keeping hold of a number plate when part exchanging a car

keeping hold of a number plate when part exchanging a car

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ehyouwhat

Original Poster:

4,606 posts

191 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Hi all,

I'm picking up a car this weekend from a trader quite far away from me, and I'll be driving there in the car that I am part-exchanging. My current car has a personalised number plate on it that I would like to retain and place on the new car. However, the dealer in this instance has told me he will not transfer the plate for me.

What is the easiest way of completing the transfer? I know I will have to drive the new car back home on its own current registration and then assign my plate later, but how do I apply to keep the registration of my current car even though I am tranferring the car ownership directly to the trader?

I'm aware that there is a fee involved (£80ish?) and I am presuming the request can somehow be done on the V5 form?

Sorry for my ignorance on the mattter...many thanks in advance.

Regards,
EYW

mercfunder

8,535 posts

146 months

Sir Bagalot

5,885 posts

154 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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And you won't be picking it up this Saturday unless you want to risk losing the plate.

matc

4,704 posts

180 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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You've left it pretty late to sort it out if you're p/x'ing it this weekend! The dealer may not take your car off you without the V5 which you won't get back for a couple of weeks after you've sent the paperwork off to the DVLA.

The quickest way of doing it is to put it onto retention - it costs slightly more (£105) but you'll recieve the V5 a fair bit quicker than if you did a transfer.

Either way it depends on how flexible the dealer is as to wether you're going to have to delay picking your new car up.

S2AVANT

217 posts

195 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Sir Bagalot said:
And you won't be picking it up this Saturday unless you want to risk losing the plate.
/\ This, if the DVLA want to inspect prior to changing plates (they sometimes do) and the dealer has stated he won't assist, you will lose the plate. If the car has a new owner assigned by the DVLA before the transfer is complete, they cancel the transfer. I know from experience.

ehyouwhat

Original Poster:

4,606 posts

191 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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I'm now wondering if I can talk round the trader into completing the transfer for me, subject to me paying the necessary fee.

I was under the impression that a portion of the V5 form (for my current car) could be completed, that would place my existing number plate on retention (which would be sent to me as a document). I would then be able to send this document, along with the new V5 form for the new car (once it arrives) to transfer the plate onto the new car. Is this still possible (at the risk of losing the plate). I'm working on the assumption that the trader is reputable.

As for leaving it late, I only spotted the car yesterday and I'm away for a month straight afterwards...this is a bit of an impulse purchase.

mercfunder

8,535 posts

146 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Problem is if you sign the V5 and transfer the registered keeper to the dealer, he will also get the rights to the plate.
Is there a DVLA office near you? if so nip down and get the plate put on retention, that way you can do all the paperwork for the dealer and just put your plate on your car when you want.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/dvla/contactus/localoffices/...

TheCanonBall

26 posts

119 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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I did this recently, but was a bit more organised as I initially tried to sell my car private.

I'd be tempted to tell the trader he's going to have to wait to do the deal. My plate took about 2 weeks to go on retention. I did it in my local DVLA office, don't know if that made it any quicker.

If he's not willing to be flexible then fk him off!

redgriff500

23,110 posts

236 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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As stated the plate is sold with the car.

Unless you transfer it before, really you're stuffed.

Having said that I bought a car with a plate on last weekend, I simply left the owner with the V5.

I have the car, keys and receipt - V5 isn't proof of ownership.

Seemed a decent compromise BUT I'm not trying to sell the car on - which your dealer will be.

lawrence567

7,507 posts

163 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Currently putting my plate on retention as i want to sell my car... i filled the relevant forms out, sent them to my local DVLA office, recorded next day delivery, they received it before 8am the next morning, i'm now awaiting the return of the V5 so i can PX / sell my car privately, may as well wait for the V5 as nobody will buy a car without one! Even though i have photocopies of all the info you need to send away!
IF i was you OP i'd just tell the trader you can't pick the motor up, if you've paid a decent deposit and everything is in writing i can't see what the issue is really.

simoid

19,762 posts

131 months

Tuesday 7th January 2014
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Bumpity bump.

My mate is picking up a new (to him) car this week. We're sitting here with a V317 form, and at the bottom it says "I declare that I am, or am about to become, the registered keeper of this vehicle".

Slightly confused about the process as it seems to want a V62 form (application for vehicle registration certificate, which doesn't mention anything about plate transfers on it).

Does he go to the dealers, fill out the plate transfer forms with new keepers, fill out a couple of V62s, send all away with the "new keeper" part of V5 for both cars, and enclose a cheque for £80 for the DVLA's trouble?

Stop me when I started talking ste hehe




ETA: the dealer doesn't appear to have a clue, but suggests putting the plate on retention, which seems silly to me as it's the same form to retain or transfer, and my mate wants the plate on ASAP (and as easily as possible!)

Edited by simoid on Tuesday 7th January 14:11

joewilliams

2,004 posts

174 months

Tuesday 7th January 2014
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Unless both cars are in your name, the simplest method is to put your plate on retention in enough time to get age-related plates back on your old car, then transfer it to your new car once you get the V5 in your name.

For the sake of a few weeks driving around on boring plates, just keep it simple.

simoid

19,762 posts

131 months

Tuesday 7th January 2014
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joewilliams said:
Unless both cars are in your name, the simplest method is to put your plate on retention in enough time to get age-related plates back on your old car, then transfer it to your new car once you get the V5 in your name.

For the sake of a few weeks driving around on boring plates, just keep it simple.
Thanks for the reply smile

Car is being collected to soon for that process. Spur of the moment bd that he is!

It also seems to be £25 more expensive to retain rather than transfer, and he's also a tight bd wink

We both (naively?) thought this would be a case of signing a transfer form when all the V5 stuff gets done at the dealers. Is that too simplistic?

Toaster Pilot

13,940 posts

131 months

Tuesday 7th January 2014
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Once traded a car into a main dealer who handled the transfer for me - thought it strange I didn't need to fill out any paperwork.

Turns out they registered the P/X car to themselves but still in my name (Toaster Pilot C/O Dodgy Motor Group) and then put everything through, seemed a bit odd to me.

markmullen

15,877 posts

207 months

Tuesday 7th January 2014
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Toaster Pilot said:
Once traded a car into a main dealer who handled the transfer for me - thought it strange I didn't need to fill out any paperwork.

Turns out they registered the P/X car to themselves but still in my name (Toaster Pilot C/O Dodgy Motor Group) and then put everything through, seemed a bit odd to me.
Why is it odd? It just stops the new logbook for the PX going back to the previous owner, who then forgets to drop it back into the dealer, or bins it, meaning the dealer can't easily transfer the PX to a new buyer of the PX.

Toaster Pilot

13,940 posts

131 months

Tuesday 7th January 2014
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Would've been nice to be informed about it, I had to call the DVLA about something relating to the car and they had no idea who I was despite my name still being the registered keeper of the vehicle.

Fair point about the logbook mind.

simoid

19,762 posts

131 months

Tuesday 7th January 2014
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I can't see any advantage for the dealer of getting the plate onto retention rather than transferring, as they'll still have to wait for the new logbook for the PX with new reg anyway...?

POORCARDEALER

8,430 posts

214 months

Tuesday 7th January 2014
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plenty of garages refuse to get involved in plate transfers, so check first

simoid

19,762 posts

131 months

Tuesday 7th January 2014
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POORCARDEALER said:
plenty of garages refuse to get involved in plate transfers, so check first
Yeah they've offered to put it on retention for him, but that seems to be more hassle than necessary to me.

I'm basically just wondering if it's possible to transfer plate with ownership.

mercer868

50 posts

89 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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When you pay the £80 do they send the retention letter to your new address? Do you need to send the DVLA your logbook to put on orginal plate of car?

I have just moved house so hoping I can do both at the same time.But if they send the rentention letter to my old place straight away then I am buggered.