Mini Cooper.....gearbox problems.....best route to fix?

Mini Cooper.....gearbox problems.....best route to fix?

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turboman786

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1,064 posts

187 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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My wife has an 02 reg Mini cooper, which has FBMSH and is pretty mint despite having done 90k miles....

The gearbox is making a grinding noise which I assume is the 'box telling me it is knackered....

I understand that this is a common problem on the early Minis and am wiondering how best to fix it

The car is only worth say £2.5k so I am looking at a cost effective solution as other than the 'box problem it is a really nice little car

Can anyone guide me how to fix this as cheaply as poss...am I better fitting a new gearbox or recon the old one, or do I try and repair the existing one etc?

RKDE

569 posts

210 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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you can get them repaired quite cheaply if you do it yourself but parts are difficult to get, there are a few people out there re-con the box. The best bet is often to change the box but they will all be getting to the same age as yours, many people change the box, shafts, clutch, slave to either the facelift getrag or they change a few extra parts and fit the S box and shifter. It is a big job though to change the box and quite tight. Be worth contacting a mini specialist for a quick turn around or for parts / advice on a conversion

The getrag box has not been known to fail where as the midland box just fails

MX-5 Lazza

7,952 posts

219 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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My 03 Cooper has just had a recon gearbox fitted. Mine was due to the gearchange, especially into reverse being knackered. I didn't have to pay for it as it was a warranty job but the price of the 'box was something like £1250 and with fitting around £1900! You might be better off buying a scrap car and stripping it yourself if your car really is only worth about £2500. That is unless someone else can tell you an easy way to fix yours...

blueST

4,392 posts

216 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Can someone shed a bit more light on this problem? I' m going to look at a '05 and an '06 Mini One for my Wife tomorrow. What exactly is problem, how can I spot it, any way to stop it happening?

DanGT

753 posts

226 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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New min mag did a story on this. The bearings are not to good and if the box is used and abused thay can cause problems. There are a number of people doing drive in drive out for about £500. This include a worranty. If your handy you could get a box from a mini scrap yard. They normly will give a short worranty 3months?

Do check that it is not just the clutch etc.

blueST

4,392 posts

216 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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A touch worrying as the reason we are swapping is that I've just put a used gearbox in my Wife's Polo and I don't want to do it again in a hurry! She ain't the smoothest when it comes to shifting either.

RKDE

569 posts

210 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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this is only applicable to petrol one and cooper before 2004 anything after will be fine as is the diesel and the S

MX-5 Lazza

7,952 posts

219 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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On a related note... Can the 04+ box be fitted to earlier cars? Would there be any problem with fitting the 6-speed?

GarryA

4,700 posts

164 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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The Midland box is made of chocolate, I would definitely be looking to fit the Getrag 6spd.

hyperblue

2,800 posts

180 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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MX-5 Lazza said:
On a related note... Can the 04+ box be fitted to earlier cars? Would there be any problem with fitting the 6-speed?
Nope no problem. I've driven a Cooper fitted with a 6 speed and its great fun too hehe

MX-5 Lazza

7,952 posts

219 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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hyperblue said:
MX-5 Lazza said:
On a related note... Can the 04+ box be fitted to earlier cars? Would there be any problem with fitting the 6-speed?
Nope no problem. I've driven a Cooper fitted with a 6 speed and its great fun too hehe
That's something I might think about in the future then as I have a 6-speed in the MX5 and I keep trying to put the Cooper in 6th whistle

BigShow

85 posts

211 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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If you're keeping the car long term swapping to the Cooper S 6 speed is the best option. Coastal Racing do these conversions all the time and at a decent price.

Adz182

1 posts

86 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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I need some help. My mum has a mini one and it needs new gearbox as it's clicking like made and leaking oil. I have been told I can fit a 6 speed to it? Is this right?

Monkeyboy889

2 posts

66 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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Monkeyboy889

2 posts

66 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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R53rider

183 posts

88 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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blueST said:
Can someone shed a bit more light on this problem? I' m going to look at a '05 and an '06 Mini One for my Wife tomorrow. What exactly is problem, how can I spot it, any way to stop it happening?
You'll be fine with a late car, 2005 or 2006. It will have the 5 speed Getrag. Pretty much bullet proof. The one's that fail are the 5 speed Midland boxes fitted to earlier cars. 'Midland' as in Rover, their factory their. Cooper Ss (R53s) have always had the Getrag but the 6 speed version. Very rare for them to fail.

R53rider

183 posts

88 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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If any of you need exchange boxes (specically as you have a failed Midland 5 speed), this guy specialises in them. Name is a giveaway - MINI Gearboxes. He is in Lees, Oldham. Called Shaun. So if you are in the part of the country he fits a well.
Midland 5 speed is £350 exchange. Fitting additional, by him or yourself or whoever you use.
http://minigearbox.co.uk/

R53rider

183 posts

88 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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MX-5 Lazza said:
On a related note... Can the 04+ box be fitted to earlier cars? Would there be any problem with fitting the 6-speed?
You can. But it is a bit of a mission. Loads of things need changing, including for example the driveshafts.