RE: Glorious Porsche 933 Carrera RS Clubsport for sale
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ReverendCounter said:
We do pay. I can see why someone might think it's free, if they've never looked into the huge amounts of trackers, cookies etc that PH uses to scrape as much data/info from you that they possibly can, in order to profit from.
As long as you can accept Haymarket allows Porsche to use PH as a media/promo platform, I can accept there is news to be had elsewhere.
If you firmly believe that you are somehow 'paying' for the service that Pistonheads provides and that this service is being carried out to an unacceptable standard then the consumer rights act has your back. Like I said; cancel your subscription, ask for a refund on your loses and move on.As long as you can accept Haymarket allows Porsche to use PH as a media/promo platform, I can accept there is news to be had elsewhere.
Either way any personal opinion that I may hold on any relationship that Haymarket (who don't own Pistonheads) may/may not have with Porsche (I've not actually expressed any) should have no baring on whether or not you are capable of accepting that there is news to be had elsewhere. Unless this is just another case of you requiring to be spoonfed?
Harrypop said:
If you firmly believe that you are somehow 'paying' for the service that Pistonheads provides and that this service is being carried out to an unacceptable standard then the consumer rights act has your back. Like I said; cancel your subscription, ask for a refund on your loses and move on.
Didn't say that. No need to take offence because I've said 'too much Porsche sometimes'. Guten Tag, Beschützer der Schweinefleischnachrichten.ReverendCounter said:
Didn't say that. No need to take offence because I've said 'too much Porsche sometimes'. Guten Tag, Beschützer der Schweinefleischnachrichten.
ReverendCounter said:
We do pay. I can see why someone might think it's free....
In your haste to try and win the internet for the day with spurious reasoning in a second language you have not only contradicted yourself but also managed to confuse being offended with what is merely a general lack of sympathy for your grievance. I'm surprised that you would still be here though if you feel that you are paying against you wishes for content you don't enjoy.......ReverendCounter said:
We do pay. I can see why someone might think it's free, if they've never looked into the huge amounts of trackers, cookies etc that PH uses to scrape as much data/info from you that they possibly can, in order to profit from.
As long as you can accept Haymarket allows Porsche to use PH as a media/promo platform, I can accept there is news to be had elsewhere.
Ffs go read whatcar. As long as you can accept Haymarket allows Porsche to use PH as a media/promo platform, I can accept there is news to be had elsewhere.
Harrypop said:
Thank you for the response. I have been fortunate to experience a 993 RS, but only for a relatively short blast so not nearly enough to pass any meaningful judgment on it overall, but even with that taken into account it felt like a suitably different experience to the later GT3 I was also able to bag a ride in (same owner). I can see why both him and his son have collated such a large collection spanning the decades when each has it's own distinctive character.
I went from this :
to this :
(It was as lightweight spec as you get whilst retaining a fully trimmed interior : Early non-airbag dashboard, factory fitted 993 Cup non-airbag steering wheel, no air con, no electric windows, RSR/Clubsport aero pack) lightweight single mass flywheel, clubsport lightweight bucket seats.
Due to the cabin architecture being so similar to the 964 RS, it all felt pretty familiar, and though the PAS made the driving experience easier/more pleasant, it did detract from the level of tactility provided by the 964.
From the 993 RS I went to this :
which felt (and may as well have been) from a different epoch, the cabin felt like that of modern car, the engine though "only" 3.6 litres and 360hp felt waaay faster than the 3.8 unit in the 993. The suspension was far more compliant, and the car felt like it was doing "a lot of the work" for you when you were going really quickly, though that came at the expense of a fairly hefty chunk of tactility and engagement.
The 911 DNA was clear and present in every iteration, but it was also very clear that every evolution became more polished and less tactile to drive.
ReverendCounter said:
Yeah, how dare anyone say 'sometimes, too much Porsche'
Well this month you've commented on 5 Porsche articles saying the same thing but haven't actually commented anything on any other car. You've commented the same thing 8 times on this thread alone. PH posts articles that get clicks, comments and traffic to the classifieds. If you want less Porsche content stop making stupid comments on them which sends the article straight back to the top of the forum again and guess what... even more of them. Personally I absolutely love articles like this; the more the merrier.Slippydiff said:
I went from this :
to this :
(It was as lightweight spec as you get whilst retaining a fully trimmed interior : Early non-airbag dashboard, factory fitted 993 Cup non-airbag steering wheel, no air con, no electric windows, RSR/Clubsport aero pack) lightweight single mass flywheel, clubsport lightweight bucket seats.
Due to the cabin architecture being so similar to the 964 RS, it all felt pretty familiar, and though the PAS made the driving experience easier/more pleasant, it did detract from the level of tactility provided by the 964.
From the 993 RS I went to this :
which felt (and may as well have been) from a different epoch, the cabin felt like that of modern car, the engine though "only" 3.6 litres and 360hp felt waaay faster than the 3.8 unit in the 993. The suspension was far more compliant, and the car felt like it was doing "a lot of the work" for you when you were going really quickly, though that came at the expense of a fairly hefty chunk of tactility and engagement.
The 911 DNA was clear and present in every iteration, but it was also very clear that every evolution became more polished and less tactile to drive.
Nice collection of cars to have had! I always have to look back and check to see if it was the car with the cup engine whenever I see a red 996 GT3, where did you go from there?to this :
(It was as lightweight spec as you get whilst retaining a fully trimmed interior : Early non-airbag dashboard, factory fitted 993 Cup non-airbag steering wheel, no air con, no electric windows, RSR/Clubsport aero pack) lightweight single mass flywheel, clubsport lightweight bucket seats.
Due to the cabin architecture being so similar to the 964 RS, it all felt pretty familiar, and though the PAS made the driving experience easier/more pleasant, it did detract from the level of tactility provided by the 964.
From the 993 RS I went to this :
which felt (and may as well have been) from a different epoch, the cabin felt like that of modern car, the engine though "only" 3.6 litres and 360hp felt waaay faster than the 3.8 unit in the 993. The suspension was far more compliant, and the car felt like it was doing "a lot of the work" for you when you were going really quickly, though that came at the expense of a fairly hefty chunk of tactility and engagement.
The 911 DNA was clear and present in every iteration, but it was also very clear that every evolution became more polished and less tactile to drive.
Nice collection of cars to have had! I always have to look back and check to see if it was the car with the cup engine whenever I see a red 996 GT3, where did you go from there?
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From the Zanzibar Mk1 996 GT3 I went to Midnight Blue 996 GT2, and from there to a Meteor grey Gen 1 997 GT3. From the 997 GT3 I went back to a Zanzibar 996 GT3, then onto another 996 GT2 in Basalt Black, from there I went to a 996 GT3 RS, then back to a Slate Grey Gen 997 GT3, before selling that to buy a Manthey modified Mk1 996 GT3 in Gloss Black whilst at the same time restoring a Ferrari Yellow 964 RS. I sold the Manthey GT3 two years later and less than six months after bought a Guards Red 996 GT3 Clubsport, and sold it and the restored 964 RS just after the market had peaked in 2014.
In early 2017 I bought a Guards Red 987 Cayman R and early in 2018 I bought the Mk1 996 GT3 that I had the Cup engine fitted to. Last year I bought a 987 3.4 S, but neither of the Caymans remained in my tenure for more than six months ...
The Cup car engined Mk 1 996 GT3 (AKA ZanziCup) proved to be something of a blind alley ... but it also coincided with a move down to North London for nearly two years where I had no garage and no decent driving roads either. I sold it in June 2020.
I moved back up to the Midlands last December, and now I'm waiting for the used car market to implode before dipping my toe into 911 ownership once again !!
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From the Zanzibar Mk1 996 GT3 I went to Midnight Blue 996 GT2, and from there to a Meteor grey Gen 1 997 GT3. From the 997 GT3 I went back to a Zanzibar 996 GT3, then onto another 996 GT2 in Basalt Black, from there I went to a 996 GT3 RS, then back to a Slate Grey Gen 997 GT3, before selling that to buy a Manthey modified Mk1 996 GT3 in Gloss Black whilst at the same time restoring a Ferrari Yellow 964 RS. I sold the Manthey GT3 two years later and less than six months after bought a Guards Red 996 GT3 Clubsport, and sold it and the restored 964 RS just after the market had peaked in 2014.
In early 2017 I bought a Guards Red 987 Cayman R and early in 2018 I bought the Mk1 996 GT3 that I had the Cup engine fitted to. Last year I bought a 987 3.4 S, but neither of the Caymans remained in my tenure for more than six months ...
The Cup car engined Mk 1 996 GT3 (AKA ZanziCup) proved to be something of a blind alley ... but it also coincided with a move down to North London for nearly two years where I had no garage and no decent driving roads either. I sold it in June 2020.
I moved back up to the Midlands last December, and now I'm waiting for the used car market to implode before dipping my toe into 911 ownership once again !!
fblm said:
ReverendCounter said:
Yeah, how dare anyone say 'sometimes, too much Porsche'
Well this month you've commented on 5 Porsche articles saying the same thing but haven't actually commented anything on any other car. You've commented the same thing 8 times on this thread alone. PH posts articles that get clicks, comments and traffic to the classifieds. If you want less Porsche content stop making stupid comments on them which sends the article straight back to the top of the forum again and guess what... even more of them. Personally I absolutely love articles like this; the more the merrier.Utterly superb video on a PHer's '74 Camaro Z28: https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-features/1974-...
Slippydiff said:
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You just reminded me that I really need to get the 996 CLR from Munich before summer is over…. And then drive some mountain roads. I love the 996 A car like the above 993 is unfortunately not in budget - your words in god’’s ear re market implosion ….
Edit: somehow messed that quote up / so now cleaned it up
Edited by MDL111 on Wednesday 31st August 16:35
Edited by MDL111 on Wednesday 31st August 16:35
Slippydiff said:
From the Zanzibar Mk1 996 GT3 I went to Midnight Blue 996 GT2, and from there to a Meteor grey Gen 1 997 GT3. From the 997 GT3 I went back to a Zanzibar 996 GT3, then onto another 996 GT2 in Basalt Black, from there I went to a 996 GT3 RS, then back to a Slate Grey Gen 997 GT3, before selling that to buy a Manthey modified Mk1 996 GT3 in Gloss Black whilst at the same time restoring a Ferrari Yellow 964 RS. I sold the Manthey GT3 two years later and less than six months after bought a Guards Red 996 GT3 Clubsport, and sold it and the restored 964 RS just after the market had peaked in 2014.
In early 2017 I bought a Guards Red 987 Cayman R and early in 2018 I bought the Mk1 996 GT3 that I had the Cup engine fitted to. Last year I bought a 987 3.4 S, but neither of the Caymans remained in my tenure for more than six months ...
The Cup car engined Mk 1 996 GT3 (AKA ZanziCup) proved to be something of a blind alley ... but it also coincided with a move down to North London for nearly two years where I had no garage and no decent driving roads either. I sold it in June 2020.
I moved back up to the Midlands last December, and now I'm waiting for the used car market to implode before dipping my toe into 911 ownership once again !!
So the shortest odds will be on a 996 of some sort then!? In early 2017 I bought a Guards Red 987 Cayman R and early in 2018 I bought the Mk1 996 GT3 that I had the Cup engine fitted to. Last year I bought a 987 3.4 S, but neither of the Caymans remained in my tenure for more than six months ...
The Cup car engined Mk 1 996 GT3 (AKA ZanziCup) proved to be something of a blind alley ... but it also coincided with a move down to North London for nearly two years where I had no garage and no decent driving roads either. I sold it in June 2020.
I moved back up to the Midlands last December, and now I'm waiting for the used car market to implode before dipping my toe into 911 ownership once again !!
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