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Driver101 said:
I've seen many people make the claim. Reasonable would be the last word I'd use when reading their logic and bitterness in their justification. It's always extremely bitter and bigoted people that express views like this.
This kind of nonsense rhetoric is exactly why there’s a 4 page argument every time you post, Simoid is handing out the proverbial olive branch and you can’t help but still have a dig.Edited by Driver101 on Wednesday 3rd November 23:45
Dehumanising people with different opinions as extremist bigots despite them trying to put it across in a respectable debate does nothing to come to a conclusion. In fact it paints the opposite picture of what your trying to accuse.
Fwiw I see the point simoid is trying to make however I disagreed at the time ( both songs being about sending people back to where they came from as they are unwanted, simoid can correct me if I’ve misunderstood) that doesn’t make him a bigot.
Hopefully this is the end of that and we can talk about the football.
An absolute must win for rangers if we want last 16 football, hoping we’ve turned a corner on our poor form of late but even when we played terrible we dominated brondby in the first leg.
2-0 rangers
Ps can anyone decipher what the hibs ceo is talking about regarding the blue half of Glasgow and his players having covid
Driver101 said:
That's some mess Hibs are in with Covid. It's right across the club. I hope all players don't have any health issues.
It'll be interesting to hear if the accusations of ignoring Covid protocols are true. Are Hibs in danger of having to forfeit points?
It is a worry. Our next game is the semi-final, which isn't ideal.It'll be interesting to hear if the accusations of ignoring Covid protocols are true. Are Hibs in danger of having to forfeit points?
I'm not concerned about the accusations of the first team ignoring Covid protocols. Lots of nonsense as far as I can see.
dalzo said:
there’s a 4 page argument every time you post
Glad Rangers at least got a point back tonight. Still in a good place to finish second in the group to go through. That of course depends on a result against Sparta at Ibrox which will now be in the 'must win' category. Good to have Ryan Kent back. Instant impact from having him come on tonight and set up Hagi for the goal. Ryan Jack should be back after the internationals as well (hopefully).
Thought rangers were rotten again last night, lucky to get away with the point.
Stevie g has a few big decisions to make regarding some of his players that just aren’t doing it for him. Alfredo unfortunately needs a wee spell on the bench until he loses a bit of timber and gets that snarl back in his game.
It sets up a winner takes all with Sparta and the goal difference is in our favour but they need to get the finger out. Could tell Gerrard and hagi were both raging in the post match interviews
Stevie g has a few big decisions to make regarding some of his players that just aren’t doing it for him. Alfredo unfortunately needs a wee spell on the bench until he loses a bit of timber and gets that snarl back in his game.
It sets up a winner takes all with Sparta and the goal difference is in our favour but they need to get the finger out. Could tell Gerrard and hagi were both raging in the post match interviews
Rangers have posted a £23.5m operating loss, year to 30 June 2021. Anyone know if these are audited accounts?
That's not sustainable and that's despite two (I think) share issues and various investor loans (>£20m apparently).
Is this not making a mockery of the Financial Fair Play rules?
That's a lot of debt accrued for one league title. If I was a Rangers fan, I'd be seriously worried about administration or liquidation.
That's not sustainable and that's despite two (I think) share issues and various investor loans (>£20m apparently).
Is this not making a mockery of the Financial Fair Play rules?
That's a lot of debt accrued for one league title. If I was a Rangers fan, I'd be seriously worried about administration or liquidation.
Edinburger said:
Rangers have posted a £23.5m operating loss, year to 30 June 2021. Anyone know if these are audited accounts?
That's not sustainable and that's despite two (I think) share issues and various investor loans (>£20m apparently).
Is this not making a mockery of the Financial Fair Play rules?
That's a lot of debt accrued for one league title. If I was a Rangers fan, I'd be seriously worried about administration or liquidation.
I may be talking nonsense here but I believe if a company goes bust. Loans given by directors are first in line to be paid out in administration. It is a totally unsustainable model but someone will be along to argue that it is.That's not sustainable and that's despite two (I think) share issues and various investor loans (>£20m apparently).
Is this not making a mockery of the Financial Fair Play rules?
That's a lot of debt accrued for one league title. If I was a Rangers fan, I'd be seriously worried about administration or liquidation.
Edinburger said:
Driver101 said:
That's some mess Hibs are in with Covid. It's right across the club. I hope all players don't have any health issues.
It'll be interesting to hear if the accusations of ignoring Covid protocols are true. Are Hibs in danger of having to forfeit points?
It is a worry. Our next game is the semi-final, which isn't ideal.It'll be interesting to hear if the accusations of ignoring Covid protocols are true. Are Hibs in danger of having to forfeit points?
I'm not concerned about the accusations of the first team ignoring Covid protocols. Lots of nonsense as far as I can see.
simoid said:
Driver101 said:
There is differing opinions which we can all respect. Then there is stuff like this. If you struggle to see the issues, then it highlights your issues.
I'll pose the original question again. What other reasonable person has linked the famine song to the Flower of Scotland? Show me one person to back up your claim?
I've seen many people make the claim. Reasonable would be the last word I'd use when reading their logic and bitterness in their justification. It's always extremely bitter and bigoted people that express views like this.
FWIW I’m neither bigoted nor bitter. I’m a happy, open person who is delighted to share my street, pub, neighbourhood, town, nation, etc with literally anyone. In actual fact, it’s a running joke that I can strike up a conversation and rapport with anyone in short order, often making long term friendships out of it.I'll pose the original question again. What other reasonable person has linked the famine song to the Flower of Scotland? Show me one person to back up your claim?
I've seen many people make the claim. Reasonable would be the last word I'd use when reading their logic and bitterness in their justification. It's always extremely bitter and bigoted people that express views like this.
Edited by Driver101 on Wednesday 3rd November 23:45
I don’t think I need to explain again why I dislike Flower of Scotland. The two songs are linked as they both fall under the category of “negative towards a group of people” but to very different extents. Perhaps I can emphasise (once more) that I recognise the Famine Song is grossly offensive and far beyond the line of reasonable behaviour, to a much greater extent than Flower of Scotland. I do not equate the two by any stretch of the imagination.
The famine song is sung solely by bigots, intended to cause harm and be antagonistic. To compare the songs in any context is completely unjustifiable
Are you comfortable with God Save the Queen?
Shambler said:
Edinburger said:
Rangers have posted a £23.5m operating loss, year to 30 June 2021. Anyone know if these are audited accounts?
That's not sustainable and that's despite two (I think) share issues and various investor loans (>£20m apparently).
Is this not making a mockery of the Financial Fair Play rules?
That's a lot of debt accrued for one league title. If I was a Rangers fan, I'd be seriously worried about administration or liquidation.
I may be talking nonsense here but I believe if a company goes bust. Loans given by directors are first in line to be paid out in administration. It is a totally unsustainable model but someone will be along to argue that it is.That's not sustainable and that's despite two (I think) share issues and various investor loans (>£20m apparently).
Is this not making a mockery of the Financial Fair Play rules?
That's a lot of debt accrued for one league title. If I was a Rangers fan, I'd be seriously worried about administration or liquidation.
When the old club went bust owing £140m and the new club has already made £100m+ losses something has to be done.
FFP rules don't appear to mean anything. Lessons haven't been learned.
Driver101 said:
Shambler said:
Edinburger said:
Rangers have posted a £23.5m operating loss, year to 30 June 2021. Anyone know if these are audited accounts?
That's not sustainable and that's despite two (I think) share issues and various investor loans (>£20m apparently).
Is this not making a mockery of the Financial Fair Play rules?
That's a lot of debt accrued for one league title. If I was a Rangers fan, I'd be seriously worried about administration or liquidation.
I may be talking nonsense here but I believe if a company goes bust. Loans given by directors are first in line to be paid out in administration. It is a totally unsustainable model but someone will be along to argue that it is.That's not sustainable and that's despite two (I think) share issues and various investor loans (>£20m apparently).
Is this not making a mockery of the Financial Fair Play rules?
That's a lot of debt accrued for one league title. If I was a Rangers fan, I'd be seriously worried about administration or liquidation.
When the old club went bust owing £140m and the new club has already made £100m+ losses something has to be done.
FFP rules don't appear to mean anything. Lessons haven't been learned.
Interesting how none of the usual suspects have commented on this…
On the Rangers financial figures,,,
I assume it's Park and the other guy - Bennett ? - that's putting money in to keep things going ?
I also assume they're holding out to hopefully get their hands on the champions league money next season, that should be £30-40M ?
That's a big gamble.
The SPFL and the media are never going to question the financial goings on at Ibrox.
A quick google on the financial figures reports eveything is fine and they are on course to be self sustainable by 2025.
I assume it's Park and the other guy - Bennett ? - that's putting money in to keep things going ?
I also assume they're holding out to hopefully get their hands on the champions league money next season, that should be £30-40M ?
That's a big gamble.
The SPFL and the media are never going to question the financial goings on at Ibrox.
A quick google on the financial figures reports eveything is fine and they are on course to be self sustainable by 2025.
Drive Blind said:
The SPFL and the media are never going to question the financial goings on at Ibrox.
Andy Walker was the last person to question Rangers' finances. He was banned from Ibrox for doing so. People are too scared to speak out due to the harassment they will get. I see Douglas Park saying the SPFL are underselling Scottish football. Nothing like shifting the blame as per usual. If companies were so interested in pumping money into Scottish football clubs he would be able to command that money for Rangers.
Ironic that after nobody willing to sponsor the league the SPFL find the best deal ever and it's Douglas Park doing his best to ruin the deal and he's getting on the back of the SPFL again.
Until Rangers start trying to be part of Scottish football rather than trying to pick fights with everyone then it's only going to push people away. It's toxic.
Edited by Driver101 on Saturday 6th November 22:37
Celtic doing there annual disgracing themselves when it comes to Remembrance Day minutes silence, that’s 2/2 disgraced in as many weeks.
They have a real rotten problem at the club.
Looking forward to our match today, Ross county are bottom so hoping rangers go for the jugular from start to finish today but with current form anything can happen.
Be happy with a win but more important a good 90 mins of not dropping the tempo
They have a real rotten problem at the club.
Looking forward to our match today, Ross county are bottom so hoping rangers go for the jugular from start to finish today but with current form anything can happen.
Be happy with a win but more important a good 90 mins of not dropping the tempo
Rangers were great today. Kudos to Gerrard for backing up his words on Thursday and going with a much changed side.
Hagi and Kent were excellent today, sakala had some good moments and bacuna done well too
Kent’s goal was unreal as was bacunas including the build up play.
2 poor defensive errors punished need to be ironed out.
Big bonus seeing Jack come back from injury too, will be like a new signing
Hagi and Kent were excellent today, sakala had some good moments and bacuna done well too
Kent’s goal was unreal as was bacunas including the build up play.
2 poor defensive errors punished need to be ironed out.
Big bonus seeing Jack come back from injury too, will be like a new signing
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