Is it illegal to park a commercial vehicle on the road?
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of course it's illegal.
this is why every delivery van/truck/artic employs the parachute delivery system illustrated here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5mmZQYkAl8
this is why every delivery van/truck/artic employs the parachute delivery system illustrated here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5mmZQYkAl8
I had control over 3 varying size recovery trucks,3.5,6.5 and 7.5 ton,
I could park the 3.5 tonner and the 6.5 no problems but the 7.5 tonner would usually get a ticket.
Its down to the local councils usually,up to 3.5 ton is usually considered ok.
If the vehicle has an operators license sometimes the stipulations are that it isn`t parked on a street,like our 7.5 tonner.
I could park the 3.5 tonner and the 6.5 no problems but the 7.5 tonner would usually get a ticket.
Its down to the local councils usually,up to 3.5 ton is usually considered ok.
If the vehicle has an operators license sometimes the stipulations are that it isn`t parked on a street,like our 7.5 tonner.
db said:
of course it's illegal.
this is why every delivery van/truck/artic employs the parachute delivery system illustrated here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5mmZQYkAl8
Your about as funny as an STI.this is why every delivery van/truck/artic employs the parachute delivery system illustrated here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5mmZQYkAl8
Did you read the post? I didn't say when the mini bus is being used for it's intended purpose. I stated on a night when it is blatantly not being used.
Corpulent Tosser said:
Why would it be illegal ?
Surely if it is taxed, insured, MOTed it has the same parking rights as any other vehicle.
What is your point ?
Just got an awkward neighbour who parks said van in a position that makes it difficult to get in and out of drive. Despite having a driveway to use.Surely if it is taxed, insured, MOTed it has the same parking rights as any other vehicle.
What is your point ?
I wasn't sure if there was different laws governing the use of commercial/company vehicles outside of
work hours.
seagrey said:
I had control over 3 varying size recovery trucks,3.5,6.5 and 7.5 ton,
I could park the 3.5 tonner and the 6.5 no problems but the 7.5 tonner would usually get a ticket.
Its down to the local councils usually,up to 3.5 ton is usually considered ok.
If the vehicle has an operators license sometimes the stipulations are that it isn`t parked on a street,like our 7.5 tonner.
I used to keep our 7.5t tilt slide in a handy yard down the road from me, but the lads occasionally took it home when on call. Never had an issue in our boroughs, but I know an operator up the road had a hell of a time with Sutton and Merton councils. Mind you his lads covered the police contracts so had to have immediate access to the trucks to keep within the ETAs. All fun and games..I could park the 3.5 tonner and the 6.5 no problems but the 7.5 tonner would usually get a ticket.
Its down to the local councils usually,up to 3.5 ton is usually considered ok.
If the vehicle has an operators license sometimes the stipulations are that it isn`t parked on a street,like our 7.5 tonner.
The trouble with the big stuff is that it's guaranteed to get up someone's nose! Plus some of the drivers down exactly help themselves as to where they park!
Corpulent Tosser said:
Why would it be illegal ?
Surely if it is taxed, insured, MOTed it has the same parking rights as any other vehicle.
What is your point ?
Any PSV with a seating capacity of 9 or over will generally require an Operators Licence to be used commercially. The terms of the Licence include a caveat that vehicles will be returned to an authorised base when not in use. Outside the house on a residential street would not be classed as a suitable base. Surely if it is taxed, insured, MOTed it has the same parking rights as any other vehicle.
What is your point ?
Therefore a check of the Operators Licence disc, usually by the tax disc or the passenger door, to obtain the licence number (PHxxxx, PDxxxx, PFxxxx etc), followed by a call to VOSA on 0300 1239000 might elicit some form of action some time in the next decade, maybe. If you're lucky.
However, there are also two schemes for not for profit operators of PSVs the section 19 & 22 community bus permits. If they are being run under one of those then I'm not sure about the need to return to base. Seeing the amount of regulations they can ignore that apply to the rest of the industry it wouldn't surprise me if they were entitled to park a Volvo Carrus on your lawn and then bill you for tyre tread mud removal.
Babu 01 said:
Any PSV with a seating capacity of 9 or over will generally require an Operators Licence to be used commercially. The terms of the Licence include a caveat that vehicles will be returned to an authorised base when not in use. Outside the house on a residential street would not be classed as a suitable base.
Therefore a check of the Operators Licence disc, usually by the tax disc or the passenger door, to obtain the licence number (PHxxxx, PDxxxx, PFxxxx etc), followed by a call to VOSA on 0300 1239000 might elicit some form of action some time in the next decade, maybe. If you're lucky.
However, there are also two schemes for not for profit operators of PSVs the section 19 & 22 community bus permits. If they are being run under one of those then I'm not sure about the need to return to base. Seeing the amount of regulations they can ignore that apply to the rest of the industry it wouldn't surprise me if they were entitled to park a Volvo Carrus on your lawn and then bill you for tyre tread mud removal.
if it;s run by a charity I suspect it'll be on an S19 permit, i'm not sure if there is any requirement regarding returning to base as it's rare i drive the s19 vehicles for several days in a row but do on occasion take RRVs and Ambulances home (SJA) when i'm using them for several days or have late finishes / early starts ... Therefore a check of the Operators Licence disc, usually by the tax disc or the passenger door, to obtain the licence number (PHxxxx, PDxxxx, PFxxxx etc), followed by a call to VOSA on 0300 1239000 might elicit some form of action some time in the next decade, maybe. If you're lucky.
However, there are also two schemes for not for profit operators of PSVs the section 19 & 22 community bus permits. If they are being run under one of those then I'm not sure about the need to return to base. Seeing the amount of regulations they can ignore that apply to the rest of the industry it wouldn't surprise me if they were entitled to park a Volvo Carrus on your lawn and then bill you for tyre tread mud removal.
Road Vehcile Lighting Regulations (and I'm summarising here so don't go getting all smartarse and pointing out various irrelevant nuances) - say that all vehicles must display position lamps (ie sidelights) when parked on the road at night.
Then there is an exception for certain classes of vehicles parked on roads subject to a 30 mph limit or less, which are set out as:
(7) The classes of vehicle referred to in paragraph (5) are–
(a)a motor vehicle being a goods vehicle the unladen weight of which does not exceed 1525 kg;
(b)a passenger vehicle other than a bus;
(c)an invalid carriage; and
(d)a motor cycle or a pedal cycle in either case with or without a sidecar;
The vehicle must be parked in a laybe, or a parking place, or, if on the road, no closer than 10 metres to any junction etc.
So a goods vehicle larger than 1525 kg should be lit if parked on the road at night. So should any vehicle with a trailer, or a bus (whether a minibus comes under that description will depend on its size and whether it falls under the "community bus permit" scheme etc as somebody else pointed out earlier).
That's the law. Whether or not you'll ever manage to persuade the police to go around ticketing everything bigger than an Escort van parked without lights on the road at night, is another matter...
Then there is an exception for certain classes of vehicles parked on roads subject to a 30 mph limit or less, which are set out as:
(7) The classes of vehicle referred to in paragraph (5) are–
(a)a motor vehicle being a goods vehicle the unladen weight of which does not exceed 1525 kg;
(b)a passenger vehicle other than a bus;
(c)an invalid carriage; and
(d)a motor cycle or a pedal cycle in either case with or without a sidecar;
The vehicle must be parked in a laybe, or a parking place, or, if on the road, no closer than 10 metres to any junction etc.
So a goods vehicle larger than 1525 kg should be lit if parked on the road at night. So should any vehicle with a trailer, or a bus (whether a minibus comes under that description will depend on its size and whether it falls under the "community bus permit" scheme etc as somebody else pointed out earlier).
That's the law. Whether or not you'll ever manage to persuade the police to go around ticketing everything bigger than an Escort van parked without lights on the road at night, is another matter...
Carrot said:
Lucas North said:
tvrgit said:
Road Vehcile Lighting Regulations (and I'm summarising here so don't go getting all smartarse and pointing out various irrelevant nuances)
I couldn't help but laugh.Good entertainment though...
db said:
of course it's illegal.
this is why every delivery van/truck/artic employs the parachute delivery system illustrated here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5mmZQYkAl8
What i would like to know is the price of a tub of Utterley Butterley in my local Tescos. Any chance you can send me a totally irrelevant You Tube link which will leave me no wiser as to want I want to know? Cheers mate.this is why every delivery van/truck/artic employs the parachute delivery system illustrated here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5mmZQYkAl8
JM said:
Ruskie said:
Just got an awkward neighbour who parks said van in a position that makes it difficult to get in and out of drive. Despite having a driveway to use.
If your access is blocked just contact the police.7mike said:
db said:
of course it's illegal.
this is why every delivery van/truck/artic employs the parachute delivery system illustrated here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5mmZQYkAl8
What i would like to know is the price of a tub of Utterley Butterley in my local Tescos. Any chance you can send me a totally irrelevant You Tube link which will leave me no wiser as to want I want to know? Cheers mate.this is why every delivery van/truck/artic employs the parachute delivery system illustrated here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5mmZQYkAl8
utterly butterly hope this helps you find it in in your local tesco. as for price, i have no idea.
irrelevant? probably.
almost as much as the op's question. he asked if it was illegal to park a commercial vehicle on the road.
the answer seems to be yes and no, or maybe.
his question should have been "should i walk over the road and ask the driver to park it somewhere less obstructive, or should i ask many folk, with many opinions, what they think the law states?"
silly question = silly answer. hence the
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