if my daughter is mine

The other to exclude my exes son from being mine (she left whilst pregnant with her new squeeze’s child)

Did you get the test done?

Greenmantle

1,292 posts

109 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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George Smiley said:
OP any update on this?

I find myself in the unenviable position of needing two tests

One to determine if my daughter is mine

The other to exclude my exes son from being mine (she left whilst pregnant with her new squeeze’s child)

Did you get the test done?
George you will need 3 tests - one for you
Don't go the cheap route. Get a proper test trust me it will be worth it in the long run.
Once you have all 3 then you will be able to move forward in your life deciding what is important to you.
Good Luck