Hi Spec 2 piece brake option

Hi Spec 2 piece brake option

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woody vt

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1,890 posts

217 months

Thursday 23rd June 2011
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I'm currently talking with Hi Spec brakes about getting bells produced to fit the front of the Monaro.

Rotors to suit are available readily and if an "off the shelf" option for bells was available, who would be interested if keenly priced?

Rotors are available to suit VXR and CV8 comfortably (a mm or two different max in diameter) and bells would be universal across the range of models.

I'm just trying to gauge numbers that would be INTERESTED for info purposes. I'm not taking names for an order, there is no obligation to take your interest any further if you don't wish to.

The same could also be done for R8 owners so include yourselves also.

Thanks folks.

Monaro

1 Woody VT

VXR8


Edited by woody vt on Thursday 23 June 15:24

gsd2000

11,515 posts

184 months

Thursday 23rd June 2011
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Rear monaro 2 piece to suit ap size calipers would be good

woody vt

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1,890 posts

217 months

Thursday 23rd June 2011
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gsd2000 said:
Rear monaro 2 piece to suit ap size calipers would be good


That's next... but the discussions will extend to that this week also.

maxmc2

2,061 posts

186 months

Thursday 23rd June 2011
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woody vt said:
I'm currently talking with Hi Spec brakes about getting bells produced to fit the front of the Monaro.

Rotors to suit are available readily and if an "off the shelf" option for bells was available, who would be interested if keenly priced?

Rotors are available to suit VXR and CV8 comfortably (a mm or two different max in diameter) and bells would be universal across the range of models.

I'm just trying to gauge numbers that would be INTERESTED for info purposes. I'm not taking names for an order, there is no obligation to take your interest any further if you don't wish to.

The same could also be done for R8 owners so include yourselves also.

Thanks folks.

Monaro

1 Woody VT

VXR8


Edited by woody vt on Thursday 23 June 15:24
What are these bells you talk of??

robbyd

599 posts

176 months

Thursday 23rd June 2011
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Hi Spec are great - I have a set of their 6-pots on the front of my Legacy and they work really well. Easy to swap discs when the time comes too, as the alloy bells are separate. If these will fit a GTS-R then I'm interested - cheers

woody vt

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1,890 posts

217 months

Thursday 23rd June 2011
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maxmc2 said:
woody vt said:
I'm currently talking with Hi Spec brakes about getting bells produced to fit the front of the Monaro.

Rotors to suit are available readily and if an "off the shelf" option for bells was available, who would be interested if keenly priced?

Rotors are available to suit VXR and CV8 comfortably (a mm or two different max in diameter) and bells would be universal across the range of models.

I'm just trying to gauge numbers that would be INTERESTED for info purposes. I'm not taking names for an order, there is no obligation to take your interest any further if you don't wish to.

The same could also be done for R8 owners so include yourselves also.

Thanks folks.

Monaro

1 Woody VT

VXR8


Edited by woody vt on Thursday 23 June 15:24


What are these bells you talk of??


The discs would be two piece, allowing just the actual friction surface (the bits the pads act on) to be changed in future when worn. This means a lower replacement cost and lots of options for disc material and design as well as less unsprung weight which will aid handling and give your suspension an easier time.
The Bells are effectively the hub portion of a normal disc, machined from aluminium alloy to be attached to the rotor (friction) surface. See link below

www.dcperformance.co.uk/images/cat_images/hispec-monster6.jpg


As an example, VXR front discs (rotors) could be changed for around £340. CV8 is less still.
Also, this is a very cost effective long term option for GTS owners with Harrop brakes. The 343mm discs required to service the GTS are very expensive and new rotors could be sourced using HiSpec for almost half the current cost.

Obviously initial purchase will incorporate the cost of the bells too. I'll have a cost estimate in a day or two.

I should also add that this setup would use your current calipers. However, any current Holden / HSV caliper may be used with the correct sized rotors.

Edited by woody vt on Thursday 23 June 18:20

After_Shock

8,751 posts

221 months

Thursday 23rd June 2011
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Who would supply the rotors, Hi Spec only?

stevieturbo

17,270 posts

248 months

Thursday 23rd June 2011
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Various people make discs, but they also vary in thickness, pad contact area, bolt numbers, bolt PCD etc.

Custom bells for any setup would generally be sub £200 for a pair ( fronts ) Then it's the purchase price of discs after that.

The likes of AP or Alcon discs are a clean fortune and could easily be £250-300 each.

Some of the other suppliers, Wilwood etc are usually a lot less.

woody vt

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1,890 posts

217 months

Thursday 23rd June 2011
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After_Shock said:
Who would supply the rotors, Hi Spec only?


As Stevie mentioned, rotors can vary tremendously even though basically the same.
The bells could be specced to match whatever disc manufacturer (AP, Wilwood, HiSpec, Brembo etc) you want. Different manufacturers generally use different rotor mounting PCD's and bolt numbers but this is the only part of the bell that would be unique from any other Monaro bell.

If you want AP rotors, or any other specific type, you just need to know the mounting bolt quantity and PCD for that particular rotor (which is easy to get hold of) and the bells can be made to fit that manufacturer specifically.

As mentioned also, AP's can be VERY expensive depending on size and (to me at least, having had them on the GTS) are overkill unless you are a heavy track user. They have a high iron content which means they wear a little quicker and are a sod to look after with daily road use.
The quality and reputation of the HiSpec gear seems to be of a high standard, I've heard of issues with wilwood rotors and cracking. Obviously Brembo have a good rep.

In answer to another question, yes, these will fit a GTS, they use the same hub dimensions as a Monaro, just a different rotor size. In fact the kit I'm trying to put together for myself is for my Harrop GTS brakes.

Hope that helps

slippery

14,093 posts

240 months

Thursday 23rd June 2011
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I'm interested in finding out more for the VXR8. I think the pads and discs are some of the most costly elements of running the car. Tell us more when you know Woody. thumbup

stevieturbo

17,270 posts

248 months

Thursday 23rd June 2011
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On actual disc type. It's also worth mentioning they can be made from different materials. And often for road use, stuff like the AP racing discs arent really ideal. They rust a damn sight easier than some discs too.

Woody VT

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1,890 posts

217 months

Thursday 23rd June 2011
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stevieturbo said:
On actual disc type. It's also worth mentioning they can be made from different materials. And often for road use, stuff like the AP racing discs arent really ideal. They rust a damn sight easier than some discs too.
Sorry, that's part of what I meant by being a sod to look after.

woody vt

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1,890 posts

217 months

Friday 24th June 2011
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Well HiSpec have come back with quite a high price for bells at £145+VAT each.
I'm looking elsewhere for quotes and will keep you posted.

Incidently, for the VXR Monaro owners, AP 332mm rotors came in at around £300 including VAT so if I can get a decent price on bells are definitely a good option, if the car is a "keeper"

Monaro5.7

7,333 posts

180 months

Monday 27th June 2011
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