Planet X calipers

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Markp13

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422 posts

160 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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Over the winter I ordered Planet X CNC lightweight brake calipers as a supposed upgrade to my shimano 105 setup. Well that wasn't half a mistake!!

The setting up of the things is a nightmare. I tried (professional
Electrical Engineer) then my training partner tried (professional Gas engineer, who recently built a Cervelo from scratch) and we both struggled to get them centred.

In the last week I've done 150 miles
with them, my first rides of the year and the stopping power is terrible. I mean so bad that you'd struggle to lock the back wheel if you chose to.

So, admitting defeat, I took it to my LBS, where the owner looks after some pretty high end TT stuff. Even he said they were a nightmare but he'd done the best he could. He recommends throwing them in the bin and putting my 105 stuff back on. His words were threre's not enough modulation with them.

Has anyone else had these issues with Planet X calipers? I'm half way decided to send them back but I'd be 100 bucks down.

Fourmotion

1,026 posts

220 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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You mean these?:
ultra light CNC

I have them on my Planet-X and I think they're fantastic. I could probably lock the front wheel, so the power is certainly there. I'm 90kgs for reference. Centering is not the best, but there is a small allen key screw for fine tuning.




Markp13

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422 posts

160 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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Yes that's the ones. The centreing as you say was a real pain and theyre almost there now but they just don't seem to have much "power".

They almost feel unsafe.

Maybe I'm used to the bite the 105 gave me but I suppose this week will tell.

At the minute in just not very impressed

Uriel

3,244 posts

251 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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I have those too and reckon they're unbeatable for the money.

Yeah, they take a little more setting up than a regular dual pivot set up, but we're talking 5 minutes from taking the caliper out of the packet to having it up and running (assuming the cables are already to size and on the frame). Every 3 or 4 rides I may just tweak the caliper to recentre it, but that's literally a 15 second per caliper job with an 18mm spanner.

As for the braking, they're not the very best I've used (DA7900), but about 95% of the way there. You'd really have to be concentrating on the braking performance to notice a difference (I've only compared the stock DA pads with Swissstop Greens in the PX calipers).

The only drawback I've found with them is that it's a pain in the arse to do up the little grub screw that holds the barrel that sits under the arm that actuates the caliper. It's easy to do up quite tight, but being as that's the only screw holding the cable in place, I want it damn tight and because the design has it as a free floating element and it's a pretty small allan key required, it's not as easy as doing up a regular cable clamp.

itsnotarace

4,685 posts

209 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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Markp13 said:
His words were threre's not enough modulation with them.
This is because the cable pull ratio for the newer Shimano's is different so they won't be as effective. It's not dangerous but you will definitely have to pull the brake lever closer to the bar to get the equivalent braking force.

For info the only brake calipers that have the correct cable pull ratio for Shimano DA7900, Ultegra 6700 and 105 5700 is the hideously expensive TRP 979 SL http://www.trpbrakes.com/category.php?productid=11... or the 979 EQ http://www.trpbrakes.com/category.php?productid=11...

andrewturner

324 posts

215 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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I've got a set of these on my pinarello, they are a pain to set up and the braking is pretty poor (probably the pads) but they look so good!

On my Tarmac it has 105 and it's night and day in terms of stopping power.

Annoying but I'll live with it.

Markp13

Original Poster:

422 posts

160 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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andrewturner said:
I've got a set of these on my pinarello, they are a pain to set up and the braking is pretty poor (probably the pads) but they look so good!

On my Tarmac it has 105 and it's night and day in terms of stopping power.

Annoying but I'll live with it.
I thought it might be the pads too, so I asked but he was certain it was the modulation.

They do look good in there anodised colours but they just take so much more effort for the same/or near performance as the 105's.


LRdriver II

1,936 posts

249 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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depends on how close you run them to the rim aswell.. are they like the ZeroG lightweight calipers? they seem to give best power when they are run further from the rims. Something to do with lever ratios and caliper design ( progressively powerful)

HundredthIdiot

4,414 posts

284 months

Wednesday 28th March 2012
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I use PX brakes with SRAM levers and find them absolutely fine. I have SRAM Red brakes on another bike and I don't notice a difference going from one to the other.

Centering is easy enough once you've worked it out.

The only real flaw is the lack of quick release lever, but I don't use them on my race bike where that would be an issue.

Markp13

Original Poster:

422 posts

160 months

Friday 30th March 2012
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Anyone want planet x calipers for 50 bucks before I bin them?

Bacon Is Proof

5,740 posts

231 months

Friday 30th March 2012
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I'll empty your bin for free. smile

Markp13

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422 posts

160 months

Friday 30th March 2012
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Bacon Is Proof said:
I'll empty your bin for free. smile
Ideal, thanks, there's an entrance fee of 59 quid tho.

Uriel

3,244 posts

251 months

Friday 30th March 2012
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What colour? Could be tempted for the training bike...

Markp13

Original Poster:

422 posts

160 months

Friday 30th March 2012
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Uriel said:
What colour? Could be tempted for the training bike...
Black with the red anodised catch.

S6PNJ

5,182 posts

281 months

Saturday 31st March 2012
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Mark, if they are still up for grabs, I'd like them for 50 bucks please! Please PM me if they are still available and you want to go ahead.