American Presidential candidates GoP/Dems

[amusingduck]

rscott said:

Halb said:

rscott said:

Er, looks like just 2 more videos from a raving nutter.

To whom are you referring?

No comment!

Cut him some slack, he's a fellow human after all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCWQu-HVn2s

[rscott]

5ohmustang said:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/liberal-bi...

http://www.showbiz411.com/2016/10/18/michael-moore...

Have you watched Trumpland?

[5ohmustang]

FN2TypeR said:

I mean no disrespect 5oh, but are you unwell?

Dude, I love the smell of victory in the morning.

[scherzkeks]

Your symbolic act of the day -- Hillary campaign bus caught dumping human waste in a storm drain in Georgia.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-19/hillary-c...

[5ohmustang]

rscott said:

Have you watched Trumpland?

No.

[5ohmustang]

scherzkeks said:

Your symbolic act of the day -- Hillary campaign bus caught dumping human waste in a storm drain in Georgia.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-19/hillary-c...

I don't know if that's illegal to do in the UK, but dumping black water down a public drain here is a big no no. Again anyone else would be prosecuted.

[5ohmustang]

Reposting these links to the top, for those who don't have the time to go back through 5 pages of apologist comments.

https://youtu.be/LdWqDA4qAwk
https://youtu.be/hDc8PVCvfKs
https://youtu.be/e2f13f2awK4

[Europa1]

rscott said:

5ohmustang said:

https://youtu.be/qxaZoEW-Wvs
https://youtu.be/4LUmSOEY6NM

Freedom just woke up this morning.

Edited by 5ohmustang on Wednesday 19th October 15:22

Er, looks like just 2 more videos from a raving nutter.

"Freedom just woke up this morning" - is he trying to out-patriotic-American a patriotic American?

If Freedom is only waking up 20 days before the election, then it's a fat lazy slob.

If the polls are correct and Hillary is gong to win, I must instruct my broker to go long on stocks in purveyors of canned goods as 5oh and co stock up for armageddon.

[rscott]

5ohmustang said:

Reposting these links to the top, for those who don't have the time to go back through 5 pages of apologist comments.

https://youtu.be/LdWqDA4qAwk
https://youtu.be/hDc8PVCvfKs
https://youtu.be/e2f13f2awK4

Because you'd never bother to actually read any comments people make.. Especially around the last video - if you watch it, it's clear she laughs about the reliability of polygraphs, not about getting someone off. The guy had already pleaded guilty..

[mikal83]

5ohmustang said:

Reposting these links to the top, for those who don't have the time to go back through 5 pages of apologist comments.

https://youtu.be/LdWqDA4qAwk
https://youtu.be/hDc8PVCvfKs
https://youtu.be/e2f13f2awK4

Or rather for the 3 people that read anything you put up you mean!(and that includes you)

[longblackcoat]

scherzkeks said:

longblackcoat said:

Sorry, but I completely disagree. His comments on Trump's use of leadership, persuasion and psychology are tendentious at best, and deluded at best.

Read the quote in my post above and tell me where the logic lies.

Taking a more extreme position and then moving toward the center is basically negotiation 101.

Yes, but taking the Trump line per Adams (my italics): "Trump always takes the extreme position on matters of safety and security for the country, even if those positions are unconstitutional, impractical, evil, or something that the military would refuse to do. Normal people see this as a dangerous situation. Trained persuaders like me see this as something called pacing and leading." is not negotiation.

It's demagoguery.

[frankenstein12]

Raygun said:

MrBrightSi said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aynfXGaV-EQ

I hate to get involved in conspiracies and all that.

He's also given the BLM terrorists a st tonne of money.

I wouldn't call BLM a terrorist organisation, a lot of black people have been mistreated in the States.

Well I would. They are a terrorist organisation. Everywhere they go violence follows.

[frankenstein12]

As an aside to all this I have been lightly following the Kim Dotcom case and it shows pretty much what Trump is talking about which is press and government dishonesty.

A little while ago the US applied for and were granted an order to be able to seize all his assets which includes any money etc they hold under the spurious case they brought against him.

They have done it under a law whereby although he is not American or resident nor has he been found guilty of any crime due to a loophole in US law they can seize his assets as he considered as a fugitive.

The system is fundamentally broken and corrupt and you would be stupid to believe otherwise.

Hillary was and is VERY much guilty of a crime which the FBI should have had her charged. Even now there is more than enough evidence of a crime yet she has not and will not be charged.

I work in the UK in Gov secure systems and I regularly have to undergo security training on information security which points out very clearly what information security is and what the meaning of various markings etc are and I don't hold the highest clearance.

She was the wife of the POTUS and was and is secretary of state meaning she holds the highest clearance there is and as such will have had to undergo regular refreshers in what is and how to deal with secure information. For her to therefore claim she did not know what the (C) in emails meant is a 100% bare faced lie and evidence of wrongdoing.

Others in the US have gone to jail for much less. She wrote and sent emails from her private email and put (C) markers on it herself.

There is just one long trail of corruption. But hey who cares if she has blatantly broken the law and used her position to avoid jail.

She is a blatant criminal and that is one of the main reasons I cannot and would not ever support her holding a post anywhere in US government.

Oh yeah she lied about Benghazi too of course among many other alleged (and I would believe) crimes.

[anonymous-user]

frankenstein12 said:

Well I would. They are a terrorist organisation. Everywhere they go violence follows.

Don't really matter what you think, there not on this list
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_t...

[andy_s]

frankenstein12 said:

Raygun said:

MrBrightSi said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aynfXGaV-EQ

I hate to get involved in conspiracies and all that.

He's also given the BLM terrorists a st tonne of money.

I wouldn't call BLM a terrorist organisation, a lot of black people have been mistreated in the States.

Well I would. They are a terrorist organisation. Everywhere they go violence follows.

Bit like the Russian footy team.

[Halb]

Or English fans.

[anonymous-user]

Halb said:

Or English fans.

Not saying we havn't got the odd thug but my mate knew a thing or two about what was happening at the Euro Championships in France this year and he reckons a lot of them Russian thugs were backed by the Russian government, for all this country's faults I don't think we will ever see our government backing football thugs.

[5ohmustang]

Podesta email "she does not know what planet she is on"

http://www.infowars.com/wikileaks-emails-hillary-c...

[Vaud]

frankenstein12 said:

I work in the UK in Gov secure systems and I regularly have to undergo security training on information security which points out very clearly what information security is and what the meaning of various markings etc are and I don't hold the highest clearance.

Off topic....

Then you will also know that you shouldn't share on open forums that you have clearance of any form as that can make you a target for "bad actors", whether you are directly identifiable or not.

I'm not saying that you do, but it's like those that publish their clearance on LinkedIn as part of their CV. Basically saying "here is a bunch of data on me that will help compromise my security"

[scherzkeks]

longblackcoat said:

Yes, but taking the Trump line per Adams (my italics): "Trump always takes the extreme position on matters of safety and security for the country, even if those positions are unconstitutional, impractical, evil, or something that the military would refuse to do. Normal people see this as a dangerous situation. Trained persuaders like me see this as something called pacing and leading." is not negotiation.

It's demagoguery.

I don't entirely agree with SA on that point. He has taken somewhat extreme positions at different points, but nothing much out of the ordinary using history as a yardstick.

Regarding your comment on demagoguery, it's another soft-serve Clinton talking point, IMO. The man is a hustler and presents himself poorly in many regards, but a demagogue? Evidence please.