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cv01jw

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1,137 posts

215 months

Friday 3rd August 2012
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I have fallen victim to a scam, mainly through my own stupidity in not spotting it earlier.

Someone posted an electric guitar on my local freecycle board and I responded to it. I was chuffed to be the first person to respond, but was then advised that the guitar was in Shropshire and that it had been inadvertently posted on the wrong freecycle board. This is the point at which I should have thought something was up, but in my head I was thinking about becoming the next Jimi Hendrix so I ploughed on.

In the end, I sent a £12 postal order to cover postage of the guitar to me. Surprise surprise no guitar turned up and the email address and freecycle account have disappeared too.

I do however have the address I was asked to send the Postal Order to. I have searched online for further details but am drawing a blank, and it is too far for me to go for the sake of £12. The money isn't the issue here, I am just bloody annoyed someone did this to me and is potentially doing it to a lot of other people too.

Freecycle have been made aware but can't do much.

Does anyone here know any other legitimate ways of finding more contact details / information about someone? I have looked on 192.com and paid for their basic search and nothing comes up.

OlberJ

14,101 posts

253 months

Friday 3rd August 2012
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I'll find out their details for an altogether reasonable £15.

ZOLLAR

19,914 posts

193 months

Friday 3rd August 2012
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What's the address?

cv01jw

Original Poster:

1,137 posts

215 months

Friday 3rd August 2012
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OlberJ said:
I'll find out their details for an altogether reasonable £15.
Would you like a Postal Order for that smile

cv01jw

Original Poster:

1,137 posts

215 months

Friday 3rd August 2012
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ZOLLAR said:
What's the address?
Simon Knight
52 Pauls Moss
Whitchurch
Shropshire
SY13 1HN


McHaggis

56,782 posts

175 months

Friday 3rd August 2012
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Silent1 is a bit of a super sleuth...

cv01jw

Original Poster:

1,137 posts

215 months

Friday 3rd August 2012
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McHaggis said:
Silent1 is a bit of a super sleuth...
Some of the sleuthing on here has scared me in the past, hence my post smile

Dogwatch

6,352 posts

242 months

Friday 3rd August 2012
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Your £12 is probably a write-off but could your local trading standards contact their counterparts (or contact the local TS yourself)?

To the individual it's a nuisance loss and barely worth reporting but if the perpetrator is doing this regularly the figures start to mount up.

cv01jw

Original Poster:

1,137 posts

215 months

Friday 3rd August 2012
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Dogwatch said:
Your £12 is probably a write-off but could your local trading standards contact their counterparts (or contact the local TS yourself)?

To the individual it's a nuisance loss and barely worth reporting but if the perpetrator is doing this regularly the figures start to mount up.
After looking around the net, I reported it via the Polics's ActionFraud website - I assume this will inform trading standards too.

As you say, to me the effect is minimal but he could be doing this to lots of people a day.

davepoth

29,395 posts

219 months

Friday 3rd August 2012
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It's sheltered housing.

http://www.housingcare.org/housing-care/facility-i...

A quick google suggests that if Simon Knight works at Equity Housing and is utilising an empty flat to run a mail scam, his email address would be simonk@equityhousing.co.uk if you want to try contacting him.



Edited by davepoth on Friday 3rd August 12:23


Edited by davepoth on Friday 3rd August 12:24

cv01jw

Original Poster:

1,137 posts

215 months

Friday 3rd August 2012
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There is no No.52 but there is a Flat 52 Paul's Moss.

Have contacted the company who maintain the estate and they understandably won't pass on any details due to Data Protection.

Steffan

10,362 posts

248 months

Friday 3rd August 2012
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I was not aware of freecycle until I read your post.

Looking at it it would seem to require all offers to be cost free. If that is the case would someone looking for payment not ring alarm bells? Postage perhaps?

I consistently suggest never, ever, under any circumstances, sending cash or PO to anywhere for anything, never use Western Union or other such maladies and always pay with Paypal or a credit card. If the seller will not accept this walk away.

Boring it may be, but I think essentially sound commercial advice.

I do hope you get your money back. The PH sleuths are pretty sharp. The miscreant wants stopping before he rips off a pensioner or two, who cannot afford the loss. Scabby Pillock that he is!

cv01jw

Original Poster:

1,137 posts

215 months

Friday 3rd August 2012
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Steffan said:
I was not aware of freecycle until I read your post.

Looking at it it would seem to require all offers to be cost free. If that is the case would someone looking for payment not ring alarm bells? Postage perhaps?

I consistently suggest never, ever, under any circumstances, sending cash or PO to anywhere for anything, never use Western Union or other such maladies and always pay with Paypal or a credit card. If the seller will not accept this walk away.

Boring it may be, but I think essentially sound commercial advice.

I do hope you get your money back. The PH sleuths are pretty sharp. The miscreant wants stopping before he rips off a pensioner or two, who cannot afford the loss. Scabby Pillock that he is!
The idea of Freecycle being free is correct, no charging is allowed. However, I fell for the story that he posted on the wrong board by mistake and as I wanted the guitar I accepted the offer of paying postage rather than driving hundreds of miles to collect it.

Sgt Bilko

1,929 posts

235 months

Friday 3rd August 2012
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There's a Clare Knight who lives at SY13 (25-29 y/o). Other persons resident include a A Hayden and IE Ashley. Kids?

davepoth

29,395 posts

219 months

Friday 3rd August 2012
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http://groups.freecycle.org/ChesterCityWest/admin/...

Here's another freecycle post about Paul's Moss, looks to be a fairly big scam. My guess is that whoever is running the scam is getting mail sent to the addresses of frailer people who live in the sheltered housing under false names so they know which ones are for them.

afrochicken

1,166 posts

229 months

Friday 3rd August 2012
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Someone who sells lots of stuff on these boards who at least claims to live/have lived at that address has the numbers 07938 528309 and 01948 861351. The name is different, but that's to be expected in a scam. Worth looking into.

Crusoe

4,114 posts

251 months

Friday 3rd August 2012
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looks like another item from the same person, maybe you could bait him out of hiding with this one?
http://www.adpost.com/uk/audio_video_electronics/2...

egor110

17,612 posts

223 months

Friday 3rd August 2012
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Crusoe said:
looks like another item from the same person, maybe you could bait him out of hiding with this one?
http://www.adpost.com/uk/audio_video_electronics/2...
It says buyer collect so atleast you could confront him by buying the fruit machine.

Or underpay by £12 and when he asks why tell him/her

davepoth

29,395 posts

219 months

Friday 3rd August 2012
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A bit more rummaging reveals a different address and email address...

http://www.freeads-chester.co.uk/home-garden/furni...

Crusoe

4,114 posts

251 months

Friday 3rd August 2012
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link back the registration from december 2011 of his red vauxhall astra GP02 HKG
http://www.usedcar.co.uk/sales/5378-red-vauxhall-a...