The biggest film disappointment?
Discussion
DoubleD said:
I think it might have been mentioned earlier, but Gravity. I watched it last night, it seemed to be a film with no real story.
I laughed for a while at just how ridiculous it was and then gave up. Anyone who has even a vague knowledge of how things work in a passenger aircraft flight deck will know the idea of two astronauts outside working in deep space chatting about homelife is a spectacularly unrealistic situation!paulguitar said:
DoubleD said:
I think it might have been mentioned earlier, but Gravity. I watched it last night, it seemed to be a film with no real story.
I laughed for a while at just how ridiculous it was and then gave up. Anyone who has even a vague knowledge of how things work in a passenger aircraft flight deck will know the idea of two astronauts outside working in deep space chatting about homelife is a spectacularly unrealistic situation!Anyone who has even a vague knowledge of how inter stellar exploration ...
RichTT said:
JimSuperSix said:
I thought Gravity in the cinema was f
king awesome actually, it did exactly what I was wanting from a film like that and did it really well.
Gravity was one of those films designed almost entirely around being dependant on 3D effects and big screen / sound. Loved it in the cinema. Was mediocre at best at home on Blu-Ray. 
Might've had something to do with my being stuck on a plane for 12 hours though

Gravity I enjoyed in the cinema and phantom menace I think I was still just young enough to enjoy.
I generally try and avoid too much in the way of trailers and hype in order to not get expectations too high.
Ender's game I thought was pretty poor. Generally a reasonably big fan of sci fi stuff, but the film just seemed incredibly dull.
I generally try and avoid too much in the way of trailers and hype in order to not get expectations too high.
Ender's game I thought was pretty poor. Generally a reasonably big fan of sci fi stuff, but the film just seemed incredibly dull.
UnclePat said:
paul99 said:
The worst travesty I can think of was Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal skull.
When Shia LaBoeuf isn’t even the most annoying thing about your film, then you truly know you have a clunker of epic proportions on your hands. Escaping a nuclear blast in a fridge, FFS...
Well, I sat down to watch Crystal skull. Legit copy this time on my 120” screen as well. Sound up and open minded.
What a pile of s

Shia LaBoeuf, at what point did anyone think “talented actor”? He just spits out his lines with no care for “what’s my motivation”? It’s like he is set to random and hadn’t read any of the script until moments before. It is sad that they were obviously setting Shia up to take on the role of Indiana Jones and were hoping to have many sequels.
I like a good s

ScottJB said:
Joey Ramone said:
Dunkirk
Garbage. Conveyed absolutely zero sense of the scale, desperation and viciousness of the situation.
This for me too. Garbage. Conveyed absolutely zero sense of the scale, desperation and viciousness of the situation.
generationx said:
Hmmm - Ridley Scott and/or Ryan Gosling - there's a pattern emerging.
I will never understand why Ryan Gosling has a career. You could swap him between First Man and Blade Runner 2049 - one human, one artificial construct a century ahead - and you wouldn't be able to tell ANY difference in performance. That tells me there's something slightly lacking in his skills. Biggest disappointments for me in the cinema have been -
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. I walked out of that with my mouth hanging open.
Prometheus. Incoherent junk that assumes the audience has passed away so won't notice they gave up on a story, but very pretty.
Interstellar. Another one where it feels like they ran out of interest while writing it. I dislike it more every time I see it. It's shouting at me that it's awe inspiring rather than actually being awe inspiring.
Cannot believe people really dislike Interstellar and 2049, I thought they were truly brilliant in ways, they captured emotion for me but I am emotional person so perhaps that is why.
I know they are fluff but a lot of Marvel films fell off the scale garbage after a while, Black Panther I thought was rot, as was Captain Marvel and Endgame was total rubbish.
I watched about an hour of 1917 and thought, this is just like Saving Private Ryan.
john Wick was mentioned, the first half hour of 3 is worth it for the choreography of that first fight scene alone, but the rest of the film forgettable.
I know they are fluff but a lot of Marvel films fell off the scale garbage after a while, Black Panther I thought was rot, as was Captain Marvel and Endgame was total rubbish.
I watched about an hour of 1917 and thought, this is just like Saving Private Ryan.
john Wick was mentioned, the first half hour of 3 is worth it for the choreography of that first fight scene alone, but the rest of the film forgettable.
h0b0 said:
UnclePat said:
paul99 said:
The worst travesty I can think of was Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal skull.
When Shia LaBoeuf isn’t even the most annoying thing about your film, then you truly know you have a clunker of epic proportions on your hands. Escaping a nuclear blast in a fridge, FFS...
Well, I sat down to watch Crystal skull. Legit copy this time on my 120” screen as well. Sound up and open minded.
What a pile of s

Shia LaBoeuf, at what point did anyone think “talented actor”? He just spits out his lines with no care for “what’s my motivation”? It’s like he is set to random and hadn’t read any of the script until moments before. It is sad that they were obviously setting Shia up to take on the role of Indiana Jones and were hoping to have many sequels.
I like a good s

Spielberg argues with Lucas many times over it.
The legendary director has a message for Indiana Jones fans: Don't blame "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" on me.
The legendary director has a message for Indiana Jones fans: Don't blame "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" on me.
Edited by h0b0 on Monday 24th August 15:36
Seems to be a trait emerging of films people don't like because it's not the film they were expecting, rather than it being bad per-se. I think we can blame some trailers for that, a lot of them these days are really misleading.
I've read people didn't like 1917 and Dunkirk because they wanted a UK 'Saving Private Ryan' etc. I quite liked them because they did tell the 'small story' of one or two characters and their experiences, they would have only learned of the scale of it later on, at the time they were in their own small battles and I liked that.
Personally I didn't mind Prometheus and quite enjoyed the sequel, it's not that a saw something in it that others didn't, it was a quirk of fate. I was DYING to see 'Aliens 2' that was the film I wanted to see, a Sci-fi, horror action film. Space Marines, Xenomorphs, acid for blood, etc. But my daughter was born just before it came to the Cinema so I didn't go - by the time it came out for home viewing I already knew it was crap, low expectations made it a decent film.
The Phantom Menace was a massive disappointment, but in hindsight, they weren't about to let Star Wars age with the audience, I was a kid when the first ones turned up on Video in the UK, my parents bought me the toys, the lunch boxes, the whatever else. I was in my 20s when the prequels arrived, I'd spent the last couple of years watching Pulp Fiction, Heat and Fight Club, I wasn't going to buy the toys so they weren't going to make Reservoir Wookies to please me. The prequels got better as they went along.
I think for me the worst disappointment was The Last Jedi, I didn't expect much from The Force Awakens, but it was actually really good, it didn't aim so squarely at small kid market, it wasn't perfect but it 'felt' Star Wars, looked great and had enough nostalgia for miserable old gits like me. I didn't mind that Luke was only in for a few frames, frankly Mark Hamill isn't a great actor, really honestly he's not even a good one, that's why he voices Cartoons these days.
The Last Jedi though, it actively tries to alienate the original SW audience to make it more palatable to a younger audience by discrediting some of the fundamentals of the original films, it doesn't feel like "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away' it feels like more real-world like, it's too close to reality. Its more like the distant future with some aspects of Earth / Humanity still in-tact, worse still, it selfishly ruins some of the best parts of The Force Awakens, which not only damages that film, it hamstrung the final film. On top of the poor creative decisions, it's actually fundamentally a bad film. The story doesn't flow, characters are pushed off into pointless cul-de-sacs because they didn't know what to do with them and the attempted humour is poorly done.
I've read people didn't like 1917 and Dunkirk because they wanted a UK 'Saving Private Ryan' etc. I quite liked them because they did tell the 'small story' of one or two characters and their experiences, they would have only learned of the scale of it later on, at the time they were in their own small battles and I liked that.
Personally I didn't mind Prometheus and quite enjoyed the sequel, it's not that a saw something in it that others didn't, it was a quirk of fate. I was DYING to see 'Aliens 2' that was the film I wanted to see, a Sci-fi, horror action film. Space Marines, Xenomorphs, acid for blood, etc. But my daughter was born just before it came to the Cinema so I didn't go - by the time it came out for home viewing I already knew it was crap, low expectations made it a decent film.
The Phantom Menace was a massive disappointment, but in hindsight, they weren't about to let Star Wars age with the audience, I was a kid when the first ones turned up on Video in the UK, my parents bought me the toys, the lunch boxes, the whatever else. I was in my 20s when the prequels arrived, I'd spent the last couple of years watching Pulp Fiction, Heat and Fight Club, I wasn't going to buy the toys so they weren't going to make Reservoir Wookies to please me. The prequels got better as they went along.
I think for me the worst disappointment was The Last Jedi, I didn't expect much from The Force Awakens, but it was actually really good, it didn't aim so squarely at small kid market, it wasn't perfect but it 'felt' Star Wars, looked great and had enough nostalgia for miserable old gits like me. I didn't mind that Luke was only in for a few frames, frankly Mark Hamill isn't a great actor, really honestly he's not even a good one, that's why he voices Cartoons these days.
The Last Jedi though, it actively tries to alienate the original SW audience to make it more palatable to a younger audience by discrediting some of the fundamentals of the original films, it doesn't feel like "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away' it feels like more real-world like, it's too close to reality. Its more like the distant future with some aspects of Earth / Humanity still in-tact, worse still, it selfishly ruins some of the best parts of The Force Awakens, which not only damages that film, it hamstrung the final film. On top of the poor creative decisions, it's actually fundamentally a bad film. The story doesn't flow, characters are pushed off into pointless cul-de-sacs because they didn't know what to do with them and the attempted humour is poorly done.
Edited by P-Jay on Tuesday 25th August 12:05
LukeBrown66 said:
I would strongly disagree.
Aline is a thriller of the highest level, a very different film, they are the same subject yes, but Aliens is just more guns, action etc. the original is almost a horror film really, not an action movie.
I didn't write anything that disagrees with you.Aline is a thriller of the highest level, a very different film, they are the same subject yes, but Aliens is just more guns, action etc. the original is almost a horror film really, not an action movie.
Aliens is a war film, some say an allegory for the Vietnam war.
I happen to think it's one of the finest action films ever made and most certainly not crap.
blingybongy said:
Aliens, crap?
Erm no.
Aliens is better than Alien and quite probably the best sci-war film ever made.
It's also one of the most quotable films ever.
“No offense.”
“None taken.”
Are you replying to P-Jay? I think he was saying he wanted Prometheus to be "Aliens 2", i.e. a sequel to Aliens. But by the time he saw Prometheus he already knew it was crap therefore was pleasantly surprised when it was only mediocre.Erm no.
Aliens is better than Alien and quite probably the best sci-war film ever made.
It's also one of the most quotable films ever.
“No offense.”
“None taken.”
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