CPI Sprint / chinese copy bikes - anyone got/used?
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Hi chaps, just got the go ahead from the bank manager (aka swmbo) to go ahead and get a cbt done, and so while I find a decent looking place to do that in / around York I've been looking at potential future buys.
I've got a couple of 'bikey' mates who've recommended I go for an older Honda cg125 or similar to start with, and while I can't fault their logic, for the price for an alright looking one its not that far away from a new or nearly new clone, like the hyosungs and something I stumbled across last night, a CPI sprint. which (to me) looks brilliant.
I like the older style bikes, and will probably end up with an old Enfield or BSA bantam or similar.
So the question is, really, are the Chinese copy bikes any good? and if so, would they make an ok first bike?
Failing that, any suggestions? I'm 6'6" tall and built like the proverbial brick outhouse, 20 stone (or thereabouts).
Cheers in advance.
Tink.
(sorry for the previous topic, posted from my mobile and the title didnt appear!
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I've got a couple of 'bikey' mates who've recommended I go for an older Honda cg125 or similar to start with, and while I can't fault their logic, for the price for an alright looking one its not that far away from a new or nearly new clone, like the hyosungs and something I stumbled across last night, a CPI sprint. which (to me) looks brilliant.
I like the older style bikes, and will probably end up with an old Enfield or BSA bantam or similar.
So the question is, really, are the Chinese copy bikes any good? and if so, would they make an ok first bike?
Failing that, any suggestions? I'm 6'6" tall and built like the proverbial brick outhouse, 20 stone (or thereabouts).
Cheers in advance.
Tink.
(sorry for the previous topic, posted from my mobile and the title didnt appear!
)sprinter1050 said:
6ft 6 & like a brick s...house ??
I wouldn't even consider (almost) any 125..
Plus 1.I wouldn't even consider (almost) any 125..
Do DAS at first opportunity, skip the 125 if possible.
The very fastest 125s top out at 80-90 when learner legal, with someone far smaller, and far shorter onboard. If you want a four stroke, you'll be lucky to get 60-65 out of the fast ones...
Most of the chinese ones top out at 60 ish, with aforementioned small person on.
Have a look at this thread for the recent discussion on this topic.
Chinese bikes are very variable in quality, and none as as good as the Jap bikes (yet). Some are junk.
An older Jap bike will continue to fetch good money if you keep it tidy, the Chinese bike will be almost worthless after a few years so for that reason alone the sensible money buys the Jap bike.
Chinese bikes are very variable in quality, and none as as good as the Jap bikes (yet). Some are junk.
An older Jap bike will continue to fetch good money if you keep it tidy, the Chinese bike will be almost worthless after a few years so for that reason alone the sensible money buys the Jap bike.
Can I also add.....
Can you please stop buying Chinese sh!t. The more you buy, the more you will encourage them.
It wouldn't be so bad if they actually did some design and R&D on the products they sell, but everything they churn out is a rip off of other peoples stuff. This goes for everything from furniture, golf clubs through to bikes
Makes my piss boil. If they want to manufacture crap, let them have it for their home market
Can you please stop buying Chinese sh!t. The more you buy, the more you will encourage them.
It wouldn't be so bad if they actually did some design and R&D on the products they sell, but everything they churn out is a rip off of other peoples stuff. This goes for everything from furniture, golf clubs through to bikes
Makes my piss boil. If they want to manufacture crap, let them have it for their home market
Mr2Mike said:
CBR JGWRR said:
The very fastest 125s top out at 80-90 when learner legal,
Sorry but that is simply wishful thinking. Nothing with 14.6bhp is going to top out at a genuine 80-90mph unless it's down the side of a mountain.I had to restrict the RS 125 to 80, although that had been partially derestricted before.
80 is certainly possible, at least 1 four stroke has achieved that under test conditions in a recent MCN. Under perfect conditions though...
Fleegle said:
Can I also add.....
Can you please stop buying Chinese sh!t. The more you buy, the more you will encourage them.
It wouldn't be so bad if they actually did some design and R&D on the products they sell, but everything they churn out is a rip off of other peoples stuff. This goes for everything from furniture, golf clubs through to bikes AND BEDS
Makes my piss boil. If they want to manufacture crap, let them have it for their home market
Anybody on here who bought a Chinese sofa/3 piece suite that was over-dosed in flame retardant will understand.Can you please stop buying Chinese sh!t. The more you buy, the more you will encourage them.
It wouldn't be so bad if they actually did some design and R&D on the products they sell, but everything they churn out is a rip off of other peoples stuff. This goes for everything from furniture, golf clubs through to bikes AND BEDS
Makes my piss boil. If they want to manufacture crap, let them have it for their home market
I was half expecting both those replies, to be honest (them being crap and do a DAS).
My issue is that i can just about afford to do the CBT and get a cheap bike in parrallel with driving/owning a car, however i can't afford to do a DAS unless i sell my car, which would leave me up the creek if i decide its not for me for whatever reason.
My current commute to work is 3 miles each way, down A roads, would a 125 really be that awful for roughly 15 minutes each way? I've a strong suspicion i'll like it, and end up doing my DAS soon enough, but on the off chance i'm wrong i dont want to risk it.
My issue is that i can just about afford to do the CBT and get a cheap bike in parrallel with driving/owning a car, however i can't afford to do a DAS unless i sell my car, which would leave me up the creek if i decide its not for me for whatever reason.
My current commute to work is 3 miles each way, down A roads, would a 125 really be that awful for roughly 15 minutes each way? I've a strong suspicion i'll like it, and end up doing my DAS soon enough, but on the off chance i'm wrong i dont want to risk it.
Im quite a big guy and a YBR125 would do 65mph on the flat with me on it flat out. Unfortunately that is just the right speed for lorry leapfrog on the dual carriageway......
Look at a Honda Varadero XL125 big bike and 14.6bhp. Most common 125 4 strokes have 9-12bhp (YBR125 is 10) so may struggle a little with you. However im 6'3" + 18 Stone and commuted 7 miles each way from Zone 3 to central london each day on the YBR for a little over 6 months before passing my DAS and it coped with me fine.......
Look at a Honda Varadero XL125 big bike and 14.6bhp. Most common 125 4 strokes have 9-12bhp (YBR125 is 10) so may struggle a little with you. However im 6'3" + 18 Stone and commuted 7 miles each way from Zone 3 to central london each day on the YBR for a little over 6 months before passing my DAS and it coped with me fine.......
Edited by edeath on Monday 10th September 14:56
CBR JGWRR said:
Mr2Mike said:
CBR JGWRR said:
The very fastest 125s top out at 80-90 when learner legal,
Sorry but that is simply wishful thinking. Nothing with 14.6bhp is going to top out at a genuine 80-90mph unless it's down the side of a mountain.I had to restrict the RS 125 to 80, although that had been partially derestricted before.
80 is certainly possible, at least 1 four stroke has achieved that under test conditions in a recent MCN. Under perfect conditions though...
Edited by bimsb6 on Monday 10th September 15:03
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