RE: New Ginetta G60 Road Car Revealed

RE: New Ginetta G60 Road Car Revealed

Wednesday 5th October 2011

New Ginetta G60 Road Car Revealed

1080kgs, 310bhp, and no 'nanny-ish' driver aids...



Here it is folks, 1080kgs and 310bhp of pure driving pleasure, courtesy of Ginetta in the shape of its all-new G60.

Well that's the theory, and judging by our briefest of spells behind the wheel of Ginetta's prototype a couple of months back, we reckon they're onto something. The final production version pictured here is being launched at Silverstone next week.

Ginetta plans to build fifty G60s annually 'for global distribution' priced at £68,000, so don't expect to see many out and about. Students of automotive history will also recognise the car's origins - it started life a decade ago as the Farboud/Farbio GTS, before Ginetta's owner Lawrence Tomlinson bought the project in 2010 and renamed it the F400. Then he took it back to the drawing board...


Ginetta has shared a list of all the changes they've made below, but basically the car has been rebuilt from the ground up leaving only the bodywork (largely) unchanged.

Sharing an engine with Ginetta's GT3 racer - it's a revamped Ford Cyclone V6 - coupled to a six speed manual gearbox, the new G60 roadster is said to be good for 165mph and a 0 to 60mph time of 4.9secs.

That's quick by anyone's standards, but out-and-out performance isn't really the point of the G60 which has been developed entirely round the promise of a 'pure' type of driving pleasure unadulterated by nanny-ish add-ons. So gone are the servo brakes, power assisted steering, ABS and traction control.

In fact, Ginetta claims to have entirely 'deconstructed' the F400 keeping only the exterior shape, whilst making minor improvements to aerodynamics by adding carbon fibre cooling vents and a revised splitter.


Underneath, the carbon fibre shell is bonded to a new stiffer tubular steel chassis, while the suspension has been re-designed incorporating unassisted rack and pinion steering and aluminium billet uprights for stiffness and improved handing.

There are new larger grooved and drilled disks with Alcon 4 pot brake callipers all round, the ECU and wiring harness is bespoke for improved reliability, and the driver's seat position has been re-evaluated. The pedals have been realigned and even the accelerator pedal grooves have been changed from a horizontal to a vertical plane for smoother throttle operation.

Over the last six years Lawrence Tomlinson has taken the Ginetta marque from what the company itself calls 'a nostalgic relic of the 60s - 70s', and turned it into a genuine force in British motorsport. With the new Ginetta G40R road car already receiving positive reviews, it will be fascinating to see how the G60 moves the marque forward.

G60 SPEC:
Engine – 3.7 litre Ford Cyclone V6
Location – Mid-rear transverse

CO2 - TBC
Power – 310bhp @ 6500rpm
Torque – 288ft/lb @ 4500rpm
Transmission– 6 speed gearbox coupled to an Automatic Torque Biasing (ATB) differential

Front / Rear Suspension – Double Wishbones with coil springs
Front Brakes– 4 pot callipers, 356mm x 32mm discs
Rear Brakes– 4 pot callipers, 355mm x 28mm discs
Wheels – 19’’ Alloy Wheels
Tyres – Michelin Pilot Sport 3. Front – 235/35/ZR19, Rear – 285/35ZR19

Weight (kerb)– 1080kg
Power-to-weight – 305.6bhp/tonne
0-60 – 4.9s
Top speed – 165mph

Front Track width - 1870mm
Rear Track width -1885mm
Front overhang- 815mm
Rear overhang- 790mm

Economy – 31mpg (average)
Controls - Satellite navigation, Bluetooth, audio and climate controls via centrally mounted 7” touchscreen.

Basic price– £68000
Available – First customer deliveries expected Feb 2012


G60 parts differentiating from the F400
3.7 litre engine
ATB differential
Fly-by-wire throttle
Full new wiring loom
ECU
Pedal box
Chassis
Interior modifications
New Carbon Fibre Air intake
Revised cooling vents
Air conditioning
Full Braking system (including master cylinders, callipers, discs, brake pads and handbrake)Steering column
Steering rack
Uprights
Wishbones
Touch screen instrument system
Front and rear lights
Dashboard
Clutch
Revised cooling system
Removal of power steering
Electrical window mechanism

Author
Discussion

V8 GRF

Original Poster:

7,294 posts

210 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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Great car at a good price, I drove the prototype back in July when I interviewed Lawrence for Sprint and it was very inmpressive.
Just a pity Lawrence didn't get hold of TVR or this would be the announcement of a new TVR. frown

tozerman

1,175 posts

227 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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I want one of these so bad it actually hurts !

StottyZr

6,860 posts

163 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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It looks fantastic but looking at the price I ask myself, would I buy this over a Nissan GTR? scratchchin

jazzyjeff

3,652 posts

259 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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StottyZr said:
It looks fantastic but looking at the price I ask myself, would I buy this over a Nissan GTR? scratchchin
If you're even trying to compare the two surely you've answered your own question? The driving experience will surely be entirely different?

chuntington101

5,733 posts

236 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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Stunning car. Really hope this opens a neew market for the company (maybe where the Noble M12 left???). I cant wait to see the GT3 version! smile

Chris.

SlimRick

2,258 posts

165 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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Does anybody want to buy a kidney?

Cooper500

40 posts

173 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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I'm surprised at the warm reception. I think Ginetta are going to struggle massively to convince clients to part with £68,000+. Can't see this taking off and selling in great numbers at all, far too expensive for the brand. Not a brilliant design either, don't like their additions to the original.

I'll take the Exige V6.

Mannginger

9,065 posts

257 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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Another great car from Ginetta and again they've got the concept and pricing right from my point of view (Not that I can afford it!). I prefer the approach they've take than that of the GTR mentioned above and that's why I'd go for it over the GTR - they're very different cars.

kingstondc5

7,457 posts

204 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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Lovely looking car but its always going to be compared to a used 911 GT3 (in either guise)

p1doc

3,120 posts

184 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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looks good but pricey and removal of nanny tech will limit customer base surely?
martin

jp-speed-triple

1,504 posts

187 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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these guys just keep getting better and better.

All power to Tomlinson's Elbow if you ask me.

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king arthur

6,566 posts

261 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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Is there enough profit for them in those numbers? You'd think they'd be hoping to sell a few more than 50 a year after buying the project out and doing all that work on it.

k-ink

9,070 posts

179 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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I prefer my engines up front so would opt for it's baby brother. However this is a very fine looking car!

Old Nick

48 posts

249 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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I love it, just a bit taken aback by the price. I might buy one otherwise, but just can't afford it. That there are many different ways to spend £68k doesn't come into it unfortunately. Are there many others on the same boat? Maybe that's why the global target is 50 units per year... seems like a missed opportunity

harryowl

1,114 posts

181 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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I hate to say it, but the Exige v6 is cheaper, more powerful, and just as focused...

Lawrence5

1,253 posts

235 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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harryowl said:
I hate to say it, but the Exige v6 is cheaper, more powerful, and just as focused...
My thoughts exactly.....carbon is a bit of a false economy if it isn't making it "much" lighter. GRP is a tenth of the price frown

Schnellmann

1,893 posts

204 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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Cooper500 said:
I'm surprised at the warm reception. I think Ginetta are going to struggle massively to convince clients to part with £68,000+. Can't see this taking off and selling in great numbers at all, far too expensive for the brand. Not a brilliant design either, don't like their additions to the original.

I'll take the Exige V6.
They are only planning to sell 50 so obviously not planning to sell it in large numbers.

On paper this sounds brilliant. I think the changes are just right too: making it lighter and without driving aids means it doesn't compete directly with Porsche et al, which is good.

I wish I were in the market for a two-seater (really need 4 because of my daughter) otherwise I'd be really interested. Of course, other problem is that I am in Switzerland and I doubt Ginetta are selling to that market.

V88Dicky

7,305 posts

183 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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I can't help thinking that it reminds me of another niche British sportscar.

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Not that this is a bad thing though! biggrin

angusfaldo

2,790 posts

274 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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I also like it, a lot. But I wish Ginetta would do something with their badges. The font they use for the badge reminds me of a low budget 70s metal band's album cover and adds cheapness, imho..

garycat

4,400 posts

210 months

Wednesday 5th October 2011
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Nice... but I think I'd take an Evora instead.