Chimera Starter Motor removal
Discussion
So my TVR has been hiding in the garage for 18 months (I know don't hate, work abroad and circumstances forced the issue ) and bypassing any hope of recharging, I have bought a new battery.
I took sparks out and injected some Redex as per the Bible after long lay ups. However on trying to turn it over all I get from the starter motor is a faint clunk, no louder than tapping a finger on the desk. Once the key is turned back I can hear a chatter noise to what sounds like the solenoid disengaging. The Fuel pump primes. Lights dim when key is turned, relays sound like they are working. Tried banging the unit in case of a jam and bumping under dashboard on the passenger side for the Immobiliser trick.
So it would seem that it's the motor but after searching the forums and not finding any evidence my actual question is has anyone managed to remove their starter motor at home.?
Lots of people just say ` they changed it ' and it fired up without saying if they or someone else did it. To me it looks like you can access the hex lower bolt from below but the solenoid seems to block any path to the top one from underneath and the manifold is in the way from the top.
Can it be done ? Any thoughts or suggestions.
I took sparks out and injected some Redex as per the Bible after long lay ups. However on trying to turn it over all I get from the starter motor is a faint clunk, no louder than tapping a finger on the desk. Once the key is turned back I can hear a chatter noise to what sounds like the solenoid disengaging. The Fuel pump primes. Lights dim when key is turned, relays sound like they are working. Tried banging the unit in case of a jam and bumping under dashboard on the passenger side for the Immobiliser trick.
So it would seem that it's the motor but after searching the forums and not finding any evidence my actual question is has anyone managed to remove their starter motor at home.?
Lots of people just say ` they changed it ' and it fired up without saying if they or someone else did it. To me it looks like you can access the hex lower bolt from below but the solenoid seems to block any path to the top one from underneath and the manifold is in the way from the top.
Can it be done ? Any thoughts or suggestions.
Can it be done?
Yes of course it can.
Disconnect the battery first, & remove the wires from the starter & solenoid.
You just need an allen bit on an extension & go in from just above the starter.
Feel the allen bit but into the cap head bolt by hand, then connect your ratchet to undo the top bolt.
With the top bolt removed you can tackle the easier bottom bolt while supporting the weight of the starter in your hand.
Simples.
Yes of course it can.
Disconnect the battery first, & remove the wires from the starter & solenoid.
You just need an allen bit on an extension & go in from just above the starter.
Feel the allen bit but into the cap head bolt by hand, then connect your ratchet to undo the top bolt.
With the top bolt removed you can tackle the easier bottom bolt while supporting the weight of the starter in your hand.
Simples.
Ok Thanks, the bible says it can but a quick obeservation said it might be awkward and didn't want to begin with some proper experience from here.
As for the other posts, sparks are not in and yes was planning to turn it over before replacing them to get some oil around before starting.
But I can't get that done until the starter is looked at , if it works on the bench it's one down in the hunt.
So at the moment I am like a kid with no toys on Christmas morning
As for the other posts, sparks are not in and yes was planning to turn it over before replacing them to get some oil around before starting.
But I can't get that done until the starter is looked at , if it works on the bench it's one down in the hunt.
So at the moment I am like a kid with no toys on Christmas morning
Thanks guys and in response : Battery was brand new and is fully charged and is 640 ccA.
Took the starter motor out anyway was not too hard after all tested it on the bench and it was fine. Cleaned it, and all the terminals and wrapped in heat resistant fibre glass so at least I know that part would be good and added a running fix too. Turned the engine over with a socket on the lower pulley while it was out and no problems there.
Put Starter motor back in and nothing same as before.
So now testing relays , checking fuses. All the relays in the board are differently numbered from the ones quoted in the Bible so a PO must have replaced them at some point. The Ignition relay I have is R6FO ? Doing a test later on it to see if its working.
Standard process of elimination I suppose.
Took the starter motor out anyway was not too hard after all tested it on the bench and it was fine. Cleaned it, and all the terminals and wrapped in heat resistant fibre glass so at least I know that part would be good and added a running fix too. Turned the engine over with a socket on the lower pulley while it was out and no problems there.
Put Starter motor back in and nothing same as before.
So now testing relays , checking fuses. All the relays in the board are differently numbered from the ones quoted in the Bible so a PO must have replaced them at some point. The Ignition relay I have is R6FO ? Doing a test later on it to see if its working.
Standard process of elimination I suppose.
Chrimsontide said:
Thanks guys and in response : Battery was brand new and is fully charged and is 640 ccA.
Took the starter motor out anyway was not too hard after all tested it on the bench and it was fine. Cleaned it, and all the terminals and wrapped in heat resistant fibre glass so at least I know that part would be good and added a running fix too. Turned the engine over with a socket on the lower pulley while it was out and no problems there.
Put Starter motor back in and nothing same as before.
So now testing relays , checking fuses. All the relays in the board are differently numbered from the ones quoted in the Bible so a PO must have replaced them at some point. The Ignition relay I have is R6FO ? Doing a test later on it to see if its working.
Standard process of elimination I suppose.
You don't seem to have eliminated the simplest thing to check - that you haven't bought a duff battery. The symptoms you describe are precisely those of a failing battery. Get it on some meaty jump leads or a big boost pack. Took the starter motor out anyway was not too hard after all tested it on the bench and it was fine. Cleaned it, and all the terminals and wrapped in heat resistant fibre glass so at least I know that part would be good and added a running fix too. Turned the engine over with a socket on the lower pulley while it was out and no problems there.
Put Starter motor back in and nothing same as before.
So now testing relays , checking fuses. All the relays in the board are differently numbered from the ones quoted in the Bible so a PO must have replaced them at some point. The Ignition relay I have is R6FO ? Doing a test later on it to see if its working.
Standard process of elimination I suppose.
We recently had a dead battery delivered from the local factors so it can happen.
Did you try and fire the starter using a test wire on the solenoid after fitting it back onto the engine. If you do it will show if the fault is in the heavy duty side of things or in the ignition/immobiliser/relay/fuse etc.
Steve
Did you try and fire the starter using a test wire on the solenoid after fitting it back onto the engine. If you do it will show if the fault is in the heavy duty side of things or in the ignition/immobiliser/relay/fuse etc.
Steve
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